U.S. Christian Population in Freefall

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The Barbarian said:
The radicalizatino of evangelicals is having an effect. When Jerry Falwell Jr. endorses Trump as God's chosen, non-Christians draw conclusions.
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9/11 was the worst thing that could have happened for religion at large. Young adults grew up after the tragedy seeing radical religious fundamentalism for the hate mongering, violent, divisiveness it prides itself upon....and they're not having it. We're slowly growing out of its pathetic grasp (indoctrination) on society.
 
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U.S. Christian Population in Freefall
12% Drop in 10 Years – Pew

Christianity in the United States is declining at an unprecedented rate, a new study by the Pew Research Council revealed Thursday, and the percentage of Christians in the country has hit an all-time low.
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I'm not sure why this is a big deal. The LORD will always keep a remnant alive and sometimes even hidden. The drop in "Christianity" is not surprising. For generations many people simply attended churches even if they didn't believe the Gospel of Jesus Christ. They attended simply because it was the cultural thing to do. They were more churchians than Christians. Now people can "come out" as atheists or homosexuals or pagans, etc without any real consequences. But this is the time for the Church body to shine even brighter. As the world continues into wickedness, sin, and darkness, when the world at large has embraced every kind of degeneracy there will come a time when it will collapse on itself many will look for answers out of sheer desperation. And we need to be ready to walk with them and point then to Jesus Christ with love, truth, and Spirit led authority.
 
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quip said:
...Young adults grew up after the tragedy (of 911) seeing radical religious fundamentalism for the hate mongering, violent, divisiveness it prides itself upon....
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you seriously believe that young people are so foolish that they can't parse out which
religion was responsible for 911?
 
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ok doser said:
you seriously believe that young people are so foolish that they can't parse out which
religion was responsible for 911?
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Religion per se matters not. It's the wholesale rejection of religious dogma in general...the division, prejudice and hate it inherently fosters. 9/11 was religion's crowning achievement; homosexuality, a parochial, close second.
 
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quip suggested:
quip said:
...Young adults grew up after the tragedy (of 911) seeing radical religious fundamentalism for the hate mongering, violent, divisiveness it prides itself upon....
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doser spotted an error in quip's reasoning:
ok doser said:
you seriously believe that young people are so foolish that they can't parse out which
religion was responsible for 911?
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quip said:
Religion per se matters not.
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wait, didn't you just blame a decline in Christianity on the actions of radical mooslims who were acting in the name of islam?

seems to me that religion mattered quite a bit on 911 - one specific religion

quip said:
It's the wholesale rejection of religious dogma in general...
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so you're suggesting that the decline in Christianity is due to the actions of radical mooslims acting in the name of islam, causing americans, unable to differentiate between violent radical moosies and tie-wearing mormons, to reject all religion?

seems unlikely to me :idunno:

quip said:
the division, prejudice and hate it inherently fosters.
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division between good and evil, yes
prejudice against evil and those who perform evil acts, yes
hate of that which is evil, yes

quip said:
9/11 was religion's crowning achievement
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well, one religion

quip said:
homosexuality, a parochial, close second.
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homosexuality is a crowning achievement of religion? :freak:
 
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ok doser said:
religious dogma like turn the other cheek, thou shalt not kill, honor thy mother and father?
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This guy wrote an interesting essay about the decline of the West, more specifically Europe. He's not a Christian, he's a Stoicist, a former US Marine who speaks seven languages and who is now an attorney. He's comparing the "fighting ideology" of ISIS to the lack of one in Europe. His major point is that ISIS truly believes in their cause and their religion of Islam and that Europe has nothing of comparable belief.

No one wants to go toe to toe with ISIS, it seems. Everyone is hoping that they will dry up and blow away if we just “cut off their funding” or “provide more training” to the Iraqi military. People who say such things do not fully understand the power of a fanatical, militant ideology. The only way to inspire men to confront ISIS will be to equip them with an ideology of equal conviction and strength. But where will such an ideology be found? Western leaders and populations are apparently incapable of dying for their beliefs. People in the West find it bizarre that someone would die for his religious beliefs because they themselves are craven, effete cowards who have no convictions themselves.

Even nationalism in the West has evidently lost its luster. Who today can imagine battalions of young Spaniards, Frenchmen, Italians, or Germans willing to sacrifice themselves in combat for an ideal? Why do men fight to the death? For consumerism? For feminism? For the “rights of gender equality”? No. These are not the ideals that inspire militancy in men. And no one is being honest about this. Decades of enervating, demoralizing propaganda by the Western media has hollowed out and destroyed the fighting spirit of the European male.

It is still an open question whether the West will be able (or is even capable) of producing an ideological response that is sufficiently strong to go toe-to-toe with the ideology of ISIS. Time will tell. So far, the responses have been tepid at best. The West has offered absolutely nothing in the form of an ideological counterweight, perhaps because it has none. All it can offer is consumerism, which is en empty and useless concept when it comes to inspiring men to fight and die. Meanwhile, ISIS continues to exist, to expand, and to spread its militant ideology. In Western Europe, religion is laughed at, morals and behaviors are subject to little or no restraints, cathedrals and churches are like empty tombs, and birthrates continue to decline.

https://qcurtius.com/2016/03/20/the-need-for-a-fighting-ideology/
 
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