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  • Originally posted by Lon View Post
    It was a simple request. Only courtesy and self restraint were appealed to.
    Granted ... the only question I would have is, "To what end?"
    Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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    • Originally posted by john w View Post

      In order to be the Mediator between God and man, the Lord Jesus had to partake of both God's nature and man's nature. That is mediation--He entered into the very nature of both parties involved!
      Care to demonstrate the above scripturally?
      Atheism is a advertising nightmare as in what you see is what you get and when you die that's it. - DaveDodo007

      Totally depraved doctrine.
      Uncertain salvation.
      Luck of the draw.
      Irresistible damnation.
      Persecution of the saints.

      Courtesy of Desert Reign

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      • Originally posted by fzappa13 View Post
        Granted ... the only question I would have is, "To what end?"
        You haven't seen encouragement threads on here before?
        My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
        Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
        Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
        Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
        No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
        Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

        ? Yep

        Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

        ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

        Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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        • Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
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          I have told you that you have no understanding of scripture...none of these discount the scriptures that declare Jesus to be God in he flesh.

          And there are old and new testament scriptures that declare Him to be God....you are studying only with your natural mind, that is not good enough to understand scripture.
          You need to show me by your un-natural mind which of these texts supports your claim or how can your un-natural mind make them to say that Jesus is God.

          Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:21, 10:36, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1.

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          • Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
            My mind is as natural as yours but neither you or I will understand the scripture with our natural minds...you are in active opposition to the Holy Spirit whose mission in this age is to exalt the Lord Jesus...how then will He teach you?
            Can you tell us who inspired those below to put it down the way they did?

            Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:21, 10:36, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1.

            Now, tell us who is that spirit who inspires you to contradict the one who inspired those who penned the texts above?

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            • Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
              The Holy Ghost is able to sort you out.
              He has just been doing it. Just listen to him, Totton:

              Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:21, 10:36, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1.

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              • Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
                Jus trying to be helpful
                We don’t need your un-natural mind’s help, Totton. Just acknowledge this or explain why your un-natural mind rejects it:

                Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:21, 10:36, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1.

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                • Originally posted by john w View Post
                  The Lord Jesus always was/is God; He had God's nature from all eternity.
                  Is that sooooo?

                  Why then Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Jn 3:34, Ac 13:23, 2:36?

                  By being born of the virgin Mary...
                  So mary gave birth to God.

                  ...he took upon Himself the nature of man.
                  God then made himself a man.

                  Woooow.

                  He is referred to in the Scriptures as both "Son of God" and "Son of man".
                  But never God the Son.

                  One wonders why this:

                  Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
                  Joh 10:35 If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
                  Joh 10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God?
                  1Jo 3:1 Behold, what manner of love the Father hath bestowed upon us, that we should be called the sons of God: therefore the world knoweth us not, because it knew him not.
                  1Jo 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

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                  • Originally posted by john w View Post
                    “Wherefore the people did chide with Moses, and said, Give us water that we may drink. And Moses said unto them, Why chide ye with me? wherefore do ye tempt the LORD?” Exodus 17:2

                    “Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them also tempted, and were destroyed of serpents.” 1 Corinthians 10:9

                    Thus, Exodus says “the people” tempted whom? The LORD. And the scriptures in 1 Cor., referring to the same OT history of “children of Israel”(Exodus 17:1), says they tempted Christ. Christ is the LORD God.


                    End of thread.
                    Would you like to consider Eze 34:23-24 or Php 2:11?

                    To the glory of God the Father.

                    What about this:

                    Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

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                    • Perhaps it’s time for a Trinitarian only forum. I mean, here at TOL, there have been attempts to better serve its clientele that have seen the creation the Christian only forum (yours truly having been a part of that little scrum) and the women only forum (yours truly having been obviously excluded from that one) … maybe this further subdivision will serve some useful purpose.

                      Experimentation is the proof of the scientific method. Perhaps it has its application here as well.
                      Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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                      • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                        You haven't seen encouragement threads on here before?
                        Answering a question with a question?
                        Some drink at the fountain of knowledge, others just gargle.

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                        • Originally posted by fzappa13 View Post
                          Perhaps it’s time for a Trinitarian only forum. I mean, here at TOL, there have been attempts to better serve its clientele that have seen the creation the Christian only forum (yours truly having been a part of that little scrum) and the women only forum (yours truly having been obviously excluded from that one) … maybe this further subdivision will serve some useful purpose.

                          Experimentation is the proof of the scientific method. Perhaps it has its application here as well.
                          Why would a Christian be afraid of his faith be questioned?

                          Is it not how he should convince the world by presenting the truth as it is written in the scriptures?

                          Has a Christian something to hide?

                          Is the light of the scriptures to be hidden?


                          In principle I see nothing wrong in this but it usually gives unlimited licence to slander the true worshippers of the Father the only true God by the peddlers of pagan fables.
                          Last edited by jerzy; May 24, 2011, 01:57 AM.

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                          • Originally posted by jerzy View Post
                            We don’t need your un-natural mind’s help, Totton. Just acknowledge this or explain why your un-natural mind rejects it:

                            Isa 11:1-3, 42:1+6, Eze 34:23-24, Mic 5:2, Mt 6:9, 11:25, Jn 6:23, 6:44-45, 6:65, 14:6, 14:10, 17:3, 20:17, 20:31, Ac 2:22, 2:36, 3:21, 10:36, 17:31, Ro 1:7, 1Cor 1:3, 8:6, 2Co 1:2, 5:18+21, Eph 1:3, 2:18, Ga 1:1, 1:3, Col 1:1-3, 1:12-13, Php 1:2, 1Th 1:1-3, 2Th 1:1-2, 1Ti 1:1-2, 2:5, 2Ti 1:1-2, Ti 1:4, Phm 1:3-4, Heb 1:1-2, Jam 1:1, 1Pe 1:2-3, 2Pe 1:2, 1Jn 1:2-3, 2Jn 1:3, Jud 1:1, Re 1:1.
                            The only life Christ has to impart is divine life, that is why Rlz rightly says it is a salvic issue. You will never enter His kingdom until you bow the knee to Him as God. What you are in is an unhappy vacuum trying to disprove His divinity.
                            One lavished upon in the Beloved
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                            • Originally posted by Totton Linnet View Post
                              The only life Christ has to impart is divine life, that is why Rlz rightly says it is a salvic issue. You will never enter His kingdom until you bow the knee to Him as God. What you are in is an unhappy vacuum trying to disprove His divinity.
                              You remind me godruls and Ktoyou, Totton.

                              They have sooooo much to say but never able to point out where it is written.

                              I know that this was written, Totton:

                              Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

                              Can you show where is written that I have to "bow the knee to Him as God"?

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                              • Originally posted by jerzy View Post
                                You remind me godruls and Ktoyou, Totton.

                                They have sooooo much to say but never able to point out where it is written.

                                I know that this was written, Totton:

                                Joh 17:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

                                Can you show where is written that I have to "bow the knee to Him as God"?
                                *
                                You honour me by associating my name with William and Kat.

                                But you do not KNOW Jesus Christ whom God has sent....your Jesus Christ is as different to the One I know as man is different to God.
                                One lavished upon in the Beloved
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