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  • #16
    Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
    I don't support it without 100% proof of guilt and then only for murder, rape, child molestation, certainly not for infidelity or being gay. In addition, those convicted of the first three where there's still any slight room for doubt should be sentenced to life in maximum security prison.
    What good does it accomplish, even if with 100% proof of guilt?
    Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Truster View Post
      And Yah Shua came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me".

      "I am the Living One; I was dead, and now look, I am alive forever and ever! And I hold the keys of death and Hades".
      Even death apart from the death penalty.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
        I don't support it without 100% proof of guilt and then only for murder, rape, child molestation, certainly not for infidelity or being gay. In addition, those convicted of the first three where there's still any slight room for doubt should be sentenced to life in maximum security prison.
        Is there such a thing as a lesser crime?

        There are crimes that warrant the death penalty according to your view.

        What about crimes that you do not view as as heinous? A lesser punishment? Or, no punishment at all?

        Certainly the innocent should not be proven guilty.

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        • #19
          Originally posted by The Horn View Post
          U.S. states without the death penalty have lower murder rates than those with it .
          correlation and causation

          look it up


          It's not a deterrent to murder and has never been one .
          it's the only way to guarantee that a murderer won't murder again


          Every European country abolished it long ago and their murder rates don't even come remotely close to those in America .
          how many of them have a significant population of young negro males murdering other young negro males?


          There's also the risk of executing innocent people .
          and there's the risk of imprisoning innocent people

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ok doser View Post
            how many of them have a significant population of young negro males murdering other young negro males?
            Huh? I do not even know what you just said.


            and there's the risk of imprisoning innocent people
            Prison is not just if the penalty should have been death. And I do not know if the Law has been abolished. The innocent should not be put behind bars or executed.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Jacob View Post
              Huh? I do not even know what you just said.

              The vast majority of murders in the US are young black men murdering other young black men - a phenomenon that exists in no European country, which makes comparisons between the US and European countries spurious at best and intentionally dishonest at worst

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              • #22
                Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                What good does it accomplish, even if with 100% proof of guilt?
                A dead murderer cannot reoffend.
                A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                we can trust with nuclear weapons.

                Bill Clinton






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                • #23
                  Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                  A dead murderer cannot reoffend.
                  Neither can a properly confined one.
                  Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                    Neither can a properly confined one.
                    Properly does not equate to 100 percent.
                    A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                    we can trust with nuclear weapons.

                    Bill Clinton






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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                      Properly does not equate to 100 percent.
                      Then that's an argument for better prisons. Not an argument for killing.
                      Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                        Then that's an argument for better prisons. Not an argument for killing.
                        No. There is no good reason to give heinous criminals the opportunity to reoffend.

                        Example: Larry Singleton.
                        A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                        we can trust with nuclear weapons.

                        Bill Clinton






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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                          Neither can a properly confined one.
                          Define "properly confined"

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                            Define "properly confined"
                            Physically prevented from attacking anyone.
                            Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by glassjester View Post
                              Physically prevented from attacking anyone.
                              They can attack prison personnel, escape ... OR if released, go on to murder again.
                              A man you can bait with a tweet is not a man
                              we can trust with nuclear weapons.

                              Bill Clinton






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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Rusha View Post
                                No. There is no good reason to give heinous criminals the opportunity to reoffend.

                                Example: Larry Singleton.
                                I agree.
                                Your "catholic" is showing. - Sozo

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