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    One God
    Joshua 22:22
    The Mighty One, God, the Lord! The Mighty One, God, the Lord! He knows! And let Israel know! If this has been in rebellion or disobedience to the Lord, do not spare us this day.

    Psalm 50:1
    The Mighty One, God, the Lord, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to where it sets.

    Malachi 2:10
    Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?

    Malachi 2:15
    Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.

    Romans 3:30
    since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.

    1 Corinthians 8:6
    yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.

    Ephesians 4:6
    one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

    1 Timothy 2:5
    For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,

    James 2:19
    You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.


    If God was a Trinity, scriptures would say so.

  • #2
    Originally posted by CherubRam View Post
    If God was a Trinity, scriptures would say so.
    who did Jesus pray to?
    and
    is Jesus God?
    a voice crying in the wilderness :chrysost:

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    • #3
      Of course God is one, Jesus prayed, "That they all may be one as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be one in Us that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John 17:21 NKJV)

      According to Jesus' prayer we are all one in the spiritual unity of them.

      E pluribus unum.

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      • #4
        Jesus said that we have the very same God and the very same Father that He does.

        John 20:17
        17 Jesus said to her, "Do not cling to Me, for I have not yet ascended to My Father; but go to My brethren and say to them, 'I am ascending to My Father and your Father, and to My God and your God.'"
        (NKJ)

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        • #5
          Trinity denial. How original. I can tell you're a bright guy. Another fascinating thread.

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          • #6
            Let the truth ring out, the Father is the only true God.
            Psalm 1[/COLOR] and Job 28:28

            Rev 22:14 Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.

            Joh 4:23 "But an hour is coming, and now is, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth; for such people the Father seeks to be His worshipers.

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            • #7
              I will keep my eye on this thread. If the posts start ranging into blasphemy, it will too get locked.

              June is Gay Pride Month.Tolerance and diversity? ☞ More like tolerate perversity.☠

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Sherman View Post
                I will keep my eye on this thread. If the posts start ranging into blasphemy, it will too get locked.
                There needs to be a Beating Dead Horses category. Or True Confessions category, for threads like, "I was a teenage Jehovah's Witness."

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by chrysostom View Post
                  who did Jesus pray to?
                  and
                  is Jesus God?
                  Yahshua prayed to his God, just like we do, and he said that he was a god from heaven.

                  John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

                  My God
                  John 20:17
                  Jesus said, “Do not cling to me, for I have yet to ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

                  Revelation 3:2
                  Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have found your deeds unfinished in the sight of my God.

                  Revelation 3:12
                  The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by jamie View Post
                    Of course God is one, Jesus prayed, "That they all may be one as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be one in Us that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John 17:21 NKJV)

                    According to Jesus' prayer we are all one in the spiritual unity of them.

                    E pluribus unum.
                    It is a certainty that Yahshua was speaking of unity when he speaks of being ONE.

                    John 17:11
                    I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.


                    John 17:22
                    I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one—

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by CherubRam View Post
                      Yahshua prayed to his God, just like we do, and he said that he was a god from heaven.

                      John 10:36 what about the one whom the Father set apart as his very own and sent into the world?

                      My God
                      John 20:17
                      Jesus said, “Do not cling to me, for I have yet to ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’”

                      Revelation 3:2
                      Wake up! Strengthen what remains and is about to die, for I have found your deeds unfinished in the sight of my God.

                      Revelation 3:12
                      The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name.
                      Well said. Do you see this chrisostom?
                      If you want to be true to God and Jesus, abandon any kind of violence at all cost. By advocating any kind of violence, you are misrepresenting Christianity.

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                      • #12
                        God if One.

                        Originally posted by jamie View Post
                        Of course God is one, Jesus prayed, "That they all may be one as You, Father, are in Me and I in You, that they also may be one in Us that the world may believe that You sent Me." (John 17:21 NKJV)

                        According to Jesus' prayer we are all one in the spiritual unity of them.

                        E pluribus unum.
                        You are contradicting yourself Jamie. God cannot be One that way. God is absolutely One no matter what. That's how:

                        The Absolute Oneness of God.

                        Isaiah says that, absolutely, God cannot be compared with anyone or anything, as we read Isaiah 46:5. "To whom will ye liken Me, and make Me equal to , or compare Me with, that we may be alike?"

                        Therefore, more than one God would have been unable to produce the world; one would have impeded the work of the other, unless this could be avoided by a suitable division of labor.

                        More than one Divine Being would have one element in common, and would differ in another; each would thus consist of two elements, and would not be God.

                        More than one God are moved to action by will; the will, without a substratum, could not act simultaneously in more than one being.

                        Therefore, the existence of one God is proved; the existence of more than one God cannot be proved. One could suggest that it would be possible; but since as possibility is inapplicable to God, there does not exist more than one God. So, the possibility of ascertaining the existence of God is here confounded with potentiality of existence.

