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  • Originally posted by Charity View Post
    HI Ben, would you say we have a problem with nations that believe their god created the universe an that gives them authority to rule over other nations?
    I believe the early scientists, having observed the universe,recored their work only for their names to be earased by looters, who in turn gave their god all the glory for a 7 day knowledge, an failed to tell the truth about where they obtained the infomation.
    The oldest known Calendar is a Lunar Calendar in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, which was constructed around 8,000 BCE.
    The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC), shortly after the Roman conquest of Egypt. It was the predominant calendar in the Roman world, most of Europe, and in European settlements in the Americas and elsewhere, until it was refined and gradually replaced by the Gregorian calendar, promulgated in 1582 by Pope Gregory XIII.
    Religion must maintain its lie. an is very furious when it come to science.
    IMHO, we can use Science itself to prove the existence of HaShem through the concept of Causality.

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    • Originally posted by Charity View Post
      I spose so too.
      I apologize if I have offended.

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      • Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post
        I apologize if I have offended.
        Shhh, Your most appreciated

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        • Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post
          IMHO, we can use Science itself to prove the existence of HaShem through the concept of Causality.
          The oldest known Calendar is a Lunar Calendar in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, which was constructed around 8,000 BCE.
          The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC), shortly after the Roman conquest of Egypt.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_s8Z-uE48

          Religion must maintain its lie. furious AS IT IS with science.

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          • Originally posted by Charity View Post
            The oldest known Calendar is a Lunar Calendar in Aberdeenshire, Scotland, which was constructed around 8,000 BCE.
            The Julian calendar, introduced by Julius Caesar in 46 BC (708 AUC), was a reform of the Roman calendar. It took effect in 45 BC (709 AUC), shortly after the Roman conquest of Egypt.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_s8Z-uE48

            Religion must maintain its lie. furious AS IT IS with science.
            I think we have decided to take a walk far away from the theme of this post. I am sure the above has nothing to with a statement of faith.

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            • Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post
              I think we have decided to take a walk far away from the theme of this post. I am sure the above has nothing to with a statement of faith.

              Well I believe that as time unfolds the earth will understand that a Nation of fathers deceived the whole world by back dating then science of 7 days a week over the top of a earlier 4-10 day week theme.

              The matnance to the lie may reveal that in fact they continue to their absolute end,
              HENCE not IN a CONCERN for the salvation of souls, that entrusting themselves,
              but to save their own shame an the Distruction in the light of their empire seen by the truth,
              people will turn an shake their heads understanding the Nature of Creating signs an wonders hence, to curse an bewitch within early civilizations stranded an the earth of child like faith.
              Truth is not spiritual fact, its a moral choice.
              The 7 Day A week knowledge has been back dated intending to capture an control the world by faith alone.

              1, did they ever expect that science, the earths energy would uncover magicians, lies an gully?
              2 did they ever expect that when their curse of wealth was broken, that civilization would be free to ponder the real inner being freely, the invisible limb, what is god, other than the schoolmaster curse.
              with you- with every breath - from birth to death, Never to be amuptated, but often suffocated,
              the most exciting an hart lifting experiance, is the event of an adult listening to learn from a free child as one shall pour out in depth the great committee within in pure innocence.


              POST#1 REPORT TOL STATEMENT
              God offers salvation by grace through faith alone in the resurrected Christ.
              The Bible records the true history of man including that God created the heavens and the earth and everything in them in six literal days; only eight people survived a global flood; through great wonders God delivered Israel from Egypt; the prophets, Christ, and the apostles performed many miraculous deeds.

              The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, in their original state, are the inspired Word of God. God legislated morality out of love for His creation.
              Men who reject God will suffer eternal damnation.

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              • cheer UP! From the Kingdom of Harps an pipe music to remind of the old world...

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nW_s8Z-uE48

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                • [QUOTE=Charity;4328854]
                  Well I believe that as time unfolds the earth will understand that a Nation of fathers deceived the whole world by back dating then science of 7 days a week over the top of a earlier 4-10 day week theme.
                  Are you implying that Jesus was a deceiver? In the Genesis account of Creation, the 7 days had noting to do with the Creation of the universe but only the Jewish way to establish the week cycle and the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy.

                  The matnance to the lie may reveal that in fact they continue to their absolute end, HENCE not IN a CONCERN for the salvation of souls, that entrusting themselves, but to save their own shame an the Distruction in the light of their empire seen by the truth, people will turn an shake their heads understanding the Nature of Creating signs an wonders hence, to curse an bewitch within early civilizations stranded an the earth of child like faith.
                  Jesus was a Jew whose Faith was Judaism and, as I can understand, by claiming that Judaism was a lie, you are implying that Jesus was a liar.

                  Truth is not spiritual fact, its a moral choice. The 7 Day A week knowledge has been back dated intending to capture an control the world by faith alone.
                  That's not Jewish. Judaism is not based on faith alone. This is rather a Pauline doctrine for Christians only. (II Cor. 5:7)

                  1, did they ever expect that science, the earths energy would uncover magicians, lies an gully?
                  I don't know what you are talking about.

