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    Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

    16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

    16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

    Paul was saying God would stablish or strengthen the church according to Paul's gospel and by the preaching of Jesus Christ:

    1) according to the revelation of the mystery

    2) by the scriptures of the prophets

    The preaching of Jesus Christ was by the mystery and by the prophets.

    The mystery of justification by the redemption of Jesus Christ, and the body of Christ was revealed to Paul. The mystery was not revealed before Paul. The mystery was not revealed unto the prophets.

  • #2
    I would say that most, if not all, of the people that adamantly push the "one true gospel" idea do not understand the revelation of the mystery and believe that there is only one way to "preach Jesus". That is a source of much confusion and division.
    All of my ancestors are human.
    Originally posted by Squeaky
    That explains why your an idiot.
    Originally posted by God's Truth
    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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    • #3
      douge


      The mystery of justification by the redemption of Jesus Christ, and the body of Christ was revealed to Paul. The mystery was not revealed before Paul. The mystery was not revealed unto the prophets.
      What did Isaiah mean here Isa 53:11

      11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
      "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
      preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
      called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
      a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

      Charles Spurgeon !

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      • #4
        Originally posted by beloved57 View Post
        douge




        What did Isaiah mean here Isa 53:11

        11 He shall see of the travail of his soul, and shall be satisfied: by his knowledge shall my righteous servant justify many; for he shall bear their iniquities.
        The death and resurrection was not hidden and was revealed to the prophets. That by the cross, Israel and Gentile would be freely justified and form the body of Christ was not revealed until Paul.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by DougE View Post
          Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,

          16:26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:

          16:27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.

          Paul was saying God would stablish or strengthen the church according to Paul's gospel and by the preaching of Jesus Christ:
          It's Paul's gospel and Peter's gospel, it is Christ's gospel, it is GOD's gospel.

          No such thing as different gospels.

          Originally posted by DougE View Post

          1) according to the revelation of the mystery
          Jesus is the mystery.

          Jesus came and taught the new covenant.

          Originally posted by DougE View Post

          2) by the scriptures of the prophets

          The preaching of Jesus Christ was by the mystery and by the prophets.

          The mystery of justification by the redemption of Jesus Christ, and the body of Christ was revealed to Paul. The mystery was not revealed before Paul. The mystery was not revealed unto the prophets.
          That is just not true to keep saying that.
          Jesus came and TAUGHT it.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DougE View Post

            The death and resurrection was not hidden and was revealed to the prophets. That by the cross, Israel and Gentile would be freely justified and form the body of Christ was not revealed until Paul.
            How can you say such a thing when the scriptures even have a Samaritan woman saying now she knows she met the SAVIOR of the WORLD?


            How can you say what you do when John the baptizer said HE IS THE LAMB OF GOD THAT TAKES AWAY THE SINS OF THE WORLD?


            How can you speak such falseness after reading how Jesus said a GENTILE had greater faith than any he had seen and that people are being thrown out because of it?

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DougE View Post

              The death and resurrection was not hidden and was revealed to the prophets. That by the cross, Israel and Gentile would be freely justified and form the body of Christ was not revealed until Paul.


              All of my ancestors are human.
              Originally posted by Squeaky
              That explains why your an idiot.
              Originally posted by God's Truth
              Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
              Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
              (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

              1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
              (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

              Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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              • #8
                The verses you quote literally say that it is made known by the prophets. Yet you try to use these verses to tell us precisely the opposite - that the prophets never heard about it.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Wick Stick View Post
                  The verses you quote literally say that it is made known by the prophets. Yet you try to use these verses to tell us precisely the opposite - that the prophets never heard about it.
                  To what (if anything) are you referring by each of your two instances of the word, "it", here?
                  What evidence do you have to support your claim that what you call "evidence" is evidence?

                  MAGA (Masking America's Gullible Apes)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DougE View Post

                    The death and resurrection was not hidden and was revealed to the prophets. That by the cross, Israel and Gentile would be freely justified and form the body of Christ was not revealed until Paul.
                    The Body of Christ was always formed for it and Christ are one. As long as it's been a Christ there's been a Body of Christ. The Mystery was that Gentiles would be part of that Body.
                    "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                    preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                    called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                    a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                    Charles Spurgeon !

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Wick Stick View Post
                      The verses you quote literally say that it is made known by the prophets. Yet you try to use these verses to tell us precisely the opposite - that the prophets never heard about it.
                      That is an excellent point.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by 7djengo7 View Post

                        To what (if anything) are you referring by each of your two instances of the word, "it", here?
                        My thought too... but he's just a troll, so I ignored him.
                        All of my ancestors are human.
                        Originally posted by Squeaky
                        That explains why your an idiot.
                        Originally posted by God's Truth
                        Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                        Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                        (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                        1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                        (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                        Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

                        Comment


                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Wick Stick View Post
                          The verses you quote literally say that it is made known by the prophets. Yet you try to use these verses to tell us precisely the opposite - that the prophets never heard about it.
                          The prophets spoke of Christ ( Isaiah 53 as an example) but not mystery revealed to Paul

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                          • #14
                            Luke 2:32
                            a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel."

                            Acts 13:47
                            For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

                            Acts 26:23
                            that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles."


                            Same one and only gospel mystery revealed.

                            Same gospel revealed in LUKE as IN ACTS.

                            ACTS OF THE APOSTLES.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by God's Truth View Post
                              Luke 2:32
                              a light for revelation to the Gentiles, and the glory of your people Israel."

                              Acts 13:47
                              For this is what the Lord has commanded us: "'I have made you a light for the Gentiles, that you may bring salvation to the ends of the earth.'"

                              Acts 26:23
                              that the Messiah would suffer and, as the first to rise from the dead, would bring the message of light to his own people and to the Gentiles."


                              Same one and only gospel mystery revealed.

                              Same gospel revealed in LUKE as IN ACTS.

                              ACTS OF THE APOSTLES.
                              The verses you quoted are prophetic not mystery. It was prophesized in scripture that the Gentiles would be blessed through Israel. Paul revealed the Gentiles could be justified freely apart from Israel (Ephesians 3:1-6 Romans 3:24).

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