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rexlunae

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Harvey seems a little worse to me but let's focus on all the Hollywood liberals and NBC that covered this up. NBC squashed the story and should be investigated.

How about this:

Lets agree that every single person who has ever assaulted a women and not faced justice and changed their behavior should be removed from positions of power, face whatever criminal and legal penalties apply, and not be rehabilitated until they show genuine reform. And the people who enable them should be called out, shamed, and removed from their own positions of power.

If we don't start there, what point is there in talking about who is worse (isn't one such crime bad enough?), or what political alignment has the most to answer for (hint: this isn't about partisan politics)?
 

patrick jane

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How about this:

Lets agree that every single person who has ever assaulted a women and not faced justice and changed their behavior should be removed from positions of power, face whatever criminal and legal penalties apply, and not be rehabilitated until they show genuine reform. And the people who enable them should be called out, shamed, and removed from their own positions of power.

If we don't start there, what point is there in talking about who is worse (isn't one such crime bad enough?), or what political alignment has the most to answer for (hint: this isn't about partisan politics)?
How about this, Trump changed and "faced justice" - this is about partisan politics because that's what you (the left) does. This is about demonrats and Hollywood liberals living as hypocrites and HIDING the truth for decades about Slimestein. Stop defelecting from your liberal leaders and heroes.
 

patrick jane

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Here are some of Weinstein’s victims and their stories:

  • Gwyneth Paltrow
  • Angelina Jolie
  • Mira Sorvino
  • Kate Beckinsale stated “He opened the door in his bathrobe. I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older, unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him. After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left, uneasy but unscathed.”
  • Heather Graham claimed “There was no explicit mention that to star in one of those films I had to sleep with him, but the subtext was there.” Upon avoiding his invitations to private gatherings, Graham revealed she was “never hired for one of his films, and I didn’t speak up about my experience.”
  • Cara Delevingne
  • Léa Seydoux
  • Ashley Judd
  • Lucia Evans
  • Asia Argento stated Weinstein solicited a massage then forced her to perform oral sex, she continued.“I was not willing, “I said, ‘No, no, no.”
  • Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
  • Rosanna Arquette
  • Emily Nestor
  • Emma de Caunes
  • Jessica Barth
  • Tomi-Ann Roberts
  • Katherine Kendall
  • Judith Godreche Claimed that he began “pressing against me and pulling off my sweater.” She managed to escape and professed that he intimidated her into silence.
  • Dawn Dunning
  • Louisette Geiss
  • Laura Madden
  • Zelda Perkins
  • Romola Garai “So I had to go to his hotel room in the Savoy, and he answered the door in his bathrobe,” she claimed. “I was only 18. I felt violated by it, it has stayed very clearly in my memory.”
  • Sarah Ann Masse
  • Liza Campbell
  • Zoë Brock
  • Lauren Sivan “He said, ‘Just stand there and be quiet,” Sivan alleged. “And that’s when he exposed himself and began masturbating, and I just stood there in shock and watched until he eventually ejaculated into a potted plant.”
According to a statement from Weinstein’s spokesperson, “Mr. Weinstein has further confirmed that there were never any acts of retaliation against any women for refusing his advances. Mr. Weinstein obviously can’t speak to anonymous allegations, but with respect to any women who have made allegations on the record, Mr. Weinstein believes that all of these relationships were consensual.”
While the public controversy currently centers around Weinstein’s sexual abuse of power over young women, the question remains – how young were Weinstein’s victims?
Former child actor Corey Feldman has publicly stated that, “I was molested and passed around,” while discussing how in Hollywood adult males in the industry would pass young stars “back and forth to each other.” Feldman revealed that his co-star Corey Haim was raped at 11-years-old.
Actor Elijah Wood confirmed Feldman’s claims in May 2016, describing Hollywood as a den of “vipers” in an interview, and saying “If you can imagine it, it’s probably happened.”
Wood said he was protected from abuse by his mother, who didn’t let him go to Hollywood parties, but he said other young child actors were regularly “preyed upon” by those in power.
Wood also compared Hollywood’s sexual predators with known pedophile and English TV personality Jimmy Savile.“You all grew up with Savile,” Wood said. “Jesus, it must have been devastating. Clearly something major was going on in Hollywood. It was all organized.”
X-Men director Bryan Singer is among those publicly accused of sexual abuse of young boys in Hollywood.
Was Weinstein one of the men Elijah Wood says is sexually “preying upon” young children in Hollywood? Is Weinstein one of the men Feldman says would pass young stars around?
The questions must be asked when an apparent industry of pedophilia and sexual abuse has been in the open and yet kept secret for decades.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/list-harvey-weinstein-victims-toxic-hollywood-culture/
 
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patrick jane

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Here are some of Weinstein’s victims and their stories:

