LeBron James needs to just shut up and dribble

I can only speak for myself, but I've long ago tired of actors, pretend people, musicians, sports figures, whatever, speaking to a host of matters they often have no real grasp of, rather simply have a microphone in the media to emote their biases from behind, or are paid to dish guile. Everybody's allowed an opinion, sure, but I find it laughable that, just because somebody is of some entertainment fame, that they should be any sort of general life role model people should take seriously. As a matter of fact, the opinions of many expert in their fields are the last you're likely to hear from, in the pop culture media, or hear from the mentally and spiritually sound, honest common man and woman, that may have a truly informed opinion. Have you noticed the celebrity talking heads in commercials? Is some compensated actor or sports figure somebody you should be taking financial or health advice from, much less any moral advice, when the only time you'll hear the exalted name of Jesus Christ is in the form of a curse? I don't give a whit about what any of these carnal creeps have to say, think they're merely an insult to one's intelligence, trying to use their fame or notoriety as some bully pulpit. I think not. Yes, probably do a lot of us a favor, just shutup and dribble.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
 
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ok doser

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A costumed entertainer who gets paid millions to play a child's game, complaining about the unfairness of the society in which he lives.
 

eider

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I can only speak for myself, but I've long ago tired of actors, pretend people, musicians, sports figures, whatever, speaking to a host of matters they often have no real grasp of, rather simply have a microphone in the media to emote their biases from behind, or are paid to dish guile. Everybody's allowed an opinion, sure, but I find it laughable that, just because somebody is of some entertainment fame, that they should be any sort of general life role model people should take seriously. As a matter of fact, the opinions of many expert in their fields are the last you're likely to hear form, in the pop culture media, or hear from the mentally and spiritually sound, honest common man and woman, that may have a truly informed opinion. Have you noticed the celebrity talking heads in commercials? Is some compensated actor or sports figure somebody you should be taking financial or health advice from, much less any moral advice, when the only time you'll hear the exalted name of Jesus Christ is in the form of a curse? I don't give a whit about what any of these carnal creeps have to say, think they're merely an insult to one's intelligence, trying to use their fame or notoriety as some bully pulpit. I think not. Yes, probably do a lot of us a favor, just shutup and dribble.

Yes.
I have often wondered how a good sports star, actor or whoever might know best about toothpaste, or politics blah blah.
But the majority of folks follow these people, will wear torn clothes if their 'star' does, or want the same watch or trainers.
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Folks follow fashions.....
But if you can follow your own feelings, as you surely can, then you have freedom of thought and choice. So many actually don't.
 
Yes.
I have often wondered how a good sports star, actor or whoever might know best about toothpaste, or politics blah blah.
But the majority of folks follow these people, will wear torn clothes if their 'star' does, or want the same watch or trainers.
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Folks follow fashions.....
But if you can follow your own feelings, as you surely can, then you have freedom of thought and choice. So many actually don't.

True, and that this is the approach of advertising means their primary demographic is the dumbed-down: not the healthiest canary in the coal mine as to the state of our civilization. (Of course, mankind idiotically repeats his worst history, not as if anything new is afoot.) But they also have what are purportedly normal people in a lot of these commercials that are adults, acting like dumb little children, gushing over boring products nobody goes around talking about with such enthusiasm and incessant superlatives, as if they worship their toilet paper or cellphone. It's all quite idiotic, manipulation, guile, nothing even grownup about it. Some ads there's no way in hades I'll ever buy, even if they were the last supplier on earth, for being so dumb, manipulative and deceptive, insulting thinking peoples' intelligence so as to be offensive, and I do feel sorry for those not insulted by such lame attempts at brainwashing, such cheap devices. Again, yes, it's a shame there must be some large audience that it would seem somehow got lobotomized, somewhere along the line.

Commercial, live TV programs are why God gave us a Mute button, if there's some reason you can't, better still, time shift the program and just zoom past in all, in a blur. There's even something quite appealing in those frantic lips and hands, gesticulating like fan blades, and not hearing a word they say. It's like a visual of a drug-cellphone-drug lawsuit-cable-vote for me-toilet paper-wrinkle cream ad, all in one, and time traveling so fast you're not even sure the brand or the politician.That's also called tender mercies, if you ask me, because the program is often bad enough. LOL!
 
