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    Romans 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

    Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ. They had the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Exodus 19:5-6 Daniel 7:18 Psalm 22:28).

    Paul addressed them in his epistles and admonished those in the body to receive those weak in the faith (Romans 15:1).

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    Originally posted by DougE View Post
    Romans 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

    Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ. They had the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Exodus 19:5-6 Daniel 7:18 Psalm 22:28).

    Paul addressed them in his epistles and admonished those in the body to receive those weak in the faith (Romans 15:1).
    Good grief, the scripture says they were in Christ, in him means in his body.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by DougE View Post
      Romans 16:7 Salute Andronicus and Junia, my kinsmen, and my fellow-prisoners, who are of note among the apostles, who also were in Christ before me.

      Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ. They had the promise of the Davidic kingdom on earth (Exodus 19:5-6 Daniel 7:18 Psalm 22:28).

      Paul addressed them in his epistles and admonished those in the body to receive those weak in the faith (Romans 15:1).
      So they were in Christ but not in the body of Christ. Christ and His Body are One ! 1 Cor 12:12

      For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
      "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
      preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
      called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
      a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

      Charles Spurgeon !

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      • #4
        Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

        So they were in Christ but not in the body of Christ. Christ and His Body are One ! 1 Cor 12:12

        For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
        Hi and many fail to SEE that the B O C was NOT YET IN OPERATION !!

        Another point is that Rom 16:7 says , HAVE BECOME / OR WERE / is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE , and in the INDICATIVE MOOD and as John 15:1-7 says that those in Rom 16:7 were ( in HIM and HE in THEM !!

        Those in Rom 16:7 were the ones that PAUL was persecuting , in Gal 1:23 and in verse 22 Paul was not known to the assemblies in Judea so explain how theyb were saved by Grace that Paul was preaching ??

        Also notice that from Rom 16:8-15 WERE ( in HIM ) and that Paul's mother is mentioned in verse 13 !!

        Also notice that in verse 8 it does not use " in CHRIST " BUT uses " in the Lord " and the same in verse 11 and 13 !!

        dan p

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        • #5
          Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

          So they were in Christ but not in the body of Christ. Christ and His Body are One ! 1 Cor 12:12

          For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
          Hi and why is ONLY Paul that writes about being in CHRIST , and what not PETER ??

          Paul has listed 49 verse that speak to a PRACTICAL APPLICATION !!

          Then Paul has a list of DOCTRINE with a list 62 APPLICATION !!

          My friend ROBERT C BROCK has a list :

          #1 in CHRIST , 41 X

          #2 , in the LORD , 41 X

          #3 , in CHRIST , 31 X

          #4, in HIM , 20 X

          #5, in the LORD JESUS , 6 X

          #6, in WHOM , 6 X

          #7 , in JESUS , 1 X

          #8, in HIMSELF , 2 X

          #9 , in the BELOVED , 1 X

          dan p

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          • #6
            Originally posted by DAN P View Post

            Hi and why is ONLY Paul that writes about being in CHRIST , and what not PETER ??

            Paul has listed 49 verse that speak to a PRACTICAL APPLICATION !!

            Then Paul has a list of DOCTRINE with a list 62 APPLICATION !!

            My friend ROBERT C BROCK has a list :

            #1 in CHRIST , 41 X

            #2 , in the LORD , 41 X

            #3 , in CHRIST , 31 X

            #4, in HIM , 20 X

            #5, in the LORD JESUS , 6 X

            #6, in WHOM , 6 X

            #7 , in JESUS , 1 X

            #8, in HIMSELF , 2 X

            #9 , in the BELOVED , 1 X

            dan p
            That doesn't mean anything
            "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
            preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
            called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
            a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

            Charles Spurgeon !

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            • #7
              Originally posted by DAN P View Post

              Hi and many fail to SEE that the B O C was NOT YET IN OPERATION !!

              Another point is that Rom 16:7 says , HAVE BECOME / OR WERE / is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , ACTIVE VOICE , and in the INDICATIVE MOOD and as John 15:1-7 says that those in Rom 16:7 were ( in HIM and HE in THEM !!

              Those in Rom 16:7 were the ones that PAUL was persecuting , in Gal 1:23 and in verse 22 Paul was not known to the assemblies in Judea so explain how theyb were saved by Grace that Paul was preaching ??

              Also notice that from Rom 16:8-15 WERE ( in HIM ) and that Paul's mother is mentioned in verse 13 !!

              Also notice that in verse 8 it does not use " in CHRIST " BUT uses " in the Lord " and the same in verse 11 and 13 !!

              dan p
              Christ and His Church are One. And Christ is the same yesterday today and forever. Heb 13
              "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
              preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
              called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
              a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

              Charles Spurgeon !