                  2 did they ever expect that when their curse of wealth was broken, that civilization would be free to ponder the real inner being freely, the invisible limb, what is god, other than the schoolmaster curse.
                  Now, you are giving me the impression that you an atheist. It means you are not being clear enough with your verbal juggling of no sense.

                  with you- with every breath - from birth to death, Never to be amuptated, but often suffocated, the most exciting an hart lifting experiance, is the event of an adult listening to learn from a free child as one shall pour out in depth the great committee within in pure innocence.
                  I still can't see what you are talking about.

                  God offers salvation by grace through faith alone in the resurrected Christ.
                  Again, Jesus was a Jew and, the only Scriptures he used to refer to as the Word of God does not adopt the Christian doctrine of resurrection. (Isa. 26:14; II Sam. 12:23; Job 10:21)

                  The Bible records the true history of man including that God created the heavens and the earth and everything in them in six literal days; only eight people survived a global flood; through great wonders God delivered Israel from Egypt; the prophets, Christ, and the apostles performed many miraculous deeds.
                  So, what are you fighting about? At least, give me a reason why you don't believe those records.

                  The Scriptures of the Old and New Testaments, in their original state, are the inspired Word of God. God legislated morality out of love for His creation.
                  If you believe so, why are you speaking against those Scriptures? If you don't, why don't you say clearly you don't?

                  Men who reject God will suffer eternal damnation.
                  There is nothing eternal about man but death.

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                  • [QUOTE=Ben Masada;4332234]
                    Originally posted by Charity View Post

                    Are you implying that Jesus was a deceiver? In the Genesis account of Creation, the 7 days had noting to do with the Creation of the universe but only the Jewish way to establish the week cycle and the commandment to keep the Sabbath holy.



                    Jesus was a Jew whose Faith was Judaism and, as I can understand, by claiming that Judaism was a lie, you are implying that Jesus was a liar.



                    That's not Jewish. Judaism is not based on faith alone. This is rather a Pauline doctrine for Christians only. (II Cor. 5:7)



                    I don't know what you are talking about.



                    Now, you are giving me the impression that you an atheist. It means you are not being clear enough with your verbal juggling of no sense.



                    I still can't see what you are talking about.



                    Again, Jesus was a Jew and, the only Scriptures he used to refer to as the Word of God does not adopt the Christian doctrine of resurrection. (Isa. 26:14; II Sam. 12:23; Job 10:21)



                    So, what are you fighting about? At least, give me a reason why you don't believe those records.



                    If you believe so, why are you speaking against those Scriptures? If you don't, why don't you say clearly you don't?



                    There is nothing eternal about man but death.
                    Hi Ben, the struggle with the Muslims Jews an Catholics, government, religion an royalty.
                    The Portions of Posesion of Jesus an his mission argument that I am enthralled to enjoy an entertain. However The battle is worth settling, when some one is not really concerned what the truth an is happy for the truth whatever it is, they are free to listen, I believe that would be what Jesus wants, those that join armys to carry on the battle of blood flesh an bone have chosen an oath, I'm not sure if you are tired of the way Jesus is being used by most religious institutions. Giving him many faces, natures an missions? God, brother, prophet, son of God, mocked king of the Jews is logical?

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                    • [QUOTE=Charity;4332676]
                      Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post

                      Hi Ben, the struggle with the Muslims Jews an Catholics, government, religion an royalty.
                      The Portions of Posesion of Jesus an his mission argument that I am enthralled to enjoy an entertain. However The battle is worth settling, when some one is not really concerned what the truth an is happy for the truth whatever it is, they are free to listen, I believe that would be what Jesus wants, those that join armys to carry on the battle of blood flesh an bone have chosen an oath, I'm not sure if you are tired of the way Jesus is being used by most religious institutions. Giving him many faces, natures an missions? God, brother, prophet, son of God, mocked king of the Jews is logical?
                      I am going to answer only the part I understood of your post above. Yes, I am tired of the way the NT uses a Jew to preach against Judaism. I consider an arrogance to pick up a Jew and to preach against his Faith which was Judaism

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                      • [QUOTE=Ben Masada;4335763]
                        Originally posted by Charity View Post

                        I am going to answer only the part I understood of your post above. Yes, I am tired of the way the NT uses a Jew to preach against Judaism. I consider an arrogance to pick up a Jew and to preach against his Faith which was Judaism
                        I understand that, when King David became king he faced the challenge of dividing the inheritance of Israel between the tribes, as had been pre promised, an never exceciuted, in fact it was made law that the children be told, an each generation of children shall be schooled an teach those after them.

                        After much fighting over the inheritance ruling.