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The Berean

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I can only speak for myself, but I've long ago tired of actors, pretend people, musicians, sports figures, whatever, speaking to a host of matters they often have no real grasp of, rather simply have a microphone in the media to emote their biases from behind, or are paid to dish guile. Everybody's allowed an opinion, sure, but I find it laughable that, just because somebody is of some entertainment fame, that they should be any sort of general life role model people should take seriously. As a matter of fact, the opinions of many expert in their fields are the last you're likely to hear from, in the pop culture media, or hear from the mentally and spiritually sound, honest common man and woman, that may have a truly informed opinion. Have you noticed the celebrity talking heads in commercials? Is some compensated actor or sports figure somebody you should be taking financial or health advice from, much less any moral advice, when the only time you'll hear the exalted name of Jesus Christ is in the form of a curse? I don't give a whit about what any of these carnal creeps have to say, think they're merely an insult to one's intelligence, trying to use their fame or notoriety as some bully pulpit. I think not. Yes, probably do a lot of us a favor, just shutup and dribble.

James 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.

Ok, so which is it, though? Does James have the right to speak his mind or not? You certainly can criticize him comments or shed light as to how his comments are dumb,foolish, irrational, or illogical. And we should do that. We can also ignore his comment altogether. But to say someone that we disagree with should be stopped from even speaking his mind is simply un-American IMO. Television personality Mike Rowe has long been a supporter of the trades as an alternate path to college for people who are good at working with their hands (something I agree with). He even set up scholarships for people who want to attend a trade school. Should we just tell him to shut up and act?
 

eider

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True, and that this is the approach of advertising means their primary demographic is the dumbed-down: not the healthiest canary in the coal mine as to the state of our civilization. (Of course, mankind idiotically repeats his worst history, not as if anything new is afoot.) But they also have what are purportedly normal people in a lot of these commercials that are adults, acting like dumb little children, gushing over boring products nobody goes around talking about with such enthusiasm and incessant superlatives, as if they worship their toilet paper or cellphone. It's all quite idiotic, manipulation, guile, nothing even grownup about it. Some ads there's no way in hades I'll ever buy, even if they were the last supplier on earth, for being so dumb, manipulative and deceptive, insulting thinking peoples' intelligence so as to be offensive, and I do feel sorry for those not insulted by such lame attempts at brainwashing, such cheap devices. Again, yes, it's a shame there must be some large audience that it would seem somehow got lobotomized, somewhere along the line.

Commercial, live TV programs are why God gave us a Mute button, if there's some reason you can't, better still, time shift the program and just zoom past in all, in a blur. There's even something quite appealing in those frantic lips and hands, gesticulating like fan blades, and not hearing a word they say. It's like a visual of a drug-cellphone-drug lawsuit-cable-vote for me-toilet paper-wrinkle cream ad, all in one, and time traveling so fast you're not even sure the brand or the politician.That's also called tender mercies, if you ask me, because the program is often bad enough. LOL!

You're not wrong.
And it's not just advertising, or politics, or some vast motor corporation deceiving the World over its engines emissions, or the leaders who know about these things but camourflage them for convenience. It's not even just the deceit, greed, corruption and warmongering......... it's the sad fact that we are the only species that is capable of wickedness, evil if you like.

A sparrow hawk snatching a robin off a branch is not evil, it's just doing what it does. But mankind. ........

I was angry for most of my life, and then discovered myself to be letting all this, or most of it, just float underneath or overhead. It's the best that I can do with all, I'm afraid. :)
 

Arthur Brain

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You're not wrong.
And it's not just advertising, or politics, or some vast motor corporation deceiving the World over its engines emissions, or the leaders who know about these things but camourflage them for convenience. It's not even just the deceit, greed, corruption and warmongering......... it's the sad fact that we are the only species that is capable of wickedness, evil if you like.

A sparrow hawk snatching a robin off a branch is not evil, it's just doing what it does. But mankind. ........

I was angry for most of my life, and then discovered myself to be letting all this, or most of it, just float underneath or overhead. It's the best that I can do with all, I'm afraid. :)

You hardly come over as an angry man nowadays sir.

:e4e:
 

The Barbarian

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I don't care for LeBron James, but I've got to admit that he's a lot smarter than Laura Ingraham. He might have laid his own "shut up and..." on her, except she can't do anything useful. Whining is pretty much all she has.

But she does pretty well off people who like to hear her whine. James does a whole lot better on people who like to see him play ball, which probably irritates her. Probably a lot, given who he is.

But LeBron James is handing out some of that good fortune to endow a school for kids who really need a great school.


It's not his school; he gave it to the school district. Any kid in the district can enroll in it.
So he gets some respect.


Laura pretty much is occupied perfecting her salute:
 

ok doser

lifeguard at the cement pond
I don't care for LeBron James, but I've got to admit that he's a lot smarter than Laura Ingraham. He might have laid his own "shut up and..." on her, except she can't do anything useful. Whining is pretty much all she has.

But she does pretty well off people who like to hear her whine. James does a whole lot better on people who like to see him play ball, which probably irritates her. Probably a lot, given who he is.

