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  • #31
    Time to seal my fate in mystery's bad books:

    1. A Christian cannot lose salvation.

    A believer may become an apostate or fall away, as Scripture sternly warns about. A Christian, a believer, is secure in Christ (unless they defiantly renounce and reject the person and work of Christ to the end). Score: 0/1

    2. The sacrifice of Jesus was not "limited", but for all men, for all time.

    TULIP is wrong. You are right. Score: 1/2

    3. God wants all men to be saved, not just a predetermined "elect".

    The elite elect limits God's love and provision. Score: 2/3

    4. Paul did not struggle with sin post conversion.

    I will have to disagree with sinless perfectionism/antinomian theories. Score: 2/4

    5. The creation was a literal 6 days (24 hours).

    This is the biblical and scientific evidence. Score: 3/5

    6. There is no such thing as "mental" illness.

    Semantics. Based on your narrow definitions, maybe. Based on my 20 year pre-hospital career, many are crazy out there. Score: 3.5/6

    7. Time is a measurement between two events.

    Time is other things. If you are saying timelessness is incoherent and that time is not a created thing, we agree. Score: 4.5/7

    8. Jesus is God manifested in the flesh.

    Incarnation. He is one person with two natures, the God-Man. Score: 5.5/8

    9. No man is justified by works

    Faith all the way (Eph. 2:8-10). Score: 6.5/9

    10. Salvation is an exchanged life, not a changed life.

    Both/and, not either/or. Salvation is also described with other terms and principles (actually, 'exchanged life' is a Georgism, not explicit Bible verse).

    Score: 7/10

    Since this score puts me in the lake of fire, I will now earn bonus points.


    Looks and personality: 8/10
    Black Belt: 9/10
    B. Th. degree: 10/10

    I'm in like Flint!

    Wait....

    Popularity: -1= 9/10

    Knowing and loving Jesus as Lord and Savior: 100/10

    Romans 8:1
    Jude 24-25
    Jn. 3:16
    I Jn. 5:11-13
    Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

    They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
    I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

    Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

    "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

    The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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    • #32
      1. A Christian cannot lose salvation.
      If that Christian is truly saved, then yes, I agree with you. Sad to say, too many people call themselves "Christian" but it's in name only.

      2. The sacrifice of Jesus was not "limited", but for all men, for all time.

      3. God wants all men to be saved, not just a predetermined "elect".
      I agree!

      4. Paul did not struggle with sin post conversion.
      Huh? Yow! Both Paul and every other Christian struggles with sin, until we go on to be with the Lord.

      5. The creation was a literal 6 days (24 hours).
      I agree

      6. There is no such thing as "mental" illness.
      I don't think I agree with this one. Man is made up of body, soul, and spirit. I believe that each one can be ill. When the body is sick, we need a physician. When the spirit is sick, we need the Great Physician, Jesus Christ. I also believe that when the soul (mind, will, emotions) can be sick by incorporating lies into your thinking. This is where you need to focus on the truth and get rid of the lies! Sad part is, people actually think that if we mentally accept the truths of Scripture, we obtain salvation (Intellectual acceptance of Scripture), but the danger lies in the potential fact that though intellectually the person believes in Jesus, they never place their faith in Him.

      It is this very hypothesis that all atheists, agnostics, and pagans are mentally ill. Once they turn to Christ, we need to lovingly and carefully teach them the truth of God's Word, and heal their mental illness.

      7. Time is a measurement between two events.

      8. Jesus is God manifested in the flesh.

      9. No man is justified by works
      I agree.

      10. Salvation is an exchanged life, not a changed life.
      Interesting. Not quite sure what you mean...

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      • #33
        7/10 Mr. JohnC. You must now go to mystery's lake of fire even though you know and love Jesus.

        Give yourself 3 points for looks and you might get to his heaven.
        Know God and make Him known! (YWAM)

        They said: "Where is the God of Elijah?"
        I say: "Where are the Elijahs of God?" (Ravenhill "Why Revival Tarries")

        Rev. 1:17, 18; Jer. 9:23, 24

        "No Compromise!" (Keith Green)

        The Pledge: He died for me; I'll live for Him.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by godrulz View Post
          7/10 Mr. JohnC. You must now go to mystery's lake of fire even though you know and love Jesus.

          Give yourself 3 points for looks and you might get to his heaven.
          Wrong thread, nitwit.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by johncalvinhall View Post
            Huh? Yow! Both Paul and every other Christian struggles with sin, until we go on to be with the Lord.
            Nope. We are free from sin. It is no longer a struggle.

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
              Wrong thread, nitwit.
              He is such a doofus, he doesn't even know where he is at, let alone what he believes.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Lighthouse View Post
                Wrong thread, nitwit.
                Give me a break...
                "Haven't seen the back of us yet..."

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                • #38
                  Sozo, I read up on Szasz and responded to you. Do you not have any response?
                  "Perhaps everything terrible is in its deepest being something that needs our love" ~ Rainer Maria Rilke

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                  • #39
                    I have no idea what you said.

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Mystery View Post
                      10 things I'm right about, whether you agree or not.
                      Get over yourself.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by SUTG View Post
                        Get over yourself.
                        You're a moron.

                        That makes #11

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Mystery View Post
                          I have no idea what you said.
                          Oh! Well, I said that Szasz makes some valid arguments but his perspective appears, to me, to be incomplete and over-generalized, and I gave the reasons why I think so.
                          "Perhaps everything terrible is in its deepest being something that needs our love" ~ Rainer Maria Rilke

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Balder View Post
                            Oh! Well, I said that Szasz makes some valid arguments but his perspective appears, to me, to be incomplete over-generalized, and I gave the reasons why I think so.
                            That part I got. I have no idea what those reasons are. I have no idea how they pertain to the mind having the ability to be diseased or not.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Mystery View Post
                              1. A Christian cannot lose salvation.

                              2. The sacrifice of Jesus was not "limited", but for all men, for all time.

                              3. God wants all men to be saved, not just a predetermined "elect".

                              4. Paul did not struggle with sin post conversion.

                              5. The creation was a literal 6 days (24 hours).

                              6. There is no such thing as "mental" illness.

                              7. Time is a measurement between two events.

                              8. Jesus is God manifested in the flesh.

                              9. No man is justified by works

                              10. Salvation is an exchanged life, not a changed life.


                              There is no such thing as 'mental illness'????!!!!

                              Well Thank you Mr resident psychologist and neurosurgeon all in one.....I suppose schizophrenia is just a trick of the mind or something, that clinical and manic depression are just not feeling too great....

                              grief....
                              "Either these curtains go or I do...."

                              - Oscar Wilde on deathbed

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                              • #45
                                I don't know, Mystery, but your acceptance of these postmodern ideas about mental disease is so... French. Mystery Foucault it is, Monsieur.
                                Tiger got to hunt,
                                Bird got to fly
                                Man got to sit and wonder "Why, why why?
                                Tiger got to sleep,
                                Bird got to land,
                                Man got to tell himself he understand.
                                -Bokonon

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