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  • #76
    Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
    Or not...
    According to Paul in Romans 14, Christians with extra freedom (strong faith) should not flaunt that freedom before Christians that are not as free (weak faith) if their actions will destroy the faith of the weaker Christian.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
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    • #77
      Brumley holds water baptism as a sign of salvation and genuineoriginal thinks it's for remission of sins, how confused is that.

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Cntrysner View Post
        Every Christian is baptized, no water is necessary, have you heard of it? One baptism not two.
        But you reject the one baptism.
        Learn to read what is written.

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        • #79
          Originally posted by Cntrysner View Post
          Brumley holds water baptism as a sign of salvation and genuineoriginal thinks it's for remission of sins, how confused is that.
          Peter stated that the baptism is not for the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but is the answer of a good conscience towards God.

          1 Peter 3:21
          21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:


          Are you rejecting baptism because you do not have a good conscience towards God?
          Learn to read what is written.

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          The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
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          • #80
            Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
            Jesus said it was proper for John to baptize Him. Cite where he said he had to. And I will prayfully consider it.
            Don't you know water baptism was for remission of sins.

            ct 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

            Was Peter wrong?

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Cntrysner View Post
              Brumley holds water baptism as a sign of salvation and genuineoriginal thinks it's for remission of sins, how confused is that.
              You have yet to answer why you wear your wedding ring.
              The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                But you reject the one baptism.
                Negative, I just don't water it down, As paul said, for Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel. Don't you know that the gospel has the God given power to baptize without water?

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                • #83
                  Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                  You have yet to answer why you wear your wedding ring.
                  I don't wear a ring but I own one. My wife loves me without wearing it.

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Cntrysner View Post
                    Negative, I just don't water it down, As paul said, for Christ sent me not to baptize but to preach the gospel. Don't you know that the gospel has the God given power to baptize without water?
                    I don't remember seeing any verses to support your claim.
                    Is it from a doctrine of men instead of the Bible?
                    Learn to read what is written.

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                    • #85
                      Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                      Peter stated that the baptism is not for the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but is the answer of a good conscience towards God.

                      1 Peter 3:21
                      21 The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ:


                      Are you rejecting baptism because you do not have a good conscience towards God?
                      So, water baptism for the remission of sins does not put away the filth of the flesh? Explain. Where did your sins go if you did not wash them away with water?

                      Don't you know, you can't wash away your sins, you have to be circumcised to escape your sin.

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                      • #86
                        Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                        I don't remember seeing any verses to support your claim.
                        Is it from a doctrine of men instead of the Bible?
                        You apparently can't see anything concerning salvation without a sign. As paul said...

                        1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
                        1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
                        1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
                        Last edited by Cntrysner; September 23rd, 2019, 05:49 PM.

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                        • #87
                          Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                          I don't remember seeing any verses to support your claim.
                          Is it from a doctrine of men instead of the Bible?
                          Why was Paul sent not to water baptize?

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                          • #88
                            Quote Originally Posted by drbrumley View Post
                            Jesus said it was proper for John to baptize Him. Cite where he said he had to. And I will prayfully consider it.

                            Mat 3:13 Then cometh Jesus from Galilee to Jordan unto John, to be baptized of him.
                            Mat 3:14 But John forbad him, saying, I have need to be baptized of thee, and comest thou to me?
                            Mat 3:15 And Jesus answering said unto him, Suffer it to be so now: for thus it becometh us to fulfil all righteousness. Then he suffered him.

                            Did Jesus have to fulfill all righteousness?

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                            • #89
                              1Co 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
                              Christ the Wisdom and Power of God
                              1Co 1:18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
                              1Co 1:19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
                              1Co 1:20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
                              1Co 1:21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
                              1Co 1:22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
                              1Co 1:23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;

                              For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:
                              Compare to..
                              But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by drbrumley View Post
                                circumsion was required for the jews…..I am not a Jew though so it has no bearing on me.
                                Yes it does...and must be to escape sin, you can't just wash sin away.

                                Col 2:10 And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
                                Col 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:

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