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  • Freak
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    Re: Re: Truth matters to me...

    Originally posted by Tye Porter
    Good point.
    Thanks.


    Ergo, you agree with Pastor Enyart.
    Are you mentally slow? Of course I agree with Bob that there is a God. However, I do not agree with some of his statements that are not entirely true. He needs to note in the debate that some of arguements are not entirely true. Does truth matter to you?

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  • Freak
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    Originally posted by Flipper
    RogerB:

    Sorry your guru who repeatedly insists that he holds truth in highest regard is prone to incorrect generalizations and inaccuracies, which he presents as if they were indisputable facts, then fails to accurately back up his position.
    Exactly right.

    I guess the truth just isn't as important to Bob as he says it is.
    I hope this isn't true but I'm beginning to wonder....

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  • Freak
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    Truth matters to me...

    Originally posted by Tye Porter
    It is obvious that you are missing the point.
    It is obvious you're missing the point. Bob's statements, as I have noted, are not entirely true so I advised him not to use them. The facts speak for themselves.

    If 50.000001 (etc)% of any body of anything, including observations and peoples, is concurring, we call that a majority.

    The majority of the people in the world reject Christ and your point?


    Pastor Enyart, simply making this statement, is in fact, making a generalization,
    We know this and I have demonstrated that his statements are not enitrely true. I cautioned him in making generalizations without making note of the exceptions (in all fairness to the truth).

    Why you nit-pick this simple statement, why this is the one thing that has stuck in your craw, is unknown, but I assume there is something else to blame, rather than your misunderstanding of his statements.
    Perhaps truth matters to me. Does truth matter to you?
    Care to elaborate, Freak?
    I already have.

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  • NATEDOG
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    RogerB,
    Is that Frank the Rabbit?

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  • Flipper
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    I don't worship anything.

    Bob's already been shown to be inaccurate and has chosen not to post his sources when called on it. Strange behaviour for a truth seeker, don't you agree? He also has a way of presenting information he hasn't bothered to substantiate as if it were a given.

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  • RogerB
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    Originally posted by Flipper
    RogerB:

    Sorry your guru who repeatedly insists that he holds truth in highest regard is prone to incorrect generalizations and inaccuracies, which he presents as if they were indisputable facts, then fails to accurately back up his position.

    I guess the truth just isn't as important to Bob as he says it is. It certainly comes a poor second to rhetoric in his argument.

    I have really enjoyed this debate. It has been an interesting demonstration of Enyart's true mettle.
    My guru? Don't know him. Never listen to his program. Never been to his church. He does, however, speak the truth.

    You must be a -worshiper.

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  • Flipper
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    RogerB:

    Sorry your guru who repeatedly insists that he holds truth in highest regard is prone to incorrect generalizations and inaccuracies, which he presents as if they were indisputable facts, then fails to accurately back up his position.

    I guess the truth just isn't as important to Bob as he says it is. It certainly comes a poor second to rhetoric in his argument.

    I have really enjoyed this debate. It has been an interesting demonstration of Enyart's true mettle.

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  • RogerB
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    Originally posted by Freak
    Exactly.

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  • Freak
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    Originally posted by attention
    Shimei:

    Perhaps because the way in which Bob E handles and manipulates "truth" in this particular case, forms a pattern?
    Exactly.

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  • attention
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    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Mishaps were the theme of Bob's latest round...

    Originally posted by RogerB
    Notice that it doesn't say ALL WOMEN?
    Bob E makes a general statement, in which in his mind, this women are "conditioned" in going topless by tribesmen, but when the "good missionaires" comes by "readiliy admit their modesty".

    As Freak exposed, this is not observed behaviour (not the "conditioning" part nor the "readmitting modesty" part) but is just a made up story, that Bob E believes himself in, and therefore adapts and prortrays as "truths".

    The other and more obvious truth though, that going around clothed and conforming to all kind of other social rules, is a form of conditiong and pre-conditioning that happens to us since childhood, he is not willing to see and to explore it's origin.

    Notice that it doesn't say WE ALWAYS. I conceal my reproduction and waste expulsion. Do you? Does Bob? Does Skeptic? Does BillyBob? Zakath? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
    Have you ever noticed that the genital parts are the most sensitive parts of the human body, and that those parts for men are partly hanging out of the human body, and for women contain a body opening, which would cause, when not covered when going in the wilderness, serious damage?

    So, why do you think those body parts were the first things in human history, mankind covered and packed?

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  • attention
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    Shimei:

    Perhaps because the way in which Bob E handles and manipulates "truth" in this particular case, forms a pattern?

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  • Servo
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    Originally posted by Freak
    Bob, I think this is now a pride issue with you. As a follower of Christ you have an obligation to be humble and to recognize when you have made some mistakes. I know I have made many and have publically acknowledged them. Will you do the same?
    Wow Freak! You got him there!

    Bob made a general statement, not an absolute statement. Maybe you saw a few cases that were different than what Bob explained. So what? I think we can all understand what Bob meant if maybe some of us would quit "majoring in the minors".

    Why are you so obsessed with this one statement that Bob made? It seems rather silly.

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  • attention
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    Nudity and primitive human society

    Apart from the quarel between Bob E and Freak, who disagree on the issue of public nudity and modesty, the subject on hand is of course an interesting one.

    What is interesting of course is that our current perceptions of what is moral and modesty, have not always been there, but have been formed through our societal and cultural development.

    We know however that humans have come from the wilderniss, and were derived from ancestors who were primates, and that part of human history has developed in which humans were not dressed, and in which marriage as a stable bond between the two sexes also did not exist.

    Initially mankind lived like the animals, depending totally on the products of nature. We did not protect our skin against the influence of the climate, but instead we had still our skin covered with enough hair to keep the cold out.

    It is assumed that initially mankind had it's habitat in warmer climates, and only gradually inhabited the colder climate zones, in which covering the body with animal skins were necessary for survival. The genes that control the growing of hair on our body have changed in the course of time, and caused that most of our skin is no longer covered with thick hair (althoug all of our skin, except for the hand palms, feet and areas like lips, are still covered with small hairs) to protect against the climate. Current day humans only have hair on certain parts of the body, which are foremost the head, the genital zone and the armpit (and for males the bear and moustache).
    There are some people who happened to have those genes turned back on, and which have hair growing on other places as well, like all of the face (and not just the beard or moustache zone), which indicates that we have come from a species that used to have their total skin covered with hair.

    It is arguable that humans were dressing themselves, not out of 'modesty' or shame for their nudity, but for practical purposes, which were to cover and protect the vital body parts, and to protect for weather conditions, when the human skin became less hairy.
    The genital parts were presumably the first and foremost parts that were covered, and which supposedly was caused because those skin parts are the most sensitive, and could be hurt during the activities of hunting and gathering.

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  • Freak
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    Bob, I think this is now a pride issue with you. As a follower of Christ you have an obligation to be humble and to recognize when you have made some mistakes. I know I have made many and have publically acknowledged them. Will you do the same?

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  • Freak
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    For we must remember he built is latest case for God upon these ideas. What a shaky foundation he has....

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