ECT 2P2P resembles the gender obsessed mentality

[Interplanner]

Even though it could actually grasp what various core NT passages are saying, 2P2P is a mindset that has something else to do before it arrives at each passage. It reminds me of the gender obsession; their first concern is what is being said about the genders and fixing that--in the direction of equality.

'Equality' in the 2P2P world is making sure both plans of God so-called get equal attention. Never mind whether the Israel one completely dissappeared from the theological landscape as Acts or passages in Gal 4 (the child-trainer) or Hebrews (the obsolete covenant), it seeks to conquer and control the NT, and force people to believe 2P2P is true uber alles, and then we can get to details.

The fact is that it is obsessed with a fixed feature (race) precisely where we are not supposed to be concerned as NT believers.

Subscribing to 2P2P is like having a map that only reaches a mile from your house in each direction.

 

[SaulToPaul 2]

:chuckle:


Now I've heard it all.

 

[ttruscott]

Subscribing to 2P2P is like having a map that only reaches a mile from your house in each direction.

So, how do you interpret Matt13:36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. especially since Explain means to leave out symbolism and metaphor so everything said is raw truth...?

Two people, two programs....

 

[Interplanner]

So, how do you interpret Matt13:36 Then he left the crowd and went into the house. His disciples came to him and said, “Explain to us the parable of the weeds in the field.”

37 He answered, “The one who sowed the good seed is the Son of Man. 38 The field is the world, and the good seed stands for the people of the kingdom. The weeds are the people of the evil one, 39 and the enemy who sows them is the devil. especially since Explain means to leave out symbolism and metaphor so everything said is raw truth...?

Two people, two programs....

No problem. I'm talking about something else. In terms of this parable, what if the 'good' people actually believed 2 disparate things, really quite different, but were still called 'good.' No can do. It would fall apart.

2P2P is a belief that things that were 'promised' to Judaism are still due and binding and that no matter what the NT says, at some point in the future, the bible/God is going back and doing those kinds of things again. The expression is from a theology professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, Charles Ryrie, who said that the definitive thing about Dispensationalism (not the Bible!) is that God has two peoples and programs (and 2s of lots of other things), that never meet or overlap, but are still valid or essential.

I see nothing of that sort in the NT.

 

[ttruscott]

2P2P is a belief that things that were 'promised' to Judaism are still due and binding and that no matter what the NT says, at some point in the future, the bible/God is going back and doing those kinds of things again. The expression is from a theology professor at Dallas Theological Seminary, Charles Ryrie, who said that the definitive thing about Dispensationalism (not the Bible!) is that God has two peoples and programs (and 2s of lots of other things), that never meet or overlap, but are still valid or essential.

I see nothing of that sort in the NT.

Hmmm,neither have I...

 

[Nick M]

Hmmm,neither have I...

You didn't read about promises to Israel in the Bible?

 

[Interplanner]

You didn't read about promises to Israel in the Bible?

An intelligent reading of the NT is that they don't matter anymore as they once did. This partly found in the apostles declarations about the promises (Acts 13's sermon, Act's 26's hearing statements, 2 Cor 1 about all of God's promises, Rom 15 about Christ serving the promises, etc.)

It is also how the NT continues the thought of Dan 9: there's the great prayer for the destiny of Israel. The answer: Messiah comes and accomplishes what he is supposed to but the city and the sanctuary are decimated. Without mentioning any distant future resurgence.