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  • #16
    Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
    ... The system worked. A few extremists in a couple of mega-populated cities did not dictate to the nation.
    The system in 2016 effectively ignored the ballots of 3 million voters all because the Electoral College wasn't sufficiently calibrated to reflect their intensions!

    Actions speak louder than words and the message that the "system" sent to those voters in 2016 was that irrespective of all the flowery speeches by politicians praising American democracy, their 3 million votes were irrelevant and that they might as well have stayed home!

    If that's not the message that government wants to send to voters, then make the necessary changes!

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    • #17
      Originally posted by jgarden View Post
      The system in 2016 effectively ignored the ballots of 3 million (retarded) voters ....

      darn good thing too, eh?

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      • #18
        deleting
        Last edited by SabathMoon; February 3rd, 2019, 09:15 AM. Reason: deletion

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        • #19
          Originally posted by ok doser View Post
          darn good thing too, eh?
          It could have been 3 million illegals.

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          • #20
            Originally posted by ok doser View Post
            darn good thing too, eh?
            Spam is making posts with just a word or two or just a smilie in an attempt to boost your post count.
            - Revised 10 Commandments on TOL

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            • #21
              Originally posted by SabathMoon View Post
              It could have been 3 million illegals.
              got that right

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              • #22
                Originally posted by ok doser View Post
                got that right
                In the People's Republic of Trump anyone who votes against him must be an "illegal" - based on the 2018 Interim Election that would place the majority of the American electorate under suspicion!

                Time for "The Donald" to appoint yet another commission to ferret out all those millions of illegal voters (code for anyone voting against him) - democracy is laudable, but in the words of Vladimir Putin, "sometimes the people don't know what's good for them!" !

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by jgarden View Post
                  The system in 2016 effectively ignored the ballots of 3 million voters all because the Electoral College wasn't sufficiently calibrated to reflect their intensions!
                  Explain!
                  The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                  • #24
                    The Electoral College consists of 538 electors, with an absolute majority of 270 electoral votes irequired to win a presidential election.

                    Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, the legislature of each state determines the manner by which its electors are chosen. Each state's number of electors is equal to the combined total of the state's membership in the Senate and House of Representatives; currently there are 100 senators and 435 representatives.

                    The 23 Amendment provides that the District of Columbia (D.C.) is entitled to a number of electors no greater than that of the least populous state (i.e. 3)

                    - given that each state receives 2 Senate and 1 House seat irrespective of their population, the rural, less populated states that tend to vote Republican automatically received a numerical advantage over their larger, more urban counterparts that tend to vote Democrat!

                    - studies have shown that its allocation of Electoral College votes gives citizens in less populated rural states as much as four times the voting power as those in more populous urban states

                    - 48 states have adopted a "winner take all" system that can distort the Electoral College vote away from the popular vote (ie. Trump won 52% of the Texas vote in 2016 and received all 38 of Electoral College votes, Clinton won 61% of the California vote and got all 55 votes)

                    - the congressional House districts and the electoral college seats allocated during the 2020 general elections will still be based on the 2010 census - that results in both House districts and EC votes being apportioned based on a census data that is 10 to 20 years out of date and that doesn't reflect the current popular vote

                    - polling since 1967 indicates that a majority of Americans have consistently favoured the president and vice president be elected by the nationwide popular vote, instead of by the Electoral College

                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College
                    Last edited by jgarden; February 2nd, 2019, 11:05 PM.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by CatholicCrusader View Post
                      Show me somebody who snivels about the popular vote and I'll show you an loser. We won the Senate and we won the White House. Boo hoo for you. Crying about the popular vote is like crying about a football team who lost the game even though they ran more yards and the winner got more touchdowns. When you play football nobody gives a damn how many yards you run, they only care how many touchdowns you get. And when you run for an election, nobody gives a frig about the popular vote and people only care about who wins by the rules. You lost, and rightfully so

                      Oh and by the way, your post has absolutely nothing to do with the thread topic. Sorry if you hate winners. I guess that's how it is when you are a loser
                      Polling since 1967 indicates that a majority of Americans have consistently favoured the president and vice president be elected by the nationwide popular vote, instead of by the Electoral College.



                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by jgarden View Post
                          The Electoral College consists of 538 electors, with an absolute majority of 270 electoral votes irequired to win a presidential election.

                          Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, the legislature of each state determines the manner by which its electors are chosen. Each state's number of electors is equal to the combined total of the state's membership in the Senate and House of Representatives; currently there are 100 senators and 435 representatives.

                          The 23 Amendment provides that the District of Columbia (D.C.) is entitled to a number of electors no greater than that of the least populous state (i.e. 3)

                          - given that each state receives 2 Senate and 1 House seat irrespective of their population, the rural, less populated states that tend to vote Republican automatically received a numerical advantage over their larger, more urban counterparts that tend to vote Democrat!

                          - studies have shown that its allocation of Electoral College votes gives citizens in less populated rural states as much as four times the voting power as those in more populous urban states

                          - 48 states have adopted a "winner take all" system that can distort the Electoral College vote away from the popular vote (ie. Trump won 52% of the Texas vote in 2016 and received all 38 of Electoral College votes, Clinton won 61% of the California vote and got all 55 votes)

                          - the congressional House districts and the electoral college seats allocated during the 2020 general elections will still be based on the 2010 census - that results in both House districts and EC votes being apportioned based on a census data that is 10 to 20 years out of date and that doesn't reflect the current popular vote

                          - polling since 1967 indicates that a majority of Americans have consistently favoured the president and vice president be elected by the nationwide popular vote, instead of by the Electoral College

                          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United...ctoral_College
                          So your saying The EC is skewd because it is using 2010 census results?
                          The state — whatever its particular forms — always expresses itself as a collective form of property ownership. All political systems are socialistic, in that they are premised upon the subservience of individual interests to collective authority. Communism, fascism, lesser forms of state socialism, and welfarism, are all premised upon the state’s usurpation of privately-owned property. Whether one chooses to be aligned with the political "Left," "Right," or "Middle," comes down to nothing more than a preference for a particular franchise of state socialism.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by jgarden View Post
                            .......- polling since 1967 indicates that a majority of Americans have consistently favoured the president and vice president be elected by the nationwide popular vote......
                            What does that have to do with Trump's first two years in office.

                            People who favor the popular vote are stupid idiots and do not understand how the EC actually protects minorities and protects them from the tyranny of the majority. Everything the founding fathers created was to make sure that all people were represented and that one group was not able to tyrannically Lord it over everyone else. The Electoral College prevents mob rule and tyranny of the majority.

                            I don't expect you to be able to grasp something like that though, you do not have the wit for it.


                            Last edited by CatholicCrusader; February 5th, 2019, 05:12 AM.

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                            • #29


                              Hannity: We are reaping benefits of Trump's agenda for America


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                              • #30
                                "We have unleashed a revolution in American energy — the United States is now the number one producer of oil and natural gas in the world. And now, for the first time in 65 years, we are a net exporter of energy" - President Donald Trump (LINK)

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