Trump's Iran "Deal"

[VladtheDestroyer]

Remember when Trump pledged not to start any foreign wars? Well, six months in and Iran is just going soooo well isn't it?

Disaster of Trump’s war in Iran laid bare six months on

The US president has been sucked into a quagmire of his own making, with both sides refusing to budge on red lines in negotiations. James C. Reynolds looks at the numbers behind a conflict that may prove to be Trump’s greatest miscalculation

www.independent.co.uk

Why are you so Western-centric? Don't you care about the people in Iran?

 

[Arthur Brain]

Why are you so Western-centric? Don't you care about the people in Iran?

What makes you assume that I don't care about the people in Iran? It's another reason I condemn Trump's stupid war. Not only would there have been no deaths and injuries among America's military, there wouldn't have been thousands of casualties in Iran including 175 children killed by an American tomahawk missile for starters. Do you care about that?

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

What makes you assume that I don't care about the people in Iran?

Because the only time you ever find it worth mentioning them is when it's convenient to use their deaths to support your Western-centric political views.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Because the only time you ever find it worth mentioning them is when it's convenient to use their deaths to support your Western-centric political views.

Rather, you made an arrogant assumption and were called on it. That isn't my bad, it's yours so answer my question, do you care about Iranian deaths through this stupid war Trump started?

 

[annabenedetti]

Rather, you made an arrogant assumption and were called on it. That isn't my bad, it's yours so answer my question, do you care about Iranian deaths through this stupid war Trump started?

The irony in the right's drumbeat for all things Western Civilization and then you get dinged for being Western-centric.



On the serious note, the Iran War is a disaster that made everything worse. Everything Trump touches dies.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

That isn't my bad,

It's not your bad for trying to exploit the deaths of Iranians in a selfish attempt to support your Western-centric political views?

do you care about Iranian deaths through this stupid war Trump started?

Yes, Arthur. Your childish, loaded question only proves my point.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

The irony in the right's drumbeat for all things Western Civilization

You mean things like abortion and "trans-kids"?

 

[Arthur Brain]

It's not your bad for trying to exploit the deaths of Iranians in a selfish attempt to support your Western-centric political views?

Hmm, so I start a thread that's clearly against Trump's war with Iran, and five pages in you jump to the asinine and illogical conclusion that somehow that equates to exploiting deaths of Iranians, so you can use this beloved little "Western-centric" catchphrase of yours?! Nah, it's your bad entirely Vlad. I'm completely against the war and for all the needless loss of life it's caused, not just Western lives.

Yes, Arthur. Your childish, loaded question only proves my point.

The childishness is all yours Vlad. If you're gonna employ a catchphrase you're suddenly fond of, then try one that makes sense.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Hmm, so I start a thread that's clearly against Trump's war with Iran, and five pages in you jump to the asinine and illogical conclusion that somehow that equates to exploiting deaths of Iranians, so you can use this beloved little "Western-centric" catchphrase of yours?! Nah, it's your bad entirely Vlad. I'm completely against the war and for all the needless loss of life it's caused, not just Western lives.




The childishness is all yours Vlad. If you're gonna employ a catchphrase you're suddenly fond of, then try one that makes sense.

Seems I struck a nerve.

Just don't do it again, Arthur. Otherwise you will look like even more of a donkey.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Seems I struck a nerve.

Just don't do it again, Arthur. Otherwise will you look like even more of a donkey.

Not at all, because I know it was just a juvenile soundbite that you could never support with anything and you haven't.

I'd advise you not to repeat it for exactly the same reason but make yourself look like a donkey if ya want.

 

[Nick M]

Iran is counting on idiot Democrat voters. That tells you all you need to know about the Demoncrat party. And as always, my rebuke of those hell bound perverts is not an endorsement of members of the other party.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Iran is counting on idiot Democrat voters. That tells you all you need to know about the Demoncrat party. And as always, my rebuke of those hell bound perverts is not an endorsement of members of the other party.

I might have posted this once before, but I know the man who was being awarded a large sum of money by Khomenei (or whatever his stupid name was) when this pic was taken.



