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  • Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
    I would think whether or not they actually had terrorists who took part in 9/11 would be a significant finding.
    After you get elected President, you can apply that standard to the countries you choose for a travel ban.
    Learn to read what is written.

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    • Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
      Since single-parent households in the United States are frequently headed by an adult with little education and not much money, I'd be interested in data that controls for those two issues. Do you have anything?

      The problem, if you don't control those, is that you don't really know which factor is responsible.
      Maybe you missed this line that stated: "And yes, that was the case controlling for individual background characteristics, such as socioeconomic status, and the prevalence of single-parent families in their country."
      Learn to read what is written.

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      • Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
        Sudan was originally on the list. For some reason, they got off.
        The leftists seem to think that makes Trump a racist.
        Learn to read what is written.

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        • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
          The leftists seem to think that makes Trump a racist.

          Apparently, money was more important than race for him in this case. As it was in the other cases. He never let racism get in the way of grabbing some case.

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          • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
            Maybe you missed this line that stated: "And yes, that was the case controlling for individual background characteristics, such as socioeconomic status, and the prevalence of single-parent families in their country."
            That meant controlling those data between nations. I'd like to see the data showing what it is within this country.

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            • (Barbarian suggests that any travel ban should focus on nations from which terrorists actually attacked the United States)

              Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
              After you get elected President, you can apply that standard to the countries you choose for a travel ban.
              Or pretty much any one else, who actually puts America ahead of personal finances.

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              • Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                Apparently, money was more important than race for him in this case. As it was in the other cases. He never let racism get in the way of grabbing some case.
                Yes, there are only four colors that Trump is concerned with.
                The green of money.
                The Red, White, and Blue of the flag.

                Originally posted by The Barbarian View Post
                Or pretty much any one else, who actually puts America ahead of personal finances.
                Pretty much everyone in the U.S.A. puts their personal finances ahead of America.
                There is no reason to expect any government official to do otherwise.
                Learn to read what is written.

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                • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                  Do you have any proof that Trump views some races as superior to others?
                  So far I haven't seen any evidence that Trump discriminates on the basis of skin color.
                  Uhh he was sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s?
                  https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...wsuit_n_855553

                  Black employees had to be hidden when Trump visited his Casinos
                  https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ack-employees/

                  And of course, Birtherism.
                  “We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.



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                  • Originally posted by Alate_One View Post
                    Uhh he was sued for housing discrimination in the 1970s?
                    https://www.huffpost.com/entry/donal...wsuit_n_855553
                    Trump was sued for not renting to people on welfare with the false accusation that it was racially motivated.

                    Originally posted by Alate_One View Post
                    Black employees had to be hidden when Trump visited his Casinos
                    https://www.motherjones.com/politics...ack-employees/
                    A former employee trying to smear a former employer by making unprovable accusations.

                    Originally posted by Alate_One View Post
                    And of course, Birtherism.
                    Was Obama's father a United States citizen? No.
                    Did Obama's family in Kenya state that Obama was born there? Yes.

                    Sounds like you are the real racist.
                    Last edited by genuineoriginal; September 6th, 2019, 10:16 AM.
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                    • Originally posted by Alate_One View Post
                      And most white people are killed by other white people! Yeah that means white people are the worst! right?
                      I notice how far you stay away from Walter E, Williams' analysis for the crime and morals problems in the black community and what has caused them. The proof is there and the cause is Democrats and their socialist agendas. He demonstrates the causes and traces the roots of the current state of the morality problems in the black community.

                      Are you Barby's backup fallacy creator? Sure seems like it because all I see from you are fallacies.
                      “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                      ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                      “One and God make a majority.”
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                      • Let's look at the real history of racism in this country. The top 5 most racist presidents in US history include: Bill Clinton, FDR, Woodrow Wilson, LBJ, and Obama.

                        LBJ talked about how the Democrats would have the "*******" voting Democrat for generations and how they needed to be kept down because they were getting "uppity". His history of racism is well-documented as he was a proud hater of the black man.

                        Woodrow Wilson was a southern boy who re-segregated the federal government after the Republicans had de-segregated it, and chose to show Birth of a Nation in the White House. He said such choice things as "segregation is not a humiliation, but a benefit", and "The white men were roused by a mere instinct of self-preservation—until at last there had sprung into existence a great Ku Klux Klan, a veritable empire of the South, to protect the Southern country.”

                        FDR rounded up all Japanese Americans and locked them in concentration camps. He also appointed a member of the KKK to the SC, Hugo Black. This was exposed in the newspapers of that day. When FDR spoke at the Democrat National Convention in 1924 it was known as the "klanbake" because of all the KKK members in attendance. There were 20,000+ KKK members picnicking after his speech in New Jersey.

                        Bill Clinton never did distance himself from William Fulbright who was a notorious anti-Semite, and a signer of the Southern Manifesto which declared the south had a right to keep their population segregated by race. That manifesto was signed by 101 congressmen. Ninety-nine of them were Democrats. Clinton was also one of 3 Arkansas state officials the NAACP sued for black voter suppression in 1989 under the 1965 Civil Rights Act law. And, during Billy Bob's time as governor in Arkansas he never signed the state civil rights law, but he did issue a proclamation honoring Jefferson Davis the radical racist president of the Confederacy. Hillary created a joint foundation with Fullbright. Yeah, they have never been associated with anything racist.... ****rolls eyes**** https://thefederalist.com/2016/09/19...d-anti-semite/

                        Obama did all he could to raise race tensions. His frequent denunciations of law enforcement that had to be walked back because he spoke before any facts were known did a lot to generate further distrust between blacks and law enforcement and whites. Obama once said: “There’s no doubt that there’s some folks who just really dislike me because they don’t like the idea of a black President,” Obama said. “Now, the flip side of it is there are some black folks and maybe some white folks who really like me and give me the benefit of the doubt precisely because I’m a black President.” Now, his idea as to his supporters and detractors is all based upon race, and that is a clear indication that his politics is racist. The fact that many, including myself, could care less about the color of his skin and based our opposition to him on policy alone paints a much different picture than his own ignoring of those facts and his claim that support and opposition to him was all based on race. Obama is a racist.