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              • #8
                "Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ."

                What?

                "
                When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:1-4).


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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Bradley D View Post
                  "Those in Christ before Paul had believed the preaching of Peter and the apostles. They were not in the body of Christ."

                  What?

                  "
                  When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place. And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting. Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them. And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance" (Acts 2:1-4).

                  Acts 2 is not the start of the church, the body of Christ, but rather, the prophecy given to Israel by Joel (Joel 2:28-29) in regard to the earthly kingdom promised them (Acts 2:16-21)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by DougE View Post

                    Acts 2 is not the start of the church, the body of Christ, but rather, the prophecy given to Israel by Joel (Joel 2:28-29) in regard to the earthly kingdom promised them (Acts 2:16-21)
                    Isn't it amazing how hard it is for so many Christians to understand and believe these simple truths?
                    All of my ancestors are human.
                    Originally posted by Squeaky
                    That explains why your an idiot.
                    Originally posted by God's Truth
                    Father figure, Son figure, and Holy Spirit figure.
                    Col 2:9 (AKJV/PCE)
                    (2:9) For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

                    1Tim 4:10 (AKJV/PCE)
                    (4:10) For therefore we both labour and suffer reproach, because we trust in the living God, who is the Saviour of all men, specially of those that believe.

                    Something that was SPOKEN OF since the world began CANNOT be the SAME thing as something KEPT SECRET since the world began.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                      So they were in Christ but not in the body of Christ. Christ and His Body are One ! 1 Cor 12:12

                      For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.

                      Hi and this is for those that do NOT understand what Gal 3:28 really means !!

                      Gal 3:28 says n THERE CANNOT BE JEW , NOR Greek in the B O C and be " in CHRIST "

                      That is plain English , do you understand that ??

                      dan p

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by DAN P View Post


                        Hi and this is for those that do NOT understand what Gal 3:28 really means !!

                        Gal 3:28 says n THERE CANNOT BE JEW , NOR Greek in the B O C and be " in CHRIST "

                        That is plain English , do you understand that ??

                        dan p
                        Sounds like something you made up. Christ has always been the Head of the Body, Hos Church
                        "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                        preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                        called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                        a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                        Charles Spurgeon !

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                          Sounds like something you made up. Christ has always been the Head of the Body, Hos Church
                          Hi and what you refuse to believe is that the B O C was not in operation until Paul was saved in Acts 9:6 !!

                          And refuse to comment why in Rom 16:11 , 12 , 13 why INSTEAD of using _ in Christ " verse 11,12, 13 USES " IN THE LORD "

                          And as a Calvinist , are you worried you have no answer ??

                          dan p

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by DAN P View Post

                            Hi and what you refuse to believe is that the B O C was not in operation until Paul was saved in Acts 9:6 !!

                            And refuse to comment why in Rom 16:11 , 12 , 13 why INSTEAD of using _ in Christ " verse 11,12, 13 USES " IN THE LORD "

                            And as a Calvinist , are you worried you have no answer ??

                            dan p
                            Christ has always been the Head of His Body the Church Col 1:15-18

                            5 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

                            16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

                            17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

                            18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
                            "... I have my own private opinion that there is no such a thing as
                            preaching Christ and him crucified, unless you preach what now-a-days is
                            called Calvinism. I have my own ideas, and those I always state boldly. It is
                            a nickname to call it Calvinism; Calvinism is the gospel, and nothing else."

                            Charles Spurgeon !

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by beloved57 View Post

                              Christ has always been the Head of His Body the Church Col 1:15-18

                              5 Who is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of every creature:

                              16 For by him were all things created, that are in heaven, and that are in earth, visible and invisible, whether they be thrones, or dominions, or principalities, or powers: all things were created by him, and for him:

                              17 And he is before all things, and by him all things consist.

                              18And he is the head of the body, the church: who is the beginning, the firstborn from the dead; that in all things he might have the preeminence.
                              Hi and you did not quote verse 16 correct !!

                              It does not read All things have been created and the correct translation reads < THE ALL THINGS / TA PANTA and TA / MEANS / THE and PANTA means ALL THINGS , so check and you will stop mis-quoting the apostle Paul OR get a Greek book and see that I am correct !!

                              ALL THINGS / PANTA just means ALL THINGS but TA PANTA / THE ALL THINGS , means THE ALL THINGS that concern the B O C !!


                              Get rid of that CALVINIST FALSE GOSPEL you preaching and follow Paul 1 Cor 11:1 !!


                              dan p

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