  • Gwyneth Paltrow
  • Angelina Jolie
  • Mira Sorvino
  • Kate Beckinsale stated “He opened the door in his bathrobe. I was incredibly naive and young and it did not cross my mind that this older, unattractive man would expect me to have any sexual interest in him. After declining alcohol and announcing that I had school in the morning I left, uneasy but unscathed.”
  • Heather Graham claimed “There was no explicit mention that to star in one of those films I had to sleep with him, but the subtext was there.” Upon avoiding his invitations to private gatherings, Graham revealed she was “never hired for one of his films, and I didn’t speak up about my experience.”
  • Cara Delevingne
  • Léa Seydoux
  • Ashley Judd
  • Lucia Evans
  • Asia Argento stated Weinstein solicited a massage then forced her to perform oral sex, she continued.“I was not willing, “I said, ‘No, no, no.”
  • Ambra Battilana Gutierrez
  • Rosanna Arquette
  • Emily Nestor
  • Emma de Caunes
  • Jessica Barth
  • Tomi-Ann Roberts
  • Katherine Kendall
  • Judith Godreche Claimed that he began “pressing against me and pulling off my sweater.” She managed to escape and professed that he intimidated her into silence.
  • Dawn Dunning
  • Louisette Geiss
  • Laura Madden
  • Zelda Perkins
  • Romola Garai “So I had to go to his hotel room in the Savoy, and he answered the door in his bathrobe,” she claimed. “I was only 18. I felt violated by it, it has stayed very clearly in my memory.”
  • Sarah Ann Masse
  • Liza Campbell
  • Zoë Brock
  • Lauren Sivan “He said, ‘Just stand there and be quiet,” Sivan alleged. “And that’s when he exposed himself and began masturbating, and I just stood there in shock and watched until he eventually ejaculated into a potted plant.”
According to a statement from Weinstein’s spokesperson, “Mr. Weinstein has further confirmed that there were never any acts of retaliation against any women for refusing his advances. Mr. Weinstein obviously can’t speak to anonymous allegations, but with respect to any women who have made allegations on the record, Mr. Weinstein believes that all of these relationships were consensual.”
While the public controversy currently centers around Weinstein’s sexual abuse of power over young women, the question remains – how young were Weinstein’s victims?
Former child actor Corey Feldman has publicly stated that, “I was molested and passed around,” while discussing how in Hollywood adult males in the industry would pass young stars “back and forth to each other.” Feldman revealed that his co-star Corey Haim was raped at 11-years-old.
Actor Elijah Wood confirmed Feldman’s claims in May 2016, describing Hollywood as a den of “vipers” in an interview, and saying “If you can imagine it, it’s probably happened.”
Wood said he was protected from abuse by his mother, who didn’t let him go to Hollywood parties, but he said other young child actors were regularly “preyed upon” by those in power.
Wood also compared Hollywood’s sexual predators with known pedophile and English TV personality Jimmy Savile.“You all grew up with Savile,” Wood said. “Jesus, it must have been devastating. Clearly something major was going on in Hollywood. It was all organized.”
X-Men director Bryan Singer is among those publicly accused of sexual abuse of young boys in Hollywood.
Was Weinstein one of the men Elijah Wood says is sexually “preying upon” young children in Hollywood? Is Weinstein one of the men Feldman says would pass young stars around?
The questions must be asked when an apparent industry of pedophilia and sexual abuse has been in the open and yet kept secret for decades.

http://www.hangthebankers.com/list-harvey-weinstein-victims-toxic-hollywood-culture/
Corey Feldman says pedophilia runs rampant in Hollywood. He was mocked for talking about it years ago.


https://townhall.com/tipsheet/chris...ods-pedophile-problem-and-was-mocked-n2394766


http://www.breitbart.com/big-journa...scolds-corey-feldman-calling-hollywood-abuse/
 

rexlunae

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How about this, Trump changed and "faced justice"

Before we get into that, can we agree on what I said before? I don't want to just roll on to the next thing without agreeing on the basis of the discussion.

I feel like you're evading the question because you only care as far as it makes for a partisan point. The best way to clear that up would be to agree to the principle.
 

patrick jane

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Before we get into that, can we agree on what I said before? I don't want to just roll on to the next thing without agreeing on the basis of the discussion.

I feel like you're evading the question because you only care as far as it makes for a partisan point. The best way to clear that up would be to agree to the principle.
Obvious questions like "can we agree that violating women is bad?" or something similar?
 

rexlunae

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Obvious questions like "can we agree that violating women is bad?" or something similar?

And the consequent: ...and those people (men, generally) should be removed from places of power until they've faced justice and changed their ways.

I dunno why this is so hard for you. Well, I do know, but you won't admit it.
 

patrick jane

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And the consequent: ...and those people (men, generally) should be removed from places of power until they've faced justice.

I dunno why this is so hard for you. Well, I do know, but you won't admit it.
So you'd like to do away with the Bill Of Rights? Guilty with punishment before facing justice? Great idea
 

rexlunae

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So you'd like to do away with the Bill Of Rights? Guilty with punishment before facing justice? Great idea

See my original suggestion. A jury would often be part of the process of facing justice. But in Weinstein's case, the court of public opinion has been pretty effective, too, so far, once enough notice was taken.
 

rexlunae

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See my original suggestion. A jury would often be part of the process of facing justice. But in Weinstein's case, the court of public opinion has been pretty effective, too, so far, once enough notice was taken.