                        I would say the Democrats need to clean their own house before they cast stones at others.
                        “Liberty cannot be established without morality, nor morality without faith.”
                        ― Alexis de Tocqueville, Democracy in America

                        “One and God make a majority.”
                        ― Frederick Douglass

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                        • Originally posted by ffreeloader View Post
                          I notice how far you stay away from Walter E, Williams' analysis for the crime and morals problems in the black community and what has caused them. The proof is there and the cause is Democrats and their socialist agendas. He demonstrates the causes and traces the roots of the current state of the morality problems in the black community.
                          I have read and watched probably far more than you on the status of race in the USA. One guy's book does not amount to proof of anything.

                          You are asserting this is caused by a moral failing and criminality. You haven't even shown that this is actually true. So taking the next step to assign blame for the moral failing is not at all justified.


                          You need to actually focus on what the problem is. The problem is ultimately racial inequity. Black people on average have far less wealth than whites, they have higher unemployment and are more likely to be incarcerated. These things are true, but what is the cause of these facts? I say there is nothing "wrong" with black people that is any different from any other population with a similar socioeconomic situation. What causes these differences is not a moral failing, but current racist policy and a long history of racist policies. And no I'm not talking about the welfare state I'm talking about redlining and the creation of suburbs, lack of public transit, poorly designed public housing (the old giant apartment blocks) and the like.
                          “We do not believe in God because we need to explain this or that feature of the world. That is what science is for. We believe in God because we see something deeper in the world, something that transcends the scientific explanations.” - Karl Giberson Ph.D.



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                          • Trump: Racist Firestorm

                            Trump settled this issued when after days of silence, he stated publically that there were good people on both sides at Charlottesville - despite the fact that one side was organized and represented by a large "white supremist" element!

                            As represented by its lack of racial, gender and age diversity, the Republican Party particularly during the Trump Era, represents only one socio-economic group and has shown no intention of trying to broaden its base!

                            Attacking the "Squad," 4 congressional women of color, may be "red meat" for this President's "white" base but it makes it abundantly clear that Trump is content with his 40% of the electorate and has no intension of broadening his appeal to visible minorities, urban voters, the college educated and women!
                            Last edited by jgarden; September 7th, 2019, 01:46 AM.

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                            • So what is it about Trump that was wrong and showed racism? 1. Was it that the responded to Charlston the way a president should? Do you disagree with there being bad and good people on both sides? What side did the killing again?
                              And the 4 in Congress again help me understand. You say Trump israsist. Now can you please find the video of him being racist? I can dig up several literally for the four. So why do you call President Trump out when as far as I know there is no proof he's racist at all. Why am I not reading about those racist 4 whi has an abundance of racism?
                              What is your definition of racism maybe that's where our wires are getting crossed. I use the dictionary definition.

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                              • Originally posted by Alate_One View Post
                                The problem is ultimately racial inequity. Black people on average have far less wealth than whites, they have higher unemployment and are more likely to be incarcerated.
                                You mean they were like the Irish were?

                                When America Despised the Irish: The 19th Century’s Refugee Crisis

                                The refugees seeking haven in America were poor and disease-ridden. They threatened to take jobs away from Americans and strain welfare budgets. They practiced an alien religion and pledged allegiance to a foreign leader. They were bringing with them crime. They were accused of being rapists. And, worst of all, these undesirables were Irish.

                                A flotilla of 5,000 boats transported the pitiable castaways from the wasteland. Most of the refugees boarded minimally converted cargo ships—some had been used in the past to transport slaves from Africa—and the hungry, sick passengers, many of whom spent their last pennies for transit, were treated little better than freight on a 3,000-mile journey that lasted at least four weeks.

                                Herded like livestock in dark, cramped quarters, the Irish passengers lacked sufficient food and clean water. They choked on fetid air. They were showered by excrement and vomit. Each adult was apportioned just 18 inches of bed space—children half that. Disease and death clung to the rancid vessels like barnacles, and nearly a quarter of the 85,000 passengers who sailed to North America aboard the aptly nicknamed “coffin ships” in 1847 never reached their destinations. Their bodies were wrapped in cloths, weighed down with stones and tossed overboard to sleep forever on the bed of the ocean floor.

                                Although most certainly tired and poor, the Irish did not arrive in America yearning to breathe free; they merely hungered to eat. Largely destitute, many exiles could progress no farther than within walking distance of the city docks where they disembarked. While some had spent all of their meager savings to pay for passage across the Atlantic, others had their voyages funded by British landlords who found it a cheaper solution to dispatch their tenants to another continent, rather than pay for their charity at home.

                                And in the opinion of many Americans, those British landlords were not sending their best people. These people were not like the industrious, Protestant Scotch-Irish immigrants who came to America in large numbers during the colonial era, fought in the Continental Army and tamed the frontier. These people were not only poor, unskilled refugees huddled in rickety tenements. Even worse, they were Catholic.


                                Your analysis of the blacks in America is incomplete if it does not take into account what the Irish did to change and what the blacks in America refuse to do.
                                Learn to read what is written.

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