                        Again, if one God suffices, a second or third God would be superfluous; if one God is not sufficient, he is not perfect, and cannot be a deity.

                        Now, besides being God absolutely One, He is incorporeal. If God were corporeal, He would consist of atoms, and would not be one; or he would be comparable to other beings; but a comparison implies the existence of similar and of dissimilar elements, and God would thus not be One. A corporeal God would be finite, and an external power would be required to define those limits.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by CherubRam View Post
                          One God

                          Joshua 22:22

                          The Mighty One, God, the Lord! The Mighty One, God, the Lord! He knows! And let Israel know! If this has been in rebellion or disobedience to the Lord, do not spare us this day.



                          Psalm 50:1

                          The Mighty One, God, the Lord, speaks and summons the earth from the rising of the sun to where it sets.



                          Malachi 2:10

                          Do we not all have one Father? Did not one God create us? Why do we profane the covenant of our ancestors by being unfaithful to one another?



                          Malachi 2:15

                          Has not the one God made you? You belong to him in body and spirit. And what does the one God seek? Godly offspring. So be on your guard, and do not be unfaithful to the wife of your youth.



                          Romans 3:30

                          since there is only one God, who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through that same faith.



                          1 Corinthians 8:6

                          yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live.



                          Ephesians 4:6

                          one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.



                          1 Timothy 2:5

                          For there is one God and one mediator between God and mankind, the man Christ Jesus,



                          James 2:19

                          You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.





                          If God was a Trinity, scriptures would say so.

                          The Bible Does say so. First, There are people who believe the Trinity is from pagan religions lol. Well, the pagans believed in a Triad of gods. They were polytheists. That means they believed in three main gods (Triad) who were completely separate beings. And they ruled over the rest of the gods.
                          The Trinity is 1 God with three persons-The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit that are equal in essence and nature as One God. And they rule over No other gods as there's only one God. Unlike JW where there are at least two (The God and a god) so the Trinity has less gods then The Watchtower. We have One-The Trinity. And the Bible clearly states in the Trinity, so it's not from "outside pagan religions."
                          For example, Peter refers to the saints who have been chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God The Father." (1 Peter 1:2) when Jesus made a post resurrection appearance to Thomas, the disciple worshipfully responded by addressing Him, "My Lord and MY GOD." (John 20:28) The Father also said of the Son, "Your throne O God, is forever and ever." In Acts 5:3-4, we are told that lying to the Holy Spirit is equivalent to lying to God. Peter said,"Ananias, why has satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit,,, You have not lied to men but to God."
                          Besides being called God, each of the three persons are seen on different occasions to possess the attributes of deity. Note the following examples:
                          All three persons possess the attribute of omnipresence:
                          The Father (1 Kings 8:27)
                          The Son (Matthew 28:20)
                          The Holy Spirit (psalm 139:7)
                          All three have the attribute of omniscience:
                          The Father (psalm 147:5)
                          The Son (John 16:30)
                          The Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10)
                          All three have the attribute of omnipotence:
                          The Father (Psalm 135:6)
                          The Son (Matthew 28:18)
                          The Holy Spirit (Romans 15:19)
                          Holiness is ascribed to each of the three persons:
                          The Father (Revelation 15:4)
                          The Son (Acts 3:14)
                          The Holy Spirit (Romans 1:4)
                          Eternity is ascribed to each of the three persons:
                          The Father (Psalm 90:2)
                          The Son (Micah 5:2, John 1:4)
                          The Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14)
                          Each if the three persons is described as the Truth:
                          The Father (John 7:28)
                          The Son (Revelation 3:7)
                          The Holy Spirit (1 John 5:6)
                          Each of the three is called Lord (Luke 2:11, Romans 10:12, 2 Corinthians 3:17) each is called Everlasting (Romans 16:26, Hebrews 9:14, Revelation 22:13) each is called Almighty (Genesis 17:1, Romans 15:19, Revelation 1:8) and each is called Powerful (Jeremiah 32:17, Zechariah 4:6, Hebrews 1:3)
                          Can any one other than God have the Attributes of God?
                          In addition to having the attributes of deity, each of the three persons were involved in doing the works of deity. For example, all three were involved in the creation of the world:
                          The Father (Genesis 2:7, Psalm 102:25, 1 Corinthians 8:6)
                          The Son (John 1:3, Colossians 1;16, Hebrews 1:2)
                          The Holy Spirit (Genesis 1:2, Job 33:4, Psalm 104:30)
                          They were also involved in the incarnation and resurrection but I won't go into those verses as I think these are good for now.
                          Also to mention, that the pagans taught the concept of a flood that killed most of humankind and the concept of a messiah like figure named Tammuz who was allegedly resurrected. Are those concepts false just because pagans taught remotely similar accounts?
                          And if you still don't understand the Trinity, does it mean it's not True? I mean do you think it is possible for human beings to know everything about God? If yes, please explain Isaiah 55:8-9, Romans 11:33, and 1 Corinthians 13:12.
                          We should not reject a doctrine simply because we cannot fully comprehend it. Especially since it's in the Bible

