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  • Originally posted by aikido7 View Post
    I could care less. After I die it will be the greatest adventure of my life or it will be absolutely nothing.

    Jesus didn't care about heaven.

    It was in good shape and could take care of itself.

    Jesus preached the Kingdom of God on earth as it is in heaven. The earth is where the problems are.
    But it happens that the heaven he talked about was akin to a peaceful state of mind one is supposed to allow within oneself if you read Luke 17:21 as in "The Kingdom of Heaven is within you."

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    • Originally posted by Omniskeptical View Post
      YOU ARE THE CYNICAL ONE WHO DOESN'T BELIEVE GOD AWAKES THE DEAD. The burden of proof is on your cynicism.
      You are simply telling me that Jesus was a cynical Jew because, as a Jew, he also did not believe in bodily resurrection. Unless you are talking about a Greek Jesus and not a Jewish one.

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      • Originally posted by Omniskeptical View Post
        No, you are the gullible one who thinks God has something against dead people.
        You didn't even read the name of the poster and gave answer as if he was I. Poor Omniskeptical! No, God has nothing against the dead, good or evil. He is just not a God for the dead but only for the living if you read Mark 12:27.

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        • Originally posted by Omniskeptical View Post
          Yes, it is, dork. What do you the mark was? Yeah, it said, have compassion on me, I am a murderer. SARCASM!!
          If it is, quote it! Don't tell me you want me to accept your word for it! I already find too hard to take people's word for it.

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          • Originally posted by JPHamilton View Post
            Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. (*James‬ *2‬:*24‬ KJV)
            Romans 5:1

            James 2:24

            There is a huge difference between temporary justification and eternal justification

            Man may have been able to temporarily justify himself under the law of Moses, but the animal sacrifices for sin were still necessary.

            Our justification is by the works and sacrifice of the son of God, there is no longer any need for our works to justify us.

            However, our justification by God's work in Christ implies that we should live accordingly and live a life that glorifies God for having justly justified us

            We should be thankful to God for our justification and thus live/walk worthy of that.
            "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

            "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

            Pro scripture = Protestant

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            • Originally posted by Ben Masada View Post
              You didn't even read the name of the poster and gave answer as if he was I. Poor Omniskeptical! No, God has nothing against the dead, good or evil. He is just not a God for the dead but only for the living if you read Mark 12:27.
              But you don't believe God delivers on the afterlife.
              John 1:1-2 εν αρχη ην ο λογος At the beginning, it was a word; και ο λογος ην προς ο θεος and a word, it was unto a God; και θεος ην ο λογος and the God, it was.. A word 2 ουτος a-such... 2 ην εν αρχη προς ο θεος ... it was at the beginning unto a God.

              Yahweh is a word of God, not just Christ!

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              • Yes.

                John 14:1-4 King James Version (KJV)

                1 Let not your heart be troubled: ye believe in God, believe also in me.

                2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

                3 And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

                4 And whither I go ye know, and the way ye know.
                He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                Jim Elliot

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                • it's interesting that the faith alone folks do not want to discuss the actual Scriputre readings that CLEARLY refute osas (example: one in OP).

                  But then, I guess if you consider that people believe what they want... not so interesting after all




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                  • Originally posted by republicanchick View Post
                    it's interesting that the faith alone folks do not want to discuss the actual Scriputre readings that CLEARLY refute osas (example: one in OP).

                    But then, I guess if you consider that people believe what they want... not so interesting after all




                    There is no refuting eternal security;


                    John 10:27-29 King James Version (KJV)

                    27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

                    28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

                    29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
                    He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                    Jim Elliot

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                    • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                      There is no refuting eternal security;


                      John 10:27-29 King James Version (KJV)

                      27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

                      28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

                      29 My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all; and no man is able to pluck them out of my Father's hand.
                      sure there is. The Bible refutes it... not that the Bible saves people. If it did, the world wouldn't be in such a MESS... after all, even liberals quote the bible here and there when it suits them.

                      Anyway, you can't just "accept Christ" and then sin all you want and get into Heaven. That is one the top most ABSURD and ridiculous things I have ever heard.

                      You did not read the Scriputre in the OP... too bad...





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                      • Are you Going to Heaven ?
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                        Technically speaking , The Church goes to the New Jerusalem.

                        The Church who keeps the commandments of God and the Testimony of
                        Jesus is taken up to the New Jerusalem Mansion just before Satan is thrown
                        down and the Two Witnesses start Preaching to the JEWS during the last half
                        of the Tribulation.

                        John 14:2 In my Father’s house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you unto myself; that where I am, there ye may be also.

                        Revelation 12:6 And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days.

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                        • Originally posted by republicanchick View Post


                          sure there is. The Bible refutes it... not that the Bible saves people. If it did, the world wouldn't be in such a MESS... after all, even liberals quote the bible here and there when it suits them.

                          Anyway, you can't just "accept Christ" and then sin all you want and get into Heaven. That is one the top most ABSURD and ridiculous things I have ever heard.

                          You did not read the Scriputre in the OP... too bad...


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                          I'm not too concerned. If you want to doubt your salvation you may want to check and see if you are truly saved.
                          He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                          Jim Elliot

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                          • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                            I'm not too concerned. If you want to doubt your salvation you may want to check and see if you are truly saved.
                            Most people believe that only OTHER people go to Hell.

                            And yet Jesus's words stand still: that FEW find the narrow way to Heaven

                            the narrow way is the Church He founded.

                            And most people hate that Church



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                            • It does not have to do with the church;

                              John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

                              16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

                              Do you believe it?
                              He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose.

                              Jim Elliot

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                              • Originally posted by Bright Raven View Post
                                It does not have to do with the church;

                                John 3:16 King James Version (KJV)

                                16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

                                Do you believe it?
                                then why did Jesus speak of HIs Church and the power IT alone has?

                                "I will build My Church and the gates of Hell wll not prevail against it"

                                Mt 16:18

                                looks like the gates of hell can prevail against... individuals... left to their own devices..



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