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    I wrote this earlier in response to an article that was brought to my attention. On reflection it also describes Adam and in him the human race being held in the captivity of sin.


    They were in captivity

    and yet called a pride

    I saw no dignity

    no honour

    or satisfaction
    
in their demeanour
.
    Misery

    gloom
    
melancholy
    
sadness

    and disgrace

    are the words
    I’d use to describe
    
those once noble beasts

    a "misery of lions".

    Stripped of their nobility.
    ………..
    I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

    "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

    I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
    A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
    If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

    Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

    I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

  • #2
    Well, we were certainly stripped of our nobility. By the Spanish, in the expulsion of 1492. We should get reinstated.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by chair View Post
      Well, we were certainly stripped of our nobility. By the Spanish, in the expulsion of 1492. We should get reinstated.
      Perhaps the Assyrians should make retribution for their atrocities, as well?
      How about the Romans? Or those ruthless Babylonians?
      etc.
      etc.
      etc.
      etc.
      boo-hoo
      Last edited by beameup; April 14, 2017, 05:55 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by chair View Post
        Well, we were certainly stripped of our nobility. By the Spanish, in the expulsion of 1492. We should get reinstated.
        You both hate and mock the truth as usual.
        I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

        "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

        I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
        A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
        If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

        Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

        I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by beameup View Post
          Perhaps the Assyrians should make retribution for their atrocities, as well?
          How about the Romans? Or those ruthless Babylonians?
          etc.
          etc.
          etc.
          etc.
          boo-hoo
          Fanatics don't have a sense of humor.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Truster View Post
            You both hate and mock the truth as usual.
            TSk tsk. Touchy today.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by chair View Post
              Fanatics don't have a sense of humor.
              We tend to take piety seriously and according to the scriptures we hate mockers as they are enemies to truth and the Messiah.As you have proven time after time.
              I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

              "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

              I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
              A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
              If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

              Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

              I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Truster View Post
                We tend to take piety seriously and according to the scriptures we hate mockers as they are enemies to truth and the Messiah.As you have proven time after time.
                He's just a "non-religious" Jew.... whatever that means

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by beameup View Post
                  He's just a "non-religious" Jew.... whatever that means
                  You seem to express opinions on things you don't comprehend..."by your words ye shall be judged".
                  I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                  "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                  I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                  A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                  If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                  Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                  I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Truster View Post
                    You seem to express opinions on things you don't comprehend..."by your words ye shall be judged".
                    Yes, it's all cryptic.

                    Like this:
                    Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beameup View Post
                      Yes, it's all cryptic.

                      Like this:
                      Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life. John 5:24
                      You quote the scriptures, but you don't love the truth, nor those that speak the truth. You are of the same spirit as the pharisees and scribes. The Apostles faced more violent persecution from proselytes than any others. You are a proselyte.
                      You didn't enter by the gate, but by another way.Your attempt at religion only stands until confronted by truth and the manner in which you respond to truth proves that you are under an energised delusion and that you have been caused to believe the delusion.

                      In this I rejoice in both the wisdom and power of the Eternal Almighty.


                      "And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. And for this cause Elohim shall send them a strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:"
                      I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                      "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                      I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                      A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                      If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                      Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                      I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Truster View Post
                        They were in captivity

                        and yet called a pride

                        I saw no dignity

                        no honour

                        or satisfaction
                        
in their demeanour
.
                        Misery

                        gloom
                        
melancholy
                        
sadness

                        and disgrace

                        are the words
                        I’d use to describe
                        
those once noble beasts

                        a "misery of lions".

                        Stripped of their nobility.
                        ………..
                        You "quote" cryptic nonsense
                        I quote God's Holy Scripture

                        In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being. In Him was life, and the life was the Light of men. - John 1:1-4

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beameup View Post
                          You "quote" cryptic nonsense
                          I quote God's Holy Scripture
                          You choose to avoid any mention of:

                          I wrote this earlier in response to an article that was brought to my attention. On reflection it also describes Adam and in him the human race being held in the captivity of sin.

                          The spiritual man is spiritual in all things. The natural man has not the Spirit and cannot see or comprehend those things the Holy Spirit teaches us* by.

                          Us* those that have received precious trust.
                          I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                          "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                          I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                          A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                          If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                          Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                          I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Truster View Post
                            Us* those that have received precious trust.
                            Gnosticism - "we have secret knowledge"

                            Howbeit when He, the Holy Spirit of Truth, is come, He will guide you into all truth: for He shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever He shall hear, that shall He speak: and He will show you things to come. - John 16:13

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by beameup View Post
                              Gnosticism - "we have secret knowledge"
                              I was quoting Peter actually, but I wouldn't expect you to recognise nor rejoice in the scripture.


                              “If he is cursing because Yah Veh said to him, ‘Curse David,’ who can ask, ‘Why do you do this?’”
                              I know Him, correctly, as Messiah whom you call Christ. Yah Shua whom you call Jesus. Messianists who you call Christians.

                              "Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm".

                              I refuse, point blank, to speak peace to the unregenerate, hypocrites, religious dogma lovers and those that oppose the following statement:
                              A regenerate man trusts in the evangelism of salvation conditioned on the atoning blood and imputed justness of Messiah alone.
                              If you are fully persuaded, by experience, of this delightful, beautiful and life giving doctrine then I love you as a brother.

                              Anyone who thinks that salvation is conditioned on anything a man thinks, does or says is atheist. I cannot and will not speak peace to him or her.

                              I don't make statements online that I wouldn't repeat in front of my Maker, my grandmother or a judge.

                              Comment

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