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    The problem with Protestants is that they denigrate the martyrs. They say that they are dead and won’t rise until the end time. This ridiculous Persian inherited ever receding end time theory is stupid and false. Martyrs never die as Christ never died. So he said “as I live so you shall live too.(Jn11-26)”. It is a ploy to forget the martyrs who place the cross in contemporary context. Actually worldly people are irritated at the mention of cross, prophets and martyrs. Those indict their compromising life. They think that the world can run smoothly without them. Only when a crisis surfaces they implore them and promptly forget after the crisis is covered.
    But every one of them is going to eternal death of spiritual disintegration (personality death) as we see in stark mad people even here. This world is like a falling stream of degenerate unrepentant souls of a vast pride-infected older paradise. This stream flows outward into the anarchy of dark hell outside where their disjoined soul parts remain to suffer eternally from the likes of them. Again it can be compared to a constantly burning flame where molecules are eternally disintegrated. In some cases the hell is obvious here, but for majority it is craftily hidden.
    But we Christ followers, having tasted his life and the deadly world, admire his love in Christian martyrs conquering sufferings, death and hate-hell. Only that is the antidote to almost irresistible eternal spiritual death. Always remembering their humiliations, deprivations, pains and torture for the sake of love and truth we can resist the destroyer devil’s enticements to falsehood encircling us. Those are drawing ease loving humanity towards eternal soul-personality death. Without martyrs’ spirit the terrible momentum of our disintegration fall can’t be checked.

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    Originally posted by stephengoswami View Post

    The problem with Protestants is that they denigrate the martyrs. They say that they are dead and won’t rise until the end time. This ridiculous Persian inherited ever receding end time theory is stupid and false. Martyrs never die as Christ never died. So he said “as I live so you shall live too.(Jn11-26)”. It is a ploy to forget the martyrs who place the cross in contemporary context. Actually worldly people are irritated at the mention of cross, prophets and martyrs. Those indict their compromising life. They think that the world can run smoothly without them. Only when a crisis surfaces they implore them and promptly forget after the crisis is covered.
    But every one of them is going to eternal death of spiritual disintegration (personality death) as we see in stark mad people even here. This world is like a falling stream of degenerate unrepentant souls of a vast pride-infected older paradise. This stream flows outward into the anarchy of dark hell outside where their disjoined soul parts remain to suffer eternally from the likes of them. Again it can be compared to a constantly burning flame where molecules are eternally disintegrated. In some cases the hell is obvious here, but for majority it is craftily hidden.
    But we Christ followers, having tasted his life and the deadly world, admire his love in Christian martyrs conquering sufferings, death and hate-hell. Only that is the antidote to almost irresistible eternal spiritual death. Always remembering their humiliations, deprivations, pains and torture for the sake of love and truth we can resist the destroyer devil’s enticements to falsehood encircling us. Those are drawing ease loving humanity towards eternal soul-personality death. Without martyrs’ spirit the terrible momentum of our disintegration fall can’t be checked.
    This is very well said, although it requires careful reading because of the writter's stringing words together to try to approximate what he means. for example "hate-hell" bywhich I take it to mean that hate and hell are the same thing. This is a pretty deep insight. One which many posters in these forums have yet to understand. When you hate, you are standing in hell, breathing its flames and speaking its words.

    Then there is this awsome poetic image,"This world is like a falling stream of degenerate unrepentant souls of a vast pride-infected older paradise. This stream flows outward into the anarchy of dark hell outside where their disjoined soul parts remain to suffer eternally." Truely horrificly beautiful.
    "Not everything that is clever, is true."

    - - St Ephiram of Syria - -

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      Originally posted by Sealeaf View Post
      This is very well said, although it requires careful reading because of the writter's stringing words together to try to approximate what he means. for example "hate-hell" bywhich I take it to mean that hate and hell are the same thing. This is a pretty deep insight. One which many posters in these forums have yet to understand. When you hate, you are standing in hell, breathing its flames and speaking its words.

      Then there is this awsome poetic image,"This world is like a falling stream of degenerate unrepentant souls of a vast pride-infected older paradise. This stream flows outward into the anarchy of dark hell outside where their disjoined soul parts remain to suffer eternally." Truely horrificly beautiful.
      Thank you for taking the trouble to understand. Being an Indian I am bad in English. If it helps people I shall be grateful.

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