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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    The only confused one between us is you.

    It's interesting that you think that Jesus can only do one thing. Very confused, you are.
    Good grief.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    You sound utterly confused.
    The only confused one between us is you.

    It's interesting that you think that Jesus can only do one thing. Very confused, you are.

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    I didn't have to do or say anything. You lied about me.
    You saying that is not truth.
    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post


    Peter, John, James... NEVER claimed "my gospel".

    There is a REASON that Paul makes that claim.... but you cannot understand.
    It is God’s and Jesus’ gospel.
    You had it carefully explained to you that Paul calls it ‘my’, ‘ours’, God’s, Jesus’.

    I even told you that it is my gospel.

    You saying “Peter, John, James, NEVER claimed “my gospel”” So what? They also don’t have as many letters as Paul does. I can hardly believe you say such things.
    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    I do laugh when you write "good news gospel" because it's silly.
    What is silly is you saying Jesus taught one to just the Jews, but Paul taught a better one to everyone.
    There is only one good news.
    I gave you many scriptures and the definition of the dictionary.

    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    GOSPEL MEANS GOOD NEWS.
    There. Is. Only. One.
    YOU SAY THERE ARE MANY.
    The gospel IS THE GOOD NEWS OF JESUS CHRIST.
    You say there are many.
    There is only one Jesus Christ and it is the gospel about him. He is the good news, the gospel is about him.
    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    So "good news gospel" means "good news good news". [IMG]file:///C:%5CUsers%5CVictoria%5CAppData%5CLocal%5CTemp%5Cm sohtmlclip1%5C01%5Cclip_image001.gif[/IMG]
    You are laughing at yourself but don't know it.

    You sound utterly confused.

    I gave you the dictionary and the Bible definition, but you say Paul has another gospel, another good news.


    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    So you just believe the first thing that you find on the Internet. No wonder you have problems.
    You are fighting the definition of a word.
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    No, there is only one good news, and it is Jesus Christ.
    Once AGAIN, your illogical nonsense is fallacious and illogical.

    There are MANY GOOD NEWS' associated with the Lord Jesus Christ.
    How many times do you have to be told the BIBLE SAYS the GOOD NEW IS JESUS AND THERE IS ONLY ONE JESUS?

    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    So you STILL cannot understand that GOSPEL MEANS GOOD NEWS.
    You spent too much time laughing at me when it was you all along.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    There is nothing you could do or say to me that would make me a liar.
    I didn't have to do or say anything. You lied about me.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    Guess what? It is my gospel. Yep that is right, it is my gospel. I believe in that gospel, and I preach that gospel. It is mine.

    I gave you scripture where Paul calls it 'my', 'our', 'God's', and 'Jesus'.
    Peter, John, James... NEVER claimed "my gospel".

    There is a REASON that Paul makes that claim.... but you cannot understand.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    So you say, there are many gospels, but you laugh when I call it the good news gospel. JESUS is the good news. There aren't many Jesus'.
    I do laugh when you write "good news gospel" because it's silly.

    GOSPEL MEANS GOOD NEWS.

    So "good news gospel" means "good news good news".

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    I picked the first thing that came up.
    So you just believe the first thing that you find on the Internet. No wonder you have problems.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    No, there is only one good news, and it is Jesus Christ.
    Once AGAIN, your illogical nonsense is fallacious and illogical.

    There are MANY GOOD NEWS' associated with the Lord Jesus Christ.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    The gospel good news is Jesus Christ.
    GOSPEL MEANS GOOD NEWS.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    There is one gospel good news.
    So you STILL cannot understand that GOSPEL MEANS GOOD NEWS.

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    Why do you lie about what I said?
    There is nothing you could do or say to me that would make me a liar.
    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    If Paul taught the "one true gospel", how could Paul claim that his gospel was MY GOSPEL?
    Guess what? It is my gospel. Yep that is right, it is my gospel. I believe in that gospel, and I preach that gospel. It is mine.

    I gave you scripture where Paul calls it 'my', 'our', 'God's', and 'Jesus'.


    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    There are MANY gospels in the Bible. That you cannot even understand something so simple as that "gospel" means "good news" is amazing.
    So you say, there are many gospels, but you laugh when I call it the good news gospel. JESUS is the good news. There aren't many Jesus'.

    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    Found some dictionary that you like?
    I picked the first thing that came up.

    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    The BIBLE says that gospel means GOOD NEWS. There are MANY "good news'" in the Bible.
    No, there is only one good news, and it is Jesus Christ.

    The gospel good news is Jesus Christ.

    Mark 1:1 [ John the Baptist Prepares the Way ] The beginning of the good news about Jesus the Messiah, the Son of God,

    Acts 5:42 Day after day, in the temple courts and from house to house, they never stopped teaching and proclaiming the good news that Jesus is the Messiah.

    Acts 8:12 But when they believed Philip as he proclaimed the good news of the kingdom of God and the name of Jesus Christ,they were baptized, both men and women.

    Acts 8:35 Then Philip began with that very passage of Scripture and told him the good news about Jesus.

