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  • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
    Do you know that the verse you just quoted was taken out of context by the Apostle Paul when he used it to defend the false doctrine of original sin? Yeah. You can find it for yourself.

    Romans chapter 3 verse 10 says, "As it is written: “There is none righteous, no, not one;"

    This was drawn from earlier scriptures like Psalm 14:3 which states, "The Lord looks down from heaven upon the children of men,To see if there are any who understand, who seek God. They have all turned aside,They have together become corrupt;There is none who does good,
    No, not one."

    But this was taken out of context, because the context of the religious song was the wicked people, who do not seek God. It doesn't claim that all people are unjust, wicked, or unrighteous, because earlier in the work of the Psalms, God through the Holy Spirit praised the people who are righteous and seek good.

    Here is Psalm chapter 1 to confirm the statement I just made, and supported with bible.

    "Blessed is the man
    Who walks not in the counsel of the [a]ungodly,
    Nor stands in the path of sinners,
    Nor sits in the seat of the scornful;
    2 But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
    And in His law he [b]meditates day and night.
    3 He shall be like a tree
    Planted by the [c]rivers of water,
    That brings forth its fruit in its season,
    Whose leaf also shall not wither;
    And whatever he does shall prosper.

    4 The ungodly are not so,
    But are like the chaff which the wind drives away.
    5 Therefore the ungodly shall not stand in the judgment,
    Nor sinners in the congregation of the righteous.

    6 For the Lord knows the way of the righteous,
    But the way of the ungodly shall perish.
    "

    I purposely bolded the last part for emphasis.
    What you have said here sounds good to me so far. I do not believe that he took it out of context, but I know of what you are talking about. Psalm 1 is good too.

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    • Originally posted by k0de View Post
      [/B]You are unconsciously quoting scriptures. It is evident that God (Jesus) is preparing you to be a powerful vessel for His Church. Continue with your study and research of different religions. And some day I believe that you will surrender to the Lord Jesus Christ and preach His living Word the Bible.

      Did I just prophesied?

      Alleluia!

      Guyver I don't have to write down the passages or verses or numbers it's already in heart and it shows. And you said that you are an expert in scriptures. So you should know where to look.

      Until when will you continue resisting the call of the Holy Ghost?
      May peace be with you Brother KOde.

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      • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
        Well, that's one way of seeing it. Here's another.

        It would be untruthful to believe God unrighteous because he could not be. It is his nature to be right, not wrong. It is his nature to be good, not evil. It is his nature to be just; not unjust.

        To hold someone accountable for a sin that they never committed would be unrighteous, even as holding you guilty and punishing you with death for a sin that you did not commit. Like, if you have a son and he murders someone. It would be unjust and unlawful to punish you for the crime he committed.
        Elohim is Good. He is intrinsically Good and cannot be judged by your carnal mind.
        At the end of the first day, he saw what He had done and declared it good. He has said the same thing at the end of each and every day since because it is His work and by nature, it is all a good work.
        I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

        "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

        I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
        A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
        If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

        Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

        I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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        • PS ...and for His glory, Amen.
          I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

          "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

          I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
          A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
          If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

          Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

          I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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          • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
            When I do good I feel good, and when I do bad, I feel bad. And that is my religion.
            First you say and then you say,

            Originally posted by Guyver View Post
            I believe that God is love and love always seeks the good of another, and not its harm. Love does not violate its nature, nor can it according to my beliefs, because that would be reprehensible and unnecessary.
            Which one is it?

            Consider your religion 2,000 years from now. The list of contradictions probably will a mile long. Much longer than your arm[emoji3].

            You just quoted the second greatest commandment unconsciously.

            Observe, Leviticus 19:18. Aside from loving God, this is the cardinal point of all the laws and personal holiness. It is the corrective to all the previous negative behaviors. In the nt, Jesus quotes this as the second greatest of all the commandments (Matt 22:39; Mark 12:31).

            And I know you know the greatest of all.

            Consider yourself blessed because the Lord have blessed you with a mighty computer on your shoulders. Not many men have this. So repent and receive the power of the Holy Ghost.

            The Lord is waiting for you with open arms you prodigal son....

            May peace be with you also Brother!
            Last edited by k0de; April 17, 2019, 12:04 PM.
            Abraham did not do such things.... (John 8:40)

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            • Brother kOde, I want to respond to your post above and the one you made earlier, but not quote them. First of all, I want to tell you that I believe in you 100 percent because I know you have the peace and love of God. Not many have this. I want to say that I understand that what you said is love as you know it and I gladly receive it, and send Gods love and peace back to your soul.

              But here’s the thing. I already believe brother. I have a relationship with God by faith.

