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  • #61
    Trumpers have a lot to answer for. They're cultists and they can't see it. And they're so deeply invested in their conspiracies that to admit now that they were wrong all along is more than they can handle so they double down, all the while pretending they didn't elect a deranged grifter who was never looking out for them, but only for himself - now all he can do is watch Fox and melt down on Twitter.

    You elected a loser of such historical proportions... and you still think the emperor is wearing clothes.

    ‘Beyond repugnant’: GOP congressman slams Trump for warning of ‘civil war’ over impeachment




    Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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    • #62
      In reference to my last post on this thread, here is a link to the original whistleblower form that says first hand information is required. The changes to the form for whistleblowers have been significant.

      https://www.scribd.com/document/4277...rm-401-24may18
      “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
      ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

      “One and God make a majority.”
      ― Frederick Douglass

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      • #63
        Here is a twitter thread from a researcher. He points out many changes in what is acceptable from a whistleblower. The forms have gone from naming names to accepting anonymous sources. In other words, gossip is now acceptable for a whistleblower to report. This is the same as accepting gossip in a court of law as statement of facts. It's flat out insane and riddled with corruption.

        https://twitter.com/ClimateAudit/sta...80473566093312
        “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
        ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

        “One and God make a majority.”
        ― Frederick Douglass

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        • #64
          Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
          Trumpers have a lot to answer for. They're cultists and they can't see it.
          Trump Derangement Syndrome is a defining mark that someone has been assimilated by the Leftist cult.
          Learn to read what is written.

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          The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
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          • #65
            When someone manipulates a nation's currency to the point of a nation having to devalue their currency it takes food, clothing and shelter away from the poorest of the poor in that nation. Why? Because the poor don't have the financial resources to absorb a big jump in the prices of these vital needs. Let's say a nation has to devalue it's currency by 10%. That means that the buying power of that currency was just reduced 10%. If a poor family was just scraping by before the devaluation happened it was now underwater financially. It no longer had the financial wherewithal to pay it's bills, buy food, pay rent, etc.... Another effect is that interest rates will rise. So, if a family prepared to buy a home and interest rates rise 2 or 3% they are suddenly priced out of the market for a home as the interest payments swell the monthly payment so much they can no longer afford the home. They get priced out of the market by a speculator causing a devaluation of the currency.

            It's how he has made his money. In effect he has made his money by taking food, clothing, and shelter away from the poor people of that nation. I call that pure evil. He claims he wants to help the poor through socialism and in reality all he really wants is money and power.

            https://www.theguardian.com/business...ears-pound-erm

            Soros also worked at manipulating Asian currencies and the Mexican peso. It's his way of making money.

            https://cs.stanford.edu/people/erobe...investors2.htm

            In addition to his currency manipulation he was also a Nazi collaborator helping send Jews to the gas chambers and taking their possessions. The man is a sleaze from the word go. He did it as a young kid, but says it shaped his character and he has no regrets doing it. And this, anna, is the guy you defend.

            “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
            ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

            “One and God make a majority.”
            ― Frederick Douglass

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            • #66
              Trump cultists are desperate to talk about anything other than Trump's obstruction or grifting or witness intimidation or veiled threats or abuse of the power of the office or quid pro quo or toddler temper tantrums on Twitter.

              Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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              • #67
                More than 60 percent of Americans believe President Trump’s phone call to the leader of Ukraine asking him to launch an investigation into a 2020 Democratic political rival is “serious,” a poll released Sunday shows.

                Forty-three percent said Trump’s outreach to President Volodymyr Zelensky about former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter was “very serious,” while 21 percent said it was “somewhat serious,” according to an ABC News/Ipsos Poll.

                It found that 19 percent of respondents believe it was “not so serious” and that 17 percent said it was “not serious at all.”surveys

                The poll was conducted Friday and Saturday after the whistleblower’s report and the White House’s rough transcript of the conversation between Trump and Zelensky were released.

                https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/majori...-serious-poll/
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                • #68
                  Who’s who in the whistleblower complaint

                  One of the comments posted after the article sums it up:
                  "As a foreign reader of this newspaper, I hope that your legislature's impeachment investigations will settle the question concerning whether yours is the country of Washington, Jefferson, and Lincoln or of Trump, Barr, and Giuliani. We in the rest of the world would very much like to know."

                  Tried and waited then got tired, that's about it

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by annabenedetti View Post
                    Trump cultists are desperate to talk about anything other than Trump's obstruction or grifting or witness intimidation or veiled threats or abuse of the power of the office or quid pro quo or toddler temper tantrums on Twitter.
                    So impeach him already, let's move on to the Pence presidency and get on with recriminalizing homosexuality

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                    • #70
                      A deeper dive on the dni "whistleblower". Here is a good summary of all the dirty dealing by the deep state and the socialist party once known as Democrats. There are ll different issues pointed out in this Breitbart article on how corrupt this entire hoax is. It's nothing but a rehash of the Russia hoax by the same group of people. The actors are the same. The falsity of the claims is the same. Anyone who is looking for justice, rather than political chicanery, will see through this public heap of lying in a very short time.