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JFish123 View Post
                            The Bible Does say so. First, There are people who believe the Trinity is from pagan religions lol. Well, the pagans believed in a Triad of gods. They were polytheists. That means they believed in three main gods (Triad) who were completely separate beings. And they ruled over the rest of the gods.
                            The Trinity is 1 God with three persons-The Father, The Son, and The Holy Spirit that are equal in essence and nature as One God. And they rule over No other gods as there's only one God. Unlike JW where there are at least two (The God and a god) so the Trinity has less gods then The Watchtower. We have One-The Trinity. And the Bible clearly states in the Trinity, so it's not from "outside pagan religions."
                            For example, Peter refers to the saints who have been chosen "according to the foreknowledge of God The Father." (1 Peter 1:2) when Jesus made a post resurrection appearance to Thomas, the disciple worshipfully responded by addressing Him, "My Lord and MY GOD." (John 20:28) The Father also said of the Son, "Your throne O God, is forever and ever." In Acts 5:3-4, we are told that lying to the Holy Spirit is equivalent to lying to God. Peter said,"Ananias, why has satan filled your heart to lie to the Holy Spirit,,, You have not lied to men but to God."
                            Besides being called God, each of the three persons are seen on different occasions to possess the attributes of deity. Note the following examples:
                            All three persons possess the attribute of omnipresence:
                            The Father (1 Kings 8:27)
                            The Son (Matthew 28:20)
                            The Holy Spirit (psalm 139:7)
                            All three have the attribute of omniscience:
                            The Father (psalm 147:5)
                            The Son (John 16:30)
                            The Holy Spirit (1 Corinthians 2:10)
                            All three have the attribute of omnipotence:
                            The Father (Psalm 135:6)
                            The Son (Matthew 28:18)
                            The Holy Spirit (Romans 15:19)
                            Holiness is ascribed to each of the three persons:
                            The Father (Revelation 15:4)
                            The Son (Acts 3:14)
                            The Holy Spirit (Romans 1:4)
                            Eternity is ascribed to each of the three persons:
                            The Father (Psalm 90:2)
                            The Son (Micah 5:2, John 1:4)
                            The Holy Spirit (Hebrews 9:14)
                            Each if the three persons is described as the Truth:
                            The Father (John 7:28)
                            The Son (Revelation 3:7)
                            The Holy Spirit (1 John 5:6)
                            Each of the three is called Lord (Luke 2:11, Romans 10:12, 2 Corinthians 3:17) each is called Everlasting (Romans 16:26, Hebrews 9:14, Revelation 22:13) each is called Almighty (Genesis 17:1, Romans 15:19, Revelation 1:8) and each is called Powerful (Jeremiah 32:17, Zechariah 4:6, Hebrews 1:3)
                            Can any one other than God have the Attributes of God?
                            In addition to having the attributes of deity, each of the three persons were involved in doing the works of deity. For example, all three were involved in the creation of the world:
                            The Father (Genesis 2:7, Psalm 102:25, 1 Corinthians 8:6)
                            The Son (John 1:3, Colossians 1;16, Hebrews 1:2)
                            The Holy Spirit (Genesis 1:2, Job 33:4, Psalm 104:30)
                            They were also involved in the incarnation and resurrection but I won't go into those verses as I think these are good for now.
                            Also to mention, that the pagans taught the concept of a flood that killed most of humankind and the concept of a messiah like figure named Tammuz who was allegedly resurrected. Are those concepts false just because pagans taught remotely similar accounts?
                            And if you still don't understand the Trinity, does it mean it's not True? I mean do you think it is possible for human beings to know everything about God? If yes, please explain Isaiah 55:8-9, Romans 11:33, and 1 Corinthians 13:12.
                            We should not reject a doctrine simply because we cannot fully comprehend it. Especially since it's in the Bible
                            The Pagan trinities are also one God revealed in three persons. There are historical facts showing that the scriptures have been changed to prove a trinity. Trinitarianism is not over peoples heads. If God was a trinity He would have said so, but He says of Himself, that He alone is God. That would exclude any trinity notions. Otherwise He would have said, WE alone are God.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by CherubRam View Post
                              The Pagan trinities are also one God revealed in three persons. There are historical facts showing that the scriptures have been changed to prove a trinity. Trinitarianism is not over peoples heads. If God was a trinity He would have said so, but He says of Himself, that He alone is God. That would exclude any trinity notions. Otherwise He would have said, WE alone are God.

                              Well what historical "proof" demonstrates the bible was changed to support a trinity? I gave you dozens of scripture showing the bible promotes a trinity. Were all those scriptures changed then? Cause I have more.

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