              You graciously and respectfully offered that I would be a great witness for the Lord. But I will tell you that while I don’t like to speak about myself much...I am witnessing for the Lord right now. I witness for the Lord by speaking the truth and walking in love. As best I can, being a man.

              Anyway, I believe differently than you do, and most everyone else on this site most likely. I am very different in my beliefs about God and the other people around here. I know this. It is what it is, because I have been on my journey for truth a long time and it has not been an easy road. At all.

              But God is good, so I’m good with it. I have so much more to learn myself, and I’m happy to share what I have learned because wisdom is worth something.

              TBC

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              • KOde, you said I was instinctively quoting some scriptures....it wasn’t instinct, it was on purpose because I believe it.

                There are many things in the Bible I believe in, and those ideas have helped shape my faith and beliefs. I will be happy to share them here in this thread about my religion, and discuss them. It is my pleasure. I love the Lord. God is great. I just hate to say it that way because it sounds so Muslim. No disrespect to the Muslims, it just that their extremists have so completely discolored me to their faith....I just have a hard time with it. They oppress women intentionally, and that is wrong brother.

                Anyway, I’ll post here when I can and time permits to express my beliefs so you and anyone else who wishes to hear it may listen and hopefully understand me better.

                I have no doubt that Christians here will be judging me, as they already have been. Which is actually more of shame for them because they don’t even follow their leader Jesus who said not to do it. But whatever, false judgment don’t phase me in the slightest.

                There’s three people in my life who’s opinion of me actually has extreme value.

                1. God

                2. Myself

                3. My wife.

                I care what God thinks of me, not what other people think God thinks of me. Peace. I may be able to post tomorrow.

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                • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                  Secondly, if you think the devil has me decieved, I humbly ask you to place me on ignore, and never read another word I say.
                  So... self-deceived it is.
                  "That man of sin must first be revealed." -- Jesus

                  If you haven't tried: you've already failed. -- Aimiel

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                  • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                    Brother kOde, I want to respond to your post above and the one you made earlier, but not quote them. First of all, I want to tell you that I believe in you 100 percent because I know you have the peace and love of God. Not many have this.
                    Thank you

                    Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                    I want to say that I understand that what you said is love as you know it and I gladly receive it, and send Gods love and peace back to your soul.

                    But here’s the thing. I already believe brother. I have a relationship with God by faith.
                    And I believe that also. By the way that you speak I can tell.

                    Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                    You graciously and respectfully offered that I would be a great witness for the Lord. But I will tell you that while I don’t like to speak about myself much...I am witnessing for the Lord right now. I witness for the Lord by speaking the truth and walking in love. As best I can, being a man.
                    But sometimes things you say don't seem that way.

                    Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                    Anyway, I believe differently than you do, and most everyone else on this site most likely. I am very different in my beliefs about God and the other people around here. I know this. It is what it is, because I have been on my journey for truth a long time and it has not been an easy road. At all.
                    Agree! Everyone is coming with different Believes. It's very important we focus on Jesus around here and not man made doctrines.

                    Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                    But God is good, so I’m good with it. I have so much more to learn myself, and I’m happy to share what I have learned because wisdom is worth something.

                    TBC
                    Yes, God is good all the time. You have a ton of wisdom. And I'm waiting to hear something from you. But what you have posted this far about the Bible are all negativity. The good of the Bible out weighs the bad. Let's hear it. And I know by the way that you speak there is a ton of good about the Bible waiting to leave your mouth.
                    Last edited by k0de; April 17, 2019, 12:57 PM.
                    Abraham did not do such things.... (John 8:40)

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                    • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                      KOde, you said I was instinctively quoting some scriptures....it wasn’t instinct, it was on purpose because I believe it.
                      "There is a difference between wishing for a thing and being ready to receive it. No one is ready for a thing until he believes he can acquire it. The state of mind must be belief, not mere hope or wish. Open-mindedness is essential for belief. Closed minds do not inspire faith, courage, and belief." (NPH)

                      I know you do.

                      Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                      There are many things in the Bible I believe in, and those ideas have helped shape my faith and beliefs. I will be happy to share them here in this thread about my religion, and discuss them. It is my pleasure. I love the Lord. God is great. I just hate to say it that way because it sounds so Muslim. No disrespect to the Muslims, it just that their extremists have so completely discolored me to their faith....I just have a hard time with it. They oppress women intentionally, and that is wrong brother.
                      I know. I still read the Koran, book of Mormon, the watch tower, budism, and all Christians demolitions, atheism, christlogy, etc, etc. But to this day ten years later I settled with the Bible and Jesus only. Yes, I love the Lord Jesus too.