                      And those of us who want justice, who require truth to be told, will once more be called cultists, extremists, racist, and every other word the left always uses in their attempts to shut down discussion and the revelation of facts and truth. The socialist's game plan is getting extremely threadbare. It's so obvious that the game plan is transparent to anyone who thinks. It's no wonder the left has been pushing common core in the educational system to dumb down the population for the last decade or so. They hate rational, thinking people who look beneath the surface of their rhetoric.

                      Am I terrible for enjoying this? And I mean enjoying this from the beginning, from day one, when one of our fine editors asked me to look at the brewing Ukraine scandal and my response was to LOL at how stupid it all is/was/will be forever.
                      I’m concerned that if we don’t impeach this president, he will get re-elected.
                      — Rep. Al Green (D-TX) on MSNBC
                      Come on, this whole thing is super-lame, and the anticipation of awaiting its unraveling was almost as delicious as watching the unraveling.
                      And I’m no genius. I’m no sage. My skills are no different than anyone else’s. One of the things that makes humans human is our ability to recognize patterns. This unique skill of ours created the wheel, put a man on the moon, gave us the iPhone and Hogan’s Heroes.
                      So, after all of this…
                      • Hispanic George Zimmerman: The White Racist Killer
                      • Hands Up, Don’t Shoot!
                      • Trump Can’t Win
                      • Brett Kavanaugh: Serial Rapist
                      • The KKKids from KKKovington High School
                      • Trump Colluded with Russia
                      • Brett Kavanugh: Serial Rapist Part Deux

                      …only a chimp with a learning disability could fail to recognize another yet-another *yawn* pattern pointing to a desperate conspiracy orchestrated by the Deep State, Democrats, and the media to take out the Bad Orange Man.
                      And this one was truly desperate: poorly planned from the beginning, and so poorly executed that every one of the conspirators, especially Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA), CNN’s Chris Cuomo and Jake Tapper, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow and Lawrence O’Donnell, sound like used car salesman with one day left to hit their monthly quota.
                      The rest of this highly informative article can be found at the following link. https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...-ukraine-hoax/
                      “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                      ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                      “One and God make a majority.”
                      ― Frederick Douglass

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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                        More than 60 percent of Americans believe President Trump’s phone call to the leader of Ukraine asking him to launch an investigation into a 2020 Democratic political rival is “serious,” a poll released Sunday shows.
                        https://nypost.com/2019/09/29/majori...-serious-poll/

                        Where and How Often Do Americans Get Their News?

                        Two-thirds of U.S. adults now receive their news from social media, with 1 in 5 American adults doing so often, according to a report from the Pew Research Center. Nearly half of all Americans get their news from Facebook, where its influence on the recent U.S. presidential election, and the fidelity of the information presented on that platform, remains a hot topic as we approach future elections.

                        We have 66.6% of Americans getting their news from sources that are controlled and manipulated by Leftists to disparage Trump and conservatives.
                        We have 60% of Americans who believe the President of the USA may have done something wrong during a phone call to the leader of Ukraine by suggesting that he should investigate the circumstances that led to the son of an American vice president getting a job with a Ukrainian gas company that paid $50,000 per month during that American vice president's term of office.

                        Do you think that there is any correlation between the 66.6% and 60% numbers?
                        Learn to read what is written.

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                        The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                          We have 66.6% of Americans getting their news from sources that are controlled and manipulated by Leftists to disparage Trump and conservatives.
                          So Trump no longer uses Twitter? You very sure about that? Let's see some numbers on that one.

                          We have 60% of Americans who believe the President of the USA may have done something wrong during a phone call to the leader of Ukraine by suggesting that he should investigate the circumstances that led to the son of an American vice president getting a job with a Ukrainian gas company that paid $50,000 per month during that American vice president's term of office.
                          No, that's wasn't brought up in Trump's phone call when he responded to the Ukraine president's request to buy more weapons with “I would like you to do us a favor, though."

                          Turns out, that's a violation of U.S. law, and impeachable. As you know, Trump was peddling the story that Biden interceded to stop an investigation of his son, but that's a dishonesty, too...

                          However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, produced documents to Bloomberg that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.

                          "There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky," Kasko told Bloomberg. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015."


                          Do you think that there is any correlation between the 66.6% and 60% numbers?
                          You know how to get a perfect correlation on your data? Only plot two points. WFTM&H-I
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                            So Trump no longer uses Twitter? You very sure about that? Let's see some numbers on that one.
                            Yes, Twitter is controlled and manipulated by Leftists.
                            Twitter faces $250 million lawsuit over allegations it 'shadow bans' conservatives

                            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                            No, that's wasn't brought up in Trump's phone call when he responded to the Ukraine president's request to buy more weapons with “I would like you to do us a favor, though."
                            What does the transcript say happened?