But LeBron James is handing out some of that good fortune to endow a school for kids who really need a great school.


It's not his school; he gave it to the school district. Any kid in the district can enroll in it.
So he gets some respect.


Laura pretty much is occupied perfecting her salute:

Who is Laura Ingraham and why is barbie whining about her?
 

eider

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You hardly come over as an angry man nowadays sir.

:e4e:

Nowadays......... yes.... true.

Back in the day I trained hundreds of retail security and commercial guards, door supervisors, store detectives and retail investigators, mostly for contract work. Week by week I heard about so many good operatives being mistreated, dumped, put in danger, scapegoated, even refused staff cafe rates for a dinner. A significant % of my training was all about how to survive in physical and legal safety in their various jobs..... everybody applauded them when they had risked themselves, and forgot about them the next moment when they needed support.

Me? Angry? I was very much in tension! :) But after I retired I slowly let go ..... but even now I guess I'm heated when discussing physical and legal safety issues.
 
I was angry for most of my life, and then discovered myself to be letting all this, or most of it, just float underneath or overhead. It's the best that I can do with all, I'm afraid. :)

Really. Growing up is hanging up useless anger. Besides, judgement and vengeance are the Lord's. In the Bible, "the world" often refers to the corrupt world system, of carnal man and devil in league, and an incessant struggle over things temporal. To abide in anger is to let something evil have power over you, when we can, rather, choose to seek things eternal, seek the peace of God in our hearts, and seek a sound mind, not allowing the world's confusion and emotions to rule. I couldn't stand living in some political frenzy in the first place, as if the world is really an answer to anything, as if idiot man is going to repeal his idiot history, instead of repeating it, as if any of this nonsense has a scintilla of the eternal in it, nor as if our times are in anybody's hands but God's, at least those who trust in Him. Yes, anger is for the unstable and fools, and, when we're approached by anger, that's a good time to change the channel and turn it over to the Lord, in my experience, if it's anything, whatsoever, you're not personally responsible for.

I've seen the Lord work out many things, too, I didn't know how to, His wonders to behold! To me, it's sort of like, alright, Obama won? Well, there's four more years to blissfully ignore the societal degradation, change the channel, find something more interesting and useful to do, while that creep is lighting up the White House rainbow: bottom line, that's his red wagon. I never listened to him, at all, and don't listen to anybody like him.

So many people neither seem to realize they get one vote, and then their role in it all is toast, if they wrote letters to the editor every, single day and burned an ulcer, they'd not have made a scintilla difference. Maybe their hobby is reading form letters? The powers that be are going to do what they are going to do, regardless what you think to the contrary. Can't speak for anybody else, but I don't charge windmills, either. You can get some pretty good humor out of it all, though. Not everything going on around us is completely in vain.
 

eider

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Really. Growing up is hanging up useless anger. Besides, judgement and vengeance are the Lord's. In the Bible, "the world" often refers to the corrupt world system, of carnal man and devil in league, and an incessant struggle over things temporal. To abide in anger is to let something evil have power over you, when we can, rather, choose to seek things eternal, seek the peace of God in our hearts, and seek a sound mind, not allowing the world's confusion and emotions to rule. I couldn't stand living in some political frenzy in the first place, as if the world is really an answer to anything, as if idiot man is going to repeal his idiot history, instead of repeating it, as if any of this nonsense has a scintilla of the eternal in it, nor as if our times are in anybody's hands but God's, at least those who trust in Him. Yes, anger is for the unstable and fools, and, when we're approached by anger, that's a good time to change the channel and turn it over to the Lord, in my experience, if it's anything, whatsoever, you're not personally responsible for.

I've seen the Lord work out many things, too, I didn't know how to, His wonders to behold! To me, it's sort of like, alright, Obama won? Well, there's four more years to blissfully ignore the societal degradation, change the channel, find something more interesting and useful to do, while that creep is lighting up the White House rainbow: bottom line, that's his red wagon. I never listened to him, at all, and don't listen to anybody like him.

So many people neither seem to realize they get one vote, and then their role in it all is toast, if they wrote letters to the editor every, single day and burned an ulcer, they'd not have made a scintilla difference. Maybe their hobby is reading form letters? The powers that be are going to do what they are going to do, regardless what you think to the contrary. Can't speak for anybody else, but I don't charge windmills, either. You can get some pretty good humor out of it all, though. Not everything going on around us is completely in vain.

Fair enough.
i noticed your point about President Obama lighting up a White House rainbow. Of course, President Trump has held up the rainbow flag, had selected gays for offices and seems to support the LGBT communities as well. Maybe you won't get away from such initiatives now?
 
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