                      Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                      Anyway, I’ll post here when I can and time permits to express my beliefs so you and anyone else who wishes to hear it may listen and hopefully understand me better.
                      Thanks I'm looking forward to learn from you from the Lord.

                      Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                      I have no doubt that Christians here will be judging me, as they already have been. Which is actually more of shame for them because they don’t even follow their leader Jesus who said not to do it. But whatever, false judgment don’t phase me in the slightest.

                      There’s three people in my life who’s opinion of me actually has extreme value.

                      1. God

                      2. Myself

                      3. My wife.

                      I care what God thinks of me, not what other people think God thinks of me. Peace. I may be able to post tomorrow.
                      There you go. That's right God first everything else follows. Everyone opinions doesn't matter. Amen!

                      Peace on to you and your family Brother Guyver.
                      Last edited by k0de; April 17, 2019, 01:02 PM.
                      Abraham did not do such things.... (John 8:40)

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                      • Originally posted by Aimiel View Post
                        So... self-deceived it is.
                        What do you know of self-deception Aimiel? I’m very interested in hearing what you’ve learned about it since you didn’t place me on ignore.

                        I’d also like to know how you came up with that judgement; since you consider me self-deceived.

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                        • Originally posted by k0de View Post

                          Yes, God is good all the time. You have a ton of wisdom. And I'm waiting to hear something from you. But what you have posted this far about the Bible are all negativity. The good of the Bible out weighs the bad. Let's hear it. And I know by the way that you speak there is a ton of good about the Bible waiting to leave your mouth.
                          My pleasure. I think the greatest statement in the Bible is from 1 John 4 which states God is love. That present tense verse implies not only that Gods nature is love, but that is his always present nature. IOW, since God is love, he is always that and never anything else.

                          Right behind that is 1 Cor 13, which exactly states just what love is, how it is expressed, manifested, demonstrated; in short.....what love DOES.

                          So, there’s two things from the Bible that I believe, respect, and have incorporated into my religion Brother KOde.

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                          • Originally posted by Jacob View Post
                            What you have said here sounds good to me so far. I do not believe that he took it out of context, but I know of what you are talking about. Psalm 1 is good too.
                            You're correct. Paul didn't take it out of context, but people who read what Paul write do. They should read the Psalm (which Paul knew AND UNDERSTOOD), then Paul's words would make perfect sense.

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                            • Originally posted by Guyver View Post
                              That's one religious interpretation.

                              Another one is that the doctrine of original sin is a false doctrine. It's certainly not something Jesus agreed with. Jesus, like David and Solomon, earlier bible writers than the Apostle Paul, believed that there were two kinds of people in the world. The good and the bad. The righteous and the unrighteous, the just and the unjust. He showed that little children were not born in original sin by stating that they are children of God, and they have angels in heaven.

                              The fact that people are born both good and bad, goes back to the story of the first two people ever born naturally....the sons of Adam. One, Cain was evil, and other Abel was righteous.

                              In Matthew chapter 23 verse 35, Jesus himself said Abel was righteous. In Matthew chapter nine, Jesus said, "But go and learn what this means: ‘I desire mercy and not sacrifice.’ For I did not come to call the righteous, but sinners, to repentance.”

                              Thus indicating that there were both righteous people and sinful people that exist in the world. If all the world were evil sinners, then Jesus would have said so. But he did not.

                              So, Jesus and Paul disagree about the doctrine of original sin....according to the bible.
                              Good post.

                              Paul did not promote the doctrine of original sin, but his words have been twisted by many to claim he did.

                              A worthy discussion to be had there.

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                              • Originally posted by k0de View Post
                                Yes, God is good all the time.
                                I think this is so true, it bears repeating. God really does have to be good, all the time to be God. Otherwise, we’d be in hell with the devil.

                                You have a ton of wisdom. And I'm waiting to hear something from you. But what you have posted this far about the Bible are all negativity.
                                Yes. What you have said is true, and I do have many criticism about the Bible. And I have thought that I shouldn’t say them because of the people here and out of respect their right to believe. So, I’ve tried to tone it down and I haven’t broken out heavy artillary.

                                The Bible does not work for me as the sole basis of my faith. The Bible is unfortunately too self-contradictory to be helpful. A person must pick and choose from the Bible because it says different things about the same things.

                                Additionally, I have found many factual errors in the Bible, and this makes it unreliable as a sole testimony of truth, IMO.

                                Truth is not something that has to be wondered about or disagreed with. That’s what makes truth so beautiful.

                                Did you know the Bible says God is truth? It’s true. The Bible describes God nature as truth.

                                So, that’s another thing from the Bible I believe in kOde.

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