    Acts 10:36 You know the message God sent to the people of Israel, announcing the good news of peace through Jesus Christ, who is Lord of all.

    Acts 11:20 Some of them, however, men from Cyprus and Cyrene, went to Antioch and began to speak to Greeks also, telling them the good news about the Lord Jesus.

    Acts 14:15 “Friends, why are you doing this? We too are only human, like you. We are bringing you good news, telling you to turn from these worthless things to the living God, who made the heavens and the earth and the sea and everything in them.

    Acts 17:18 A group of Epicurean and Stoic philosophers began to debate with him. Some of them asked, “What is this babbler trying to say?” Others remarked, “He seems to be advocating foreign gods.” They said this because Paul was preaching the good news about Jesus and the resurrection.

    Hebrews 4:2 For we also have had the good news proclaimed to us, just as they did; but the message they heard was of no value to them, because they did not share the faith of those who obeyed.


    There is one gospel good news.


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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

    You said Paul was the only one who taught the good news, and that it is a different one from the one Jesus taught while he walked the earth!
    Why do you lie about what I said?

    If Paul taught the "one true gospel", how could Paul claim that his gospel was MY GOSPEL?

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    Jesus IS the good news.
    There are MANY gospels in the Bible. That you cannot even understand something so simple as that "gospel" means "good news" is amazing.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    gos·pel
    /ˈɡäspəl/

    noun
    1. 1.
      the teaching or revelation of Christ.
      "it is the Church's mission to preach the gospel"
      Similar:
      Christian teaching
      Christ's teaching
      the life of Christ
      the word of God
      the good news
      Christian doctrine
      the New Testament
    2. 2.
      the record of Jesus' life and teaching in the first four books of the New Testament.
    Found some dictionary that you like?

    The BIBLE says that gospel means GOOD NEWS. There are MANY "good news'" in the Bible.

    The Bible frequently uses the term "the gospel OF". That simply means the GOOD NEW OF. Like the good news of the kingdom and the good news of the grace of God. Both are based on the Lord Jesus Christ, but both are NOT identical is every way.

    It's really too bad that you cannot understand this simple thing.

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  • God's Truth
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    Right Divider

    It was God’s Law given to Moses but it was called the Law of Moses---still the Law of God.

    Luke 2:22 [ Jesus Presented in the Temple ] When the time came for the purification rites required by theLaw of Moses, Joseph and Mary took him to Jerusalem to present him to the Lord
    Luke 24:44 He said to them, “This is what I told you while I was still with you: Everything must be fulfilled that is written about me in the Law of Moses, the Prophets and the Psalms.”
    John 7:23 Now if a boy can be circumcised on the Sabbath so that the law of Moses may not be broken, why are you angry with me for healing a man’s whole body on the Sabbath?
    Acts 13:39 Through him everyone who believes is set free from every sin, a justification you were not able to obtain under the law of Moses.
    Acts 15:5 Then some of the believers who belonged to the party of the Pharisees stood up and said, “The Gentiles must be circumcised and required to keep the law of Moses.
    Acts 15:21 For thelaw of Moses has been preached in every city from the earliest times and is read in the synagogues on every Sabbath.”
    Acts 28:23 They arranged to meet Paul on a certain day, and came in even larger numbers to the place where he was staying. He witnessed to them from morning till evening, explaining about the kingdom of God, and from the Law of Moses and from the Prophets he tried to persuade them about Jesus.
    1 Corinthians 9:9 For it is written in the Law of Moses: “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain.” Is it about oxen that God is concerned?
    Hebrews 10:28 Anyone who rejected thelaw of Moses died without mercy on the testimony of two or three witnesses.

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

    God gave Paul a gospel.... that's scripture.

    THREE times Paul calls it "MY GOSPEL". If there was just "one gospel", as you try to say, he could NOT say that. [I know you're going to go off on your illogical excuses for that].
    Paul calls it the GOSPEL OF CHRIST.

    Romans 15:19 by the power of signs and wonders, through the power of the Spirit of God. So from Jerusalem all the way around to Illyricum, I have fully proclaimed the gospel of Christ.
    1 Corinthians 9:12 If others have this right of support from you, shouldn’t we have it all the more? But we did not use this right. On the contrary, we put up with anything rather than hinder the gospel of Christ.
    2 Corinthians 2:12[ Ministers of the New Covenant ] Now when I went to Troas to preach the gospel of Christ and found that the Lord had opened a door for me,
    2 Corinthians 9:13 Because of the service by which you have proved yourselves, others will praise God for the obedience that accompanies your confession of the gospel of Christ, and for your generosity in sharing with them and with everyone else.
    2 Corinthians 10:14 We are not going too far in our boasting, as would be the case if we had not come to you, for we did get as far as you with the gospel ofChrist.
    Galatians 1:7 which is really no gospel at all. Evidently some people are throwing you into confusion and are trying to pervertthe gospel of Christ.
    Philippians 1:27 [ Life Worthy of the Gospel ] Whatever happens, conduct yourselves in a manner worthy of the gospel of Christ. Then, whether I come and see you or only hear about you in my absence, I will know that you stand firm in the one Spirit, striving together as one for the faith of the gospel
    1 Thessalonians 3:2 We sent Timothy, who is our brother and co-worker in God’s service in spreading the gospel of Christ, to strengthen and encourage you in your faith,


    Paul also calls it OUR GOSPEL:

    2 Corinthians 4:3 And even if our gospelis veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing.

    1 Thessalonians 1:5 because our gospel came to you not simply with words but also with power, with the Holy Spirit and deep conviction. You know how we lived among you for your sake.