After the police in Iran beat a young women to death for not covering her hair, he told me that the fascist regime in Iran was always hoping for a democrat president in the US and that the people who wanted freedom thought that Trump would help them if he got elected again. That was sometime back around 2022 IIRC.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

More about the guy in the photo

Outrage as Iranian wrestler 'forced' to lose match

Iranian Alireza Karmi-Machiani is suspected to have thrown the bout to avoid fighting an Israeli in the next round.

www.bbc.com

He's a good dude. Iran seems to always make a point of executing a few wrestlers whenever there is a protest, because everyone knows they hate their government. They do that to quash the hopes of people there. It's pretty sad:

Exclusive | Iranian regime executing elite wrestlers who back protestors as thousands take to streets

Iran targeting athletes for imprisonment, torture and execution during national uprising against regime

nypost.com

From the article:

In 2020, Donald Trump, a wrestling fan, reached out to the Iranian regime to pardon wrestler Navid Afkari, but he was then executed in September of that year.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Now in the seventh month and with no end in sight. Hardly surprising that many Americans are getting increasingly fed up and some see through Trump's blatant contradictions.

𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐝𝐞𝐜𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐩𝐨𝐩𝐮𝐥𝐚𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐬𝐚𝐠𝐠𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥 𝐧𝐮𝐦𝐛𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐛𝐞 𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐨𝐦𝐢𝐜 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐪𝐮𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐝𝐞𝐜𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐭𝐨 𝐰𝐚𝐠𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧—𝐚 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐟𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐧𝐨𝐰 𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐝 𝐢𝐭𝐬 𝐬𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐭𝐡 𝐦𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐡, 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐧𝐨 𝐞𝐧𝐝 𝐢𝐧 𝐬𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐭. 𝐄𝐯𝐞𝐧 𝐢𝐧 𝐫𝐮𝐫𝐚𝐥 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚, 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐬𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐫𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐢𝐧 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐢𝐨𝐮𝐬 𝐞𝐥𝐞𝐜𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧𝐬, 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐟𝐫𝐮𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐝𝐢𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐥 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐭𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐳𝐞𝐫 𝐜𝐨𝐬𝐭𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐮𝐥𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐫’𝐬 𝐝𝐢𝐬𝐫𝐮𝐩𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧 𝐨𝐟 𝐠𝐥𝐨𝐛𝐚𝐥 𝐞𝐧𝐞𝐫𝐠𝐲 𝐬𝐮𝐩𝐩𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐬. 𝐌𝐨𝐫𝐞𝐨𝐯𝐞𝐫, 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐠𝐮𝐦𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐰𝐢𝐥𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐠𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧 𝐟𝐫𝐨𝐦 𝐨𝐛𝐭𝐚𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐞𝐚𝐩𝐨𝐧𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐬 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐉𝐮𝐧𝐞 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟓 𝐜𝐥𝐚𝐢𝐦 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧’𝐬 𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐛𝐞𝐞𝐧 “𝐨𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐝.”

𝐎𝐧𝐞 𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐢𝐦𝐚𝐭𝐞 𝐬𝐮𝐠𝐠𝐞𝐬𝐭𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐰𝐚𝐫 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐜𝐨𝐬𝐭 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧 𝐟𝐚𝐦𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐞𝐬 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 $𝟏,𝟎𝟎𝟎 𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐢𝐭 𝐛𝐞𝐠𝐚𝐧, 𝐚 𝐟𝐢𝐠𝐮𝐫𝐞 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐜𝐡 𝐭𝐚𝐤𝐞𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐭𝐨 𝐚𝐜𝐜𝐨𝐮𝐧𝐭 𝐡𝐢𝐠𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐠𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞, 𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐬𝐞𝐡𝐨𝐥𝐝 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐞𝐧𝐬𝐞𝐬, 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐠𝐫𝐨𝐜𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐞𝐬. 𝐎𝐧 𝐚𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐚𝐠𝐞, 𝐠𝐚𝐬 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐞𝐧 𝐛𝐲 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐚 𝐝𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐚𝐫 𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐠𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐧 𝐬𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐅𝐞𝐛𝐫𝐮𝐚𝐫𝐲 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟔, 𝐰𝐡𝐢𝐥𝐞 𝐝𝐢𝐞𝐬𝐞𝐥 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐢𝐧𝐜𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐛𝐲 𝐦𝐨𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 $𝟐 𝐩𝐞𝐫 𝐠𝐚𝐥𝐥𝐨𝐧.

