Iran Responds to Trump - sort of

[The Barbarian]

What's a cynical lie?

This is:

"and then pointed to the expanding Iranian stockpile of uranium enriched to 3.6 percent as proof that Iran was about to launch a nuclear weapon!"

It's not possible to make a nuclear bomb with 3.6 percent enriched uranium. Sorry about that. I didn't mean you; I meant the U.S. government.

I may disagree with you sometimes, but I know you don't lie here, and you're anything but cynical.

 

[annabenedetti]

New leak claims Trump scrapped Iran nuclear deal 'to spite Obama'


Donald Trump abandoned the Iran nuclear deal to spite Barack Obama, according to a leaked memo written by the UK's former ambassador in the US.

Sir Kim Darroch described the move as an act of "diplomatic vandalism", according to the Mail on Sunday.
The paper says the memo was written after the then Foreign Secretary Boris Johnson appealed to the US in 2018 to stick with the deal.

The Mail on Sunday reports that Sir Kim wrote to Mr Johnson informing him Republican President Trump appeared to be abandoning the nuclear deal for "personality reasons" - because the pact had been agreed by his Democrat predecessor, Barack Obama.

Under the 2015 deal backed by the US and five other nations, Iran agreed to limit its sensitive nuclear activities in return for the lifting of crippling economic sanctions.

However, President Trump said he did not think that the deal went far enough in curtailing Iran's nuclear ambitions and reinstated US sanctions after withdrawing from it in May 2018.

In a tweet from June this year, the president also said he objected to Mr Obama having given Iran £1.8bn (£1.4bn) as part of the deal. Commentators later pointed out this was related to the settlement of an unfulfilled military order from the 1970s.

Tehran recently announced it would break a limit set on uranium enrichment, in breach of the deal's conditions. However the UK, Germany and France say they are still committed to the deal.

The British ambassador's memo is said to have highlighted splits amongst US presidential advisers; he wrote that the White House did not have a strategy of how to proceed following withdrawal from the deal.

According to the paper, in his memo to Mr Johnson, Sir Kim wrote: "The outcome illustrated the paradox of this White House: you got exceptional access, seeing everyone short of the president; but on the substance, the administration is set upon an act of diplomatic vandalism, seemingly for ideological and personality reasons - it was Obama's deal.

"Moreover, they can't articulate any 'day-after' strategy; and contacts with State Department this morning suggest no sort of plan for reaching out to partners and allies, whether in Europe or the region."​

 

[The Barbarian]

Well, to be fair, Obama has repeatedly angered Trump by beating him out every year for Most Admired Man. The president typically owns that title, but Obama continued to win it even after leaving office.

That apparently really, really eats at Trump.

 

[ok doser]

Well, to be fair, Obama has repeatedly angered Trump by beating him out every year for Most Admired Man. The president typically owns that title, but Obama continued to win it even after leaving office.

That apparently really, really eats at Trump.

you have a sickness

 

[The Barbarian]

The JCPOA is a sham. It was never signed by either party: US or Iran.

It was merely an agreement. Obama told them that if they ever wanted to see their money again or sell oil on the international market (we had taken all Iranian assets in the United States, and impounded them) they'd give up their nuclear weapons program and submit to inspections on his terms.

Ultimately, they folded and gave him what he demanded.

This was just another case of Obama sending hundreds of millions of taxpayer money in a deal which means nothing.

No. That's just a story someone made up for you. Iran got their money back after they agreed to Obama's demands.

Obama's big signature deal of his presidency is meaningless.

Not quite. Since Iran has so far not come close to starting up a weapons program, the rest of the coalition seems willing to maintain the deal with Iran. And if Trump doesn't improve his standing in the states he narrowly won last time, there will be a pro-American president in the WH again after November.

Worth waiting for.

Nobody signed anything. Iran can walk any time it so chooses and so can the US.

True of any international agreement. But I'm guessing Iran is waiting to see how our elections come out before returning to a weapons program. That's the real reason for Trump reneging on the deal; Bolton wants a war with Iran, and this would be the best excuse he can get.

 

[Ktoyou]

............Well, ..........

That apparently really, really eats at Trump.

Are you saying Trump is a fat-head?

 

[The Barbarian]

Are you saying Trump is a fat-head?

No, although I can see why some people would think he is. However, adipose tissue has more cognitive ability than we've seen from Trump over the past few years.