                            Read Trump's phone conversation with Volodymyr Zelensky

                            President Zelenskyy: Yes it is very important for me and everything that you just mentioned earlier. For me as a President, it is very important and we are open for any future cooperation. We are ready to open a new page on cooperation in relations between the United States and Ukraine. For that purpose, I just recalled our ambassador from United States and he will be replaced by a very competent and very experienced ambassador who will work hard on making sure that our two nations are getting closer. I would also like and hope to see him having your trust and your confidence and have personal relations with you so we can cooperate even more so. I will personally tell you that one of my assistants spoke with Mr. Giuliani just recently and we are hoping very much that Mr. Giuliani will be able to travel to Ukraine and we will meet once he comes to Ukraine. I just wanted to assure you once again that you have nobody but friends around us. I will make sure that I surround myself with the best and most experienced people. I also wanted to tell you that we are friends. We are great friends and you Mr. President have friends in our country so we can continue our strategic partnership. I also plan to surround myself with great people and in addition to that investigation, I guarantee as the President of Ukraine that all the investigations will be done openly and candidly.. That I can assure you.

                            The President: Good because I heard you had a prosecutor who was very good and he was shut down and that's really unfair. A lot of people are talking about that, the way they shut your very good prosecutor down and you had some very bad people involved. Mr. Giuliani is a highly respected man. He was the mayor of New York City, a great mayor, and I would like him to call you. I will ask him to call you along with the Attorney General. Rudy very much knows what's happening and he is a very capable guy. If you could speak to him that would be great. The former ambassador from the United States, the woman, was bad news and the people she was dealing with in the Ukraine were bad news so I just want to let you know that. The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it... It sounds horrible to me.


                            Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                            Turns out, that's a violation of U.S. law, and impeachable.
                            There are people breaking the US law, but it is not Trump.

                            Giuliani proposes suing House Democrats over Trump impeachment probe

                            President Trump's attorney Rudy Giuliani on Tuesday floated the idea of suing members of Congress over their actions relating to an impeachment inquiry into Trump, saying their actions are “worse than McCarthy.”

                            “I had a couple of talks with civil rights lawyers and a constitutional lawyer today and here's what they're recommending: that we should bring a lawsuit on behalf of the president and several of the people in the administration, maybe even myself as a lawyer, against the members of Congress individually for violating constitutional rights, violating civil rights,” Giuliani said in an appearance on Fox News.

                            He accused Democrats of violating Article II of the Constitution, which gives the president the “power, by and with the advice and consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two-thirds of the Senators present concur.”

                            “They are doing extraordinary things. For example, they are violating — they’re interfering with the president in exercising his rights under Article II: The president of the United States conducts the foreign policy of the United States,” Giuliani said. “They're calling foreign leaders. They are going to foreign capitals.”

                            “This is worse than McCarthy," he added later, referring to former Sen. Joseph McCarthy's (R-Wis.) search for communist supporters in the U.S. government in the 1950s.

                            Learn to read what is written.

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                            The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
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                            • #74
                              We have 60% of Americans who believe the President of the USA may have done something wrong during a phone call to the leader of Ukraine by suggesting that he should investigate the circumstances that led to the son of an American vice president getting a job with a Ukrainian gas company that paid $50,000 per month during that American vice president's term of office.
                              Barbarian chuckles:
                              No, that's wasn't brought up in Trump's phone call when he responded to the Ukraine president's request to buy more weapons with “I would like you to do us a favor, though."

                              Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                              What does the transcript say happened?
                              Nothing about that, as your edited transcript shows. However, when the Ukrainian president wanted to buy more weapons from us to stop Russian aggression, Trump did say:“I would like you to do us a favor, though."

                              The telling moment in the Zelensky call is when the Ukrainian president attempts to steer the conversation to military aid: “I would like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense.” Then he announces that he is ready to buy some more missiles. He’s hoping to secure the protection of the United States, and that moment of vulnerability is when Trump attempts to strong-arm him: “I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it.”
                              https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/ar...lensky/598798/

                              It's a felony to solicit a foreign nation to influence an American election. And yes, impeachable.

                              The Biden distraction attempt fell apart because the timeline doesn't fit Trump's story:

                              However, Vitaliy Kasko, who had been Shokin’s deputy overseeing international cooperation before resigning in February 2016 citing corruption in the office, produced documents to Bloomberg that under Shokin, the investigation into Burisma had been dormant.

                              "There was no pressure from anyone from the U.S. to close cases against Zlochevsky," Kasko told Bloomberg. "It was shelved by Ukrainian prosecutors in 2014 and through 2015."


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                              • #75
                                Vice-president Biden accepted a $50,000 per month bribe and laundered it through his son's "job"

                                that's the real story that the media doesn't want to cover

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