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  • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
    I answered your question.

    Your refusal to acknowledge it as an answer to your question speaks for itself.

    There is only one God.

    Therefore, asking if Jesus is "a God" inherently contradicts that there is only one God, because it implies that there is more than one God, and that God is simply one of many of the same level beings.

    God is God, He is not "a God," He is THE ONLY GOD.
    God is going to judge this conversation
    you are going to lose.

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    • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
      God is going to judge this conversation
      you are going to lose.
      I have no idea what you're even talking about.

      Posturing isn't going to help you on this forum.

      If you have an argument for your position, make it.

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      • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
        I have no idea what you're even talking about.

        Posturing isn't going to help you on this forum.

        If you have an argument for your position, make it.
        I know you have no idea what I said to you.
        I have already presented my argument to God.

        You are going to lose.

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        • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
          I know you have no idea what I said to you.
          I have already presented my argument to God.

          You are going to lose.
          Lose what?

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          • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
            Lose what?
            Now if I told you
            you might believe me.

            Nah you would not believe me.
            But someone else reading the thread might so
            I will just keep that to myself.

            But you can always ask God
            and have Him tell you
            or will He?

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            • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
              Now if I told you
              you might believe me.

              Nah you would not believe me.
              But someone else reading the thread might so
              I will just keep that to myself.

              But you can always ask God
              and have Him tell you
              or will He?
              Look, if you're not going to explain your position to others on this forum, then why are you even here?

              Because if you're just here to troll, our ban-hammers here at TOL are the fastest on the internet, especially for trolls.

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              • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
                Which one of these is true?

                A. Jesus is a God.
                B. Jesus is a god.
                C. None of the above.

                I did this because you changed the wording of my question
                so as to answer it the way you wanted to answer it.
                Now this should force you to answer in truth or not answer it in truth.


                You're the one who changed the wording of my answer. here, remember?

                No, it does not determine if Jesus is God. It says, Jesus is God.

                (post #262 and 263)


                Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
                You believe that in the scriptures
                it states that Jesus is a God?


                You injected "a" in that statement!
                The other poster merely tried to help and make it more clear for you.
                Oh, boy.....


                I don't know about God judging this thread, but............

                ........highly likely, some people will be judging your comprehension skills!

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                • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
                  God is going to judge this conversation
                  you are going to lose.
                  I can't help it.....this sense of humor!
                  Maybe, God will judge this conversation and, ask you:

                  what on earth are you on about?

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                  • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                    Look, if you're not going to explain your position to others on this forum, then why are you even here?

                    Because if you're just here to troll, our ban-hammers here at TOL are the fastest on the internet, especially for trolls.
                    In heaven they also have a ban hammer and God gave it me.

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                    • Originally posted by ioy1273 View Post
                      In heaven they also have a ban hammer and God gave it me.
                      That's nice.

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                      • Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        The answer is logical: something that doesn't exist is not here to do anything,
                        which include the ability to know, or not know.
                        Once again, you're still clinging to the same error to which you've been clinging all along. You are imagining, against truth, that your phrase, "something that doesn't exist", is meaningful. To be referred to is to be, and to be is to exist, and so, if something is being referred to by your phrase, "something that doesn't exist", then the thing you are calling "something that doesn't exist" is something that does exist.

                        The fool hath said in his heart, "There is no God." One elementary thing about saying that that makes the fool a fool is the simple fact that he/she has just called something, or someone,"God", and yet, has denied that the something he/she called "God" exists. To call something, or someone, "God", is for that something, or someone, to exist; that is, for something, or someone, to be called "God" is for that something, or someone, to be--to exist.

                        Are you referring to something, or not, by your phrase "something that doesn't exist"? If you are referring to something by it, then you are (of necessity) referring, by it, to something that does exist. And, it seems rather silly to refer to something that exists by a phrase like "something that doesn't exist" rather than by a phrase like "something that does exist".

                        If you're not referring to something, then you're not stating truth.

                        Also, to be "not here to do anything" is to be, and to be is to exist. Whatever is "not here to do anything" is something that exists.

                        Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        You're the one who loves playing with words - and it caught up with you. :shrug:
                        By "playing with words", you mean "asking people questions which are inexorably embarrassing to their cherished falsehoods".

                        Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        Not only do you insist on your irrational argument (despite the clear, logical explanation given).......either you're being obtuse about it, or it's really sailing way over your head.........
                        Another meaningless phrase: "irrational argument". No argument is irrational; you hand me something that's irrational, and what you've handed me is not an argument.

                        Again, you've explained nothing;

                        Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        .....but obviously, you can't keep a discussion without resorting to personal attacks.
                        I simply told you the truth when I called you a weasel. That's what you've been doing, persistently: trying to weasel yourself out of answering the questions I asked you. Even in your last post (#258) you are still being a weasel. You call truth-telling "resorting to personal attacks".


                        Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        Well it's said the first one to throw a personal attack is the one who loses the argument.......nothing more for me to say.
                        Even in your own eyes you have lost, since, as you and I both know, you have needed, persistently, to stonewall against the questions I have asked you. You and I both know that you're not in the least satisfied with your performance, yet, what other choice do you have, so long as you stubbornly cling to your irrational mindset.

                        Originally posted by betsy123 View Post
                        This so-called discussion between us has really sunk down to an "idle talk."
                        Before we say anything more we'd regret, I'm bowing out of it.
                        You already weaseled your way out of it from the get-go; and, your performance never really sunk down at all, but simply started out, and remained, at a low level. The posts you have written in reaction to my posts, have, indeed, been almost exclusively comprised of idle talk.

                        Again, betsy123, here are some of the questions against which you have been stonewalling:
                        • Is God able to know that you, betsy123, are wiser than God? Yes or No?
                        • Is God able to know that you, betsy123, are holier than God? Yes or No?
                        • Is God able to know that you, betsy123, are mightier than God? Yes or No?
                        • Is God able to know that you, betsy123, created the heaven and the earth? Yes or No?


                        You don't answer these questions, you lose the debate.
                        You answer "No" to these questions, you answer correctly, but you still, equally, lose the debate.
                        All my ancestors are human.
                        PS: All your ancestors are human.
                        PPS: To all you cats, dogs, monkeys, and other assorted house pets whose masters are outsourcing the task of TOL post-writing to you (we know who you are )– you may disregard the PS.

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                        • Originally posted by JudgeRightly View Post
                          That's nice.

                          Was that Intojoy?
                          My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                          Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                          Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                          Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                          No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                          Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                          ? Yep

                          Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                          ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                          Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                          • Originally posted by MennoSota View Post
                            Yes, Jesus is God.
                            Those who say otherwise are the people Peter warns against.
                            2 Peter 2:1
                            But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you, who will secretly bring in destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing upon themselves swift destruction.
                            Peter made it clear that Jesus is not God, but rather a man approved of God, in Acts 2

                            Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:

                            Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:

                            24 Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.

                            25 For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:

                            26 Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:

                            27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.

                            This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.

                            Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.

                            34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,

                            35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.

                            36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
                            "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

                            "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

                            Pro scripture = Protestant

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                            • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                              Was that Intojoy?
                              No idea.

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                              • Originally posted by Lon View Post
                                Was that Intojoy?
                                good call

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