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ARE THE 12 APOSTLES IN or OUT of the Body of Christ ??

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  • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    Shalom.The point is simply that Jesus rose from the dead.Okay.Okay. I believe you have said now that the testator did die. This is according to your believe that Jesus is the testator I believe.What do you mean by this? Are you saying that you believe there was a time when the new covenant came into effect? I would like to know what you mean.
    Now you are being intentionally dense. I already told you that the new covenant is YET FUTURE.

    I'm trying to get you to understand that the VAST majority of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John CANNOT be new testament since MOST of those books contain content BEFORE the death of the testator. It's so simple and yet you seem to have trouble understanding.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    No. You are incorrect.
    No, you are incorrect.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    You have asked a good question here. I do not know the answer to your question. Are you implying that there is an answer you have that you think that I am not privy to?
    No, but my point is that in the body of Christ there are no tribes, there is no Israel. There isn't even male and female (Galatians 3:28)

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I did not know that you believe the new covenant is not for the body of Christ.
    Well now you know.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    You have some interesting beliefs here. I do not know how to answer you beyond answering what makes sense from what I know. I believe that your answers or response here is misguided.
    That is because you lack understanding. You believe myths.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    It was something that God entrusted Paul with. Others have ministered God's grace in the gospel as well. Are you talking about God's grace for Gentiles or are you talking about God's grace in the gospel for Jew and Gentile alike?
    Also, do you say Greek rather than Gentile where I have said Gentile here?
    The gospel of the grace of God was not revealed prior to Paul. God general "grace", like with Noah is NOT the same thing (even though many try to force it to mean the same thing).

    You need to understand God plans for Israel on the earth and His plans for the body of Christ in heavenly places

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I agree that this is Paul, but I am not sensational about it. I accept all of scripture, the entire Bible. I do not pick Paul first.
    I do not pick Paul first either, but when God chooses one man for a purpose... I respect God's choice.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    Okay. This is good to know.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I observe the Torah. There are 613 commands in Torah. I also observe the rest of the TaNaKh and Matthew through Revelation. Matthew through Revelation has 1050 commands. We are all to observe God's commands. I believe that I am to observe all of these commands that are for me, and I am of Israel, a Jew.I disagree. If you knew me you might ask why I keep God's Law.
    You think that you keep the law and yet you have admitted that you do not. You can fool yourself if you like, but this makes you a hypocrite.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    This was written by Paul a long time ago. But the Torah came before Paul.
    God revealed new things to Paul and you reject Gods MOST RECENT revelation.

    Originally posted by Jacob View Post
    I am not good with history yet, nor prophecy in relation to the nation of Israel. Meaning, I am Torah observant. And this is what we are supposed to observe. The new covenant is God's law written upon minds and hearts for the house of Israel and the house of Judah in Yeshua Messiah.
    That is a good start, believing Ephesians 2:8, 9. I hope you can understand more or understand what this means.


    You have proven that you do not want to understand, therefore I'm done with this dialog.
    All of my ancestors are human.
    Originally posted by Squeaky
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Originally posted by God's Truth
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.