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  • #46
    We need some pre-show entertainment! Jim, could you perhaps draw a sketch for us of, let's say, vs. 2 of Genesis chapter 1?
    "I do not believe that there is any purposeless evil in God's creation." ~James White

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    • #47
      Originally posted by The Berean
      Does Hilston has a strong background in biology? Or will he take a purely Biblical approach I wonder?
      I hope that Hilston sticks to the biomolecular machinery of the cell, and the implausibility of genetic mutations creating novel, complex, functionally guided structures. That's where the heaviest hits to Darwinian evolution lie.

      It's tragic, really. One would expect the farce of Darwinian evolution to have died in a "scientifically enlightened" culture such as ours. But on the nature of willful ignorance and the pride of men, see The Bible (e.g. John 3:19-21, Romans 1:18-32, etc.)

      I predict KO by Round 4. Knock 'em dead, Hilston!

      SS

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      • #48
        Originally posted by truthman
        We need some pre-show entertainment! Jim, could you perhaps draw a sketch for us of, let's say, vs. 2 of Genesis chapter 1?
        Race fans, now hear this. Hilston doesn't disappoint! He has heard the cry for pre-show entertainment and has delivered a masterpiece worthy of mention in any Bible liner notes.

        Unveiled today, for the first time in the history of TheologyOnline's extensive art collections is

        Genesis 1:2by James Hilston

        If this isn't a clue as to how literally Hilston takes the Bible, then nothing is.

        Enjoy!
        "I do not believe that there is any purposeless evil in God's creation." ~James White

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        • #49
          I'm looking forward to this debate:

          CREATIONISM / ID: Science or Science Fiction?

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Emo
            With Hilston's presuppositional stance, I think he will eat Stratnerd's lunch.
            If this is the debating line Hilston is going with, it will kill the debate. Either Stratnerd will not respond , or he will and the topic will veer off from the subject of science, and go in to Biblical inerrancy, or Biblical critisism. Both options don't bode well..

            If they do stay on topic though, Hilston has his work cut out for him. A simple definition of what science is (an explanatory utility), and what a scientific theory is, should quickly explain where evolution and ID/creationism fall. Even if you do believe in a young earth creation, it is hard to call it science. This line will at least keep it interesting, with lots of pseudo-scientific notions
            "What if the Hokie Pokie is really what it's all about?"

            "The best things in life aren't things"

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            • #51
              Originally posted by Skeptic
              I'm looking forward to this debate:

              CREATIONISM / ID: Science or Science Fiction?
              Its neither: its mythology.

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              • #52
                Originally posted by simply one
                Its neither: its mythology.
                Your problem is not technology. The problem is YOU. You lack the will to change...You treat this planet as you treat each other. - Klaatu

                What are you talking about? There is no such thing as the "Mafia"......it doesn't exist. Just a bunch of lies told to defame honest hardworking Italians like myself. - TomO

                I will do you, let's see, goofy, wacky, and to the left side of the bell curve
                . -Ktoyou

                I'm white. I'm not black. I can't convert to being black. It doesn't matter how much I want to become black. I could listen to rap and date fat white women all day; for all that, I'll still remain white.- Traditio

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                • #53
                  Having just recently "met" Mr. Hilston via email, I can honestly say that however he approaches the debate, the approach will be a thorough one indeed.

                  I, too, am looking forward to it.

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                  • #54
                    James Hilston has already lost the debate...

                    Ha! Just kiddin'! Hilston, I pray you do well!

                    -Bob Enyart
                    The Bob Enyart Live talk show airs at KGOV.com weekdays at 5 pm E.T. Also, same time, same station, check out Theology Thursday (.com) and on Fridays, Real Science Radio (.com) a.k.a. rsr.org. All shows are available 24/7 and you can call us at at 1-800-8Enyart.

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by Skeptic
                      I'm looking forward to this debate:

                      CREATIONISM / ID: Science or Science Fiction?
                      I don't see see why. You must already know that evolution is nothing more than an atheistic leap of faith!

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by kmoney
                        No, he is an atheist.
                        This comment was made in regards to Stratnerd, he states he is agnostic not atheist, just felt the need to clarify.

                        *This has been a public service announcement.*
                        Today's fortune cookie say: " The mighty oak was once a little nut that stood its ground."

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                        • #57
                          I wonder if this little guy is gonna come up?
                          As long as there is breath there is Hope...

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                          • #58
                            CREATIONISM / ID: Science or Science Fiction?
                            I'm still quite interested in why the debate, which originally was focused on the scientific validity of creationism, has now been flipped so that the focus is now on evolution.

                            I'm interested to see if hilston comes out swinging at the philosophy of science, or at evolution itself. He might take a dual approach. I'm also interested to see if Hilston will take the the "overwhelming with questions" tactic wherein so many questions are posted that it is unreasonable to answer each. Thus, an appearance of victory is achieved for lack of complete answers to all the questions. I'm hoping he will be above that. Nonetheless, this should be a fascinating debate as long as they don't get caught up in the philosophy of science, which I am not as interested in.
                            “There's nothing I like less than bad arguments for a view that I hold dear.” - Daniel Dennett

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                            • #59
                              Any word on when the Battle Talk and Battle Critique threads will be up?
                              Using no way as a way
                              Using no limitations as a limitation

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                              • #60
                                The official Battle Talk thread is now open.

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