                        King David measured an divided them inherance by line.
                        The news of the lines went out to the whole world end, The news, he had set up a tabnackles to the sun.
                        David made them dwel in their tents within inheritance.
                        David preached of all the marvellous things moses did in the sight of his people.
                        Turning water to blood, Parting the Red Sea, feeding them by commanding the cloud to open, Angels food to rain down from above, stricking rocks an providing water..an many other things did moses do.
                        David understood that these miricules that Moses performed I frount of his people bare unusual Friut, they sinned even more against him,
                        Therefore their days did he consume in vanity, and their years in trouble.
                        David understood
                        Moses reaction to his rebellious people was:
                        When he slew them, then they sought him: and they returned and enquired early after God.
                        David being not a man that would sit on the throne an rule this way. Began to rule an make his own statues, which did not please the house of Moses, his desendents.
                        The kingdoms of David did live in peace for many years, the tribes an there beliefs remained within the line of there inheritance. Forbidden to cause strife with their brothers.
                        David purchased his inheritance with his right arm.
                        Latter the kingdoms were turned upside down, certian disgruntled Tribes of Israel wanting Davids inheritance, even making alliances with others to over throw the estate. In which the alliance stabbed them an took all!

                        An jesus...well he had his graments ripped an torn, an his gene argued over. His birth right became angel like.. What a mess.

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                        • [QUOTE=Charity;4336259]
                          Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post

                          I understand that, when King David became king he faced the challenge of dividing the inheritance of Israel between the tribes, as had been pre promised, an never exceciuted, in fact it was made law that the children be told, an each generation of children shall be schooled an teach those after them.

                          After much fighting over the inheritance ruling.

                          King David measured an divided them inherance by line.
                          The news of the lines went out to the whole world end, The news, he had set up a tabnackles to the sun.
                          David made them dwel in their tents within inheritance.
                          David preached of all the marvellous things moses did in the sight of his people.
                          Turning water to blood, Parting the Red Sea, feeding them by commanding the cloud to open, Angels food to rain down from above, stricking rocks an providing water..an many other things did moses do.
                          David understood that these miricules that Moses performed I frount of his people bare unusual Friut, they sinned even more against him,
                          Therefore their days did he consume in vanity, and their years in trouble.
                          David understood
                          Moses reaction to his rebellious people was:
                          When he slew them, then they sought him: and they returned and enquired early after God.
                          David being not a man that would sit on the throne an rule this way. Began to rule an make his own statues, which did not please the house of Moses, his desendents.
                          The kingdoms of David did live in peace for many years, the tribes an there beliefs remained within the line of there inheritance. Forbidden to cause strife with their brothers.
                          David purchased his inheritance with his right arm.
                          Latter the kingdoms were turned upside down, certian disgruntled Tribes of Israel wanting Davids inheritance, even making alliances with others to over throw the estate. In which the alliance stabbed them an took all!

                          An jesus...well he had his graments ripped an torn, an his gene argued over. His birth right became angel like.. What a mess.
                          That's right Charity but, I am sorry to tell you that this post of yours above is a real mess. No offense meant, but you must review your posts before you click to post them. One wastes a lot of time trying to understand what you mean to convey. That's just a small part. The major part is in terms of grammar mistakes. The forum offers the chance to fix those mistakes by underlining them in red but you seem to ignore them. Why! Make your posts easier for us to read and you will have the answers you expect.

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                          • [QUOTE=Ben Masada;4339952]
                            Originally posted by Charity View Post

                            That's right Charity but, I am sorry to tell you that this post of yours above is a real mess. No offense meant, but you must review your posts before you click to post them. One wastes a lot of time trying to understand what you mean to convey. That's just a small part. The major part is in terms of grammar mistakes. The forum offers the chance to fix those mistakes by underlining them in red but you seem to ignore them. Why! Make your posts easier for us to read and you will have the answers you expect.
                            Thanks Ben. Appreciate that, seems people spend years trying to understand the bibles punctuation. To be Very offended by another elsewhere with a completely different intureprtation of ten words.

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                            • [QUOTE=Charity;4340293]
                              Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post

                              Thanks Ben. Appreciate that, seems people spend years trying to understand the bibles punctuation. To be Very offended by another elsewhere with a completely different intureprtation of ten words.
                              Well, at least you are condescending and not so arrogant as an atheist. That's a virtue.

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                              • The [QUOTE=Ben Masada;4344697]
                                Originally posted by Charity View Post

                                Well, at least you are condescending and not so arrogant as an atheist. That's a virtue.
                                Don't like to be boxed an atheist!
                                Rather condescending, the anointed were orinally the only humans that could hear God, everyone else would be at there mercy an direction, if the anointed lord god the king would do good the people would believe he was the Chanel of God, if the lord god the king was cruel the people would be supusious of is ear. Governors were elected, apparently they could an must hear God, that's how government first began.
                                citiZens never claimed the anointing, they remained in fear of one that claimed to hear God. Which ushered in a code of authority, forming a habitual few people ruling crowds.
                                Some use natural misfortune to accuse the un anointed of spitual disobedience.

                                So how an when did it change, now governors an rulers no longer need anointing in hearing God during ruling people that belive they can all hear God now! An some people just don't want to believe in one God that's telling all these people different things!

                                Surly it's resilution for the atheist that all people are better off deaf agin,
                                An that all authority's prove that God has told them to Take the seat!

                                As said
                                all is sealed in a habit, when all the trees continue to observe, come an rule over us!

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