    2 Thessalonians 2:14 He called you to this through our gospel, that you might share in the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    Paul AND PETER call it the Gospel of God.

    Romans 1:1 Paul, a servant of Christ Jesus, called to be an apostle and set apart for the gospel of God
    Romans 15:16 to be a minister of Christ Jesus to the Gentiles. He gave me the priestly duty of proclaiming the gospel of God, so that the Gentiles might become an offering acceptable to God, sanctified by the Holy Spirit.
    2 Corinthians 11:7 Was it a sin for me to lower myself in order to elevate you by preaching the gospel of God to you free of charge?
    1 Thessalonians 2:8 so we cared for you. Because we loved you so much, we were delighted to share with you not only the gospel of God but our lives as well.
    1 Thessalonians 2:9 Surely you remember, brothers and sisters, our toil and hardship; we worked night and day in order not to be a burden to anyone while we preached the gospel of God to you.
    1 Peter 4:17 For it is time for judgment to begin with God’s household; and if it begins with us, what will the outcome be for those who do not obey the gospel of God?
    1 Thessalonians 2:2 We had previously suffered and been treated outrageously in Philippi, as you know, but with the help of our God we dared to tell you his gospel in the face of strong opposition.

    There is only one Gospel, and it is God's Gospel, the Gospel of Christ, Paul's Gospel, and OUR GOSPEL.

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  • God's Truth
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    Right Divider

    Jesus is the good news and taught about himself.

    You think a lot of things are funny and they are not.

    Just like you have in your signature that Squeaky is dumb because he put 'your' instead of 'you're'. Out of all the dumb things Squeaky says, you put that?


    Last edited by God's Truth; February 15th, 2020, 09:35 AM.

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post


    I still laugh when I recall you saying "the good news gospel".
    You said Paul was the only one who taught the good news, and that it is a different one from the one Jesus taught while he walked the earth!

    Now that is funny.

    Jesus IS the good news.



    gos·pel
    /ˈɡäspəl/

    noun
    1. 1.
      the teaching or revelation of Christ.
      "it is the Church's mission to preach the gospel"
      Similar:
      Christian teaching
      Christ's teaching
      the life of Christ
      the word of God
      the good news
      Christian doctrine
      the New Testament
    2. 2.
      the record of Jesus' life and teaching in the first four books of the New Testament.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

    Prove it with scripture. A person can't prove it with scripture while saying the scriptures are random.
    God gave Paul a gospel.... that's scripture.

    THREE times Paul calls it "MY GOSPEL". If there was just "one gospel", as you try to say, he could NOT say that. [I know you're going to go off on your illogical excuses for that].

    I still laugh when I recall you saying "the good news gospel".

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post

    Telling you the truth is insulting to you?
    Prove it with scripture. A person can't prove it with scripture while saying the scriptures are random.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

    Opinion, insults, putting scripture aside...will never ever be a defense.
    Telling you the truth is insulting to you?

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  • God's Truth
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    Originally posted by Right Divider View Post
    You have an opinion (I called it your "story") that you are misusing scripture to try to support. That you cannot see this is obvious.


    Here is a hint for you: You don't understand and telling you that insults you because you cannot see it any other way.


    Blah... blah... blah...

    God revealed new things to Paul (that's what revelation means). That you reject these things and try to mash them together is your own personal problem. You're not alone. There are many Bible masher/blenders here on TOL.
    Opinion, insults, putting scripture aside...will never ever be a defense.

    You bring up Paul, as if anyone has to defend him to me.

    Paul had the truth revealed to him just as the other disciples.

    Paul, a toughie, someone who had people beat and put in prison, was himself strong and tough enough to spread the gospel and be beat and put in prison.

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  • Right Divider
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    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post

    That's your opinion. That is why we are to debate instead of you just giving your opinion about my beliefs.
    You have an opinion (I called it your "story") that you are misusing scripture to try to support. That you cannot see this is obvious.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    Here is a hint for you: saying I don't understand, and saying I randomly use scripture, and trying to force anything---is NOT true and your defense is to insult---which is no defense of the truth.
    Here is a hint for you: You don't understand and telling you that insults you because you cannot see it any other way.

    Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
    It is unbelievable when one tries to say someone is randomly using scriptures. You can't do that. Jesus says you can't put any scripture aside. That is what you do when you say such things to me.
    Blah... blah... blah...

    God revealed new things to Paul (that's what revelation means). That you reject these things and try to mash them together is your own personal problem. You're not alone. There are many Bible masher/blenders here on TOL.

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