𝐑𝐞𝐩𝐮𝐛𝐥𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐚𝐥𝐬𝐨 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐠𝐠𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐰𝐢𝐭𝐡 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩’𝐬 𝐚𝐩𝐩𝐚𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐢𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐟𝐟𝐞𝐫𝐞𝐧𝐜𝐞 𝐭𝐨 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫𝐲𝐝𝐚𝐲 𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐮𝐠𝐠𝐥𝐞𝐬 𝐨𝐟 𝐯𝐨𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐬 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐚𝐫𝐞 𝐭𝐫𝐲𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐨 𝐦𝐚𝐤𝐞 𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐦𝐞𝐞𝐭. 𝐇𝐞 𝐡𝐚𝐬 𝐦𝐨𝐜𝐤𝐞𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐟𝐟𝐨𝐫𝐝𝐚𝐛𝐢𝐥𝐢𝐭𝐲 𝐜𝐫𝐢𝐬𝐢𝐬 𝐚𝐧𝐝 𝐟𝐥𝐚𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐜𝐨𝐧𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐝𝐢𝐜𝐭𝐞𝐝 𝐡𝐢𝐬 𝐯𝐢𝐜𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐢𝐝𝐞𝐧𝐭, 𝐉𝐃 𝐕𝐚𝐧𝐜𝐞, 𝐰𝐡𝐨 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐬𝐚𝐢𝐝 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝐫𝐞𝐝𝐮𝐜𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐠𝐚𝐬𝐨𝐥𝐢𝐧𝐞 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐞𝐬—𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐡𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐧 𝐞𝐧𝐝𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧’𝐬 𝐧𝐮𝐜𝐥𝐞𝐚𝐫 𝐩𝐫𝐨𝐠𝐫𝐚𝐦—𝐰𝐚𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐚𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐧𝐢𝐬𝐭𝐫𝐚𝐭𝐢𝐨𝐧’𝐬 𝐭𝐨𝐩 𝐩𝐫𝐢𝐨𝐫𝐢𝐭𝐲. 𝐀𝐥𝐭𝐡𝐨𝐮𝐠𝐡 𝐫𝐞𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐩𝐨𝐥𝐥𝐬 𝐡𝐚𝐯𝐞 𝐬𝐡𝐨𝐰𝐧 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 𝟔𝟑 𝐩𝐞𝐫𝐜𝐞𝐧𝐭 𝐨𝐟 𝐀𝐦𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐜𝐚𝐧𝐬 𝐨𝐩𝐩𝐨𝐬𝐞 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐈𝐫𝐚𝐧 𝐰𝐚𝐫, 𝐨𝐧 𝐒𝐞𝐩𝐭𝐞𝐦𝐛𝐞𝐫 𝟏𝟎, 𝟐𝟎𝟐𝟔, 𝐓𝐫𝐮𝐦𝐩 𝐞𝐱𝐩𝐫𝐞𝐬𝐬𝐞𝐝 𝐧𝐨 𝐫𝐞𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐭𝐬 𝐟𝐨𝐫 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐰𝐚𝐫, 𝐚𝐝𝐦𝐢𝐭𝐭𝐢𝐧𝐠 𝐭𝐡𝐚𝐭 “𝐢𝐟 𝐈 𝐡𝐚𝐝 𝐭𝐨 𝐝𝐨 𝐢𝐭 𝐚𝐠𝐚𝐢𝐧, 𝐈 𝐰𝐨𝐮𝐥𝐝 𝐝𝐨 𝐞𝐱𝐚𝐜𝐭𝐥𝐲 𝐚𝐬 𝐈 𝐝𝐢𝐝.”

America’s Affordability Crisis: Will Trump’s Iran War Cost Him the 2026 Midterms?

Midterm elections in the United States are usually a referendum on whichever party holds the White House. Going into this year’s midterms on November 3, 2026, anxieties are high among Republicans as President Donald Trump’s approval ratings fall, giving Democrats hope that they can take back the...

arabcenterdc.org

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

Trump's declining popularity..

Is a small price to pay.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Is a small price to pay.

For what? A needless and illegal war that's entered its seventh month?

If only the prices for gas and groceries were small instead of through the roof. Which doubtless explains why around two thirds of Americans aren't happy with it.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

For what? A needless and illegal war that's entered its seventh month?

If only the prices for gas and groceries were small instead of through the roof. Which doubtless explains why around two thirds of Americans aren't happy with it.

Well again, your Western Centrism is on full display here. You view things from the lens of the predominantly white and English-speaking anglosphere. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that, but "needless" is in the eye of the beholder.

 

[Arthur Brain]

Well again, your Western Centrism is on full display here. You view things from the lens of the predominantly white and English-speaking anglosphere. Not that there's necessarily anything wrong with that, but "needless" is in the eye of the beholder.

That silly soundbite didn't work the first time you used it and it sure ain't working now.

 

[VladtheDestroyer]

That silly soundbite didn't work the first time you used it and it sure ain't working now.

Well I can't force you not to think of the situation in Iran solely in terms of Trump's popularity or oil prices in the US. But it does seem a bit ironic to me that that is what you are doing. Apparently, you don't seem to think so.