So, given that you're on to the next thing, I take it you're running from the topic you brought up because you backed yourself into a corner. Again.
 

patrick jane

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So, given that you're on to the next thing, I take it you're running from the topic you brought up because you backed yourself into a corner. Again.
Wrong again. Given that you're a jackass and YOU brought it up, check the posts. I always quit talking when someone is stupid enough to suggest punishments before the legal process concludes. But please continue with your amazing ideas on how the legal system should work.
 

patrick jane

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patrick jane: Harvey seems a little worse to me but let's focus on all the Hollywood liberals and NBC that covered this up. NBC squashed the story and should be investigated.


How about this:

Lets agree that every single person who has ever assaulted a women and not faced justice and changed their behavior should be removed from positions of power, face whatever criminal and legal penalties apply, and not be rehabilitated until they show genuine reform. And the people who enable them should be called out, shamed, and removed from their own positions of power.

If we don't start there, what point is there in talking about who is worse (isn't one such crime bad enough?), or what political alignment has the most to answer for (hint: this isn't about partisan politics)?
Remember this post and how you changed the subject because you are evading after being backed into a corner, again? You pondered if maybe we should remove people from their positions, send them to rehab and deem them guilty until AFTER they "face justice."
 

rexlunae

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Wrong again. Given that you're a jackass and YOU brought it up, check the posts.

You brought up Harvey Weinstein. I asked to establish the basis of the criticism, and demanded you commit to a single consistent standard regardless of partisan allegiance. Which you're still failing to do. See below.

I always quit talking when someone is stupid enough to suggest punishments before the legal process concludes. But please continue with your amazing ideas on how the legal system should work.

Weinstein hasn't yet been subject to any legal process, and you seem to have no problem ostracizing him. Some consequences don't require legal process, such as the consequence where people stop wanting anything to do with you because you're considered toxic waste. Beyond that, my first post explicitly said that they should face the legal consequences, which would naturally include indictment, trial, and conviction before any of those more formal consequences would take hold. You're the one suggesting that I want to short-circuit due process, not me. My proposition here was based on the stipulated fact of abuse, looking to what should happen when someone is rightfully and properly adjudicated to have committed it.

patrick jane: Harvey seems a little worse to me but let's focus on all the Hollywood liberals and NBC that covered this up. NBC squashed the story and should be investigated.

Remember this post and how you changed the subject because you are evading after being backed into a corner, again? You pondered if maybe we should remove people from their positions, send them to rehab and deem them guilty until AFTER they "face justice."

That post specifically was you evading my question, therefore rather than answer it, I redirected you back to my original query. The only value you see in this is the opportunity to malign liberals. You don't fundamentally care about the underlying issue. The standard I advanced is one to apply uniformly to liberals, conservatives, libertarians, anarchists, communists, anyone who runs afoul of it, but you won't give a straight answer on whether that is what you support or not, instead trying to redirect the meaningless void of discussion back to Weinstein without ever establishing what standard you are using to judge.

If we can't agree on the standard, what use is there in talking about it?
 

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The standard I advanced is one to apply uniformly to liberals, conservatives, libertarians, anarchists, communists, anyone who runs afoul of it

Indeed ... which makes *you* and the standard you are promoting morally consistent and superior for actually judging the action based on the ... action rather than the person committing the action.
 

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Trump Given A Subpoena For All Documents Relating To Assault Allegations

A woman who said Donald Trump groped her has subpoenaed his campaign for documents about “any woman alleging that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately.” Trump has denied her accusations and is fighting the subpoena.


A high-stakes legal showdown is brewing for President Donald Trump, as a woman who said he groped her has subpoenaed all documents from his campaign pertaining to “any woman alleging that Donald J. Trump touched her inappropriately.”

The subpoena — whose contents have not been previously reported — was issued in March but entered into the court file last month. The White House did not respond to a request for comment, nor did Trump’s attorney.

Summer Zervos, a former contestant on the Trump’s reality TV show The Apprentice, accused Trump of kissing and grabbing her when she went to his bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel in 2007 to discuss a possible job at the Trump Organization. After Zervos made the accusation last October, just weeks before the election, Trump denied her accusation and called it a lie.

She responded by suing him for defamation. As part of that suit, her lawyers served a subpoena on his campaign, asking that it preserve all documents it had about her.

 

patrick jane

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You brought up Harvey Weinstein. I asked to establish the basis of the criticism, and demanded you commit to a single consistent standard regardless of partisan allegiance. Which you're still failing to do. See below.



Weinstein hasn't yet been subject to any legal process, and you seem to have no problem ostracizing him. Some consequences don't require legal process, such as the consequence where people stop wanting anything to do with you because you're considered toxic waste. Beyond that, my first post explicitly said that they should face the legal consequences, which would naturally include indictment, trial, and conviction before any of those more formal consequences would take hold. You're the one suggesting that I want to short-circuit due process, not me. My proposition here was based on the stipulated fact of abuse, looking to what should happen when someone is rightfully and properly adjudicated to have committed it.



That post specifically was you evading my question, therefore rather than answer it, I redirected you back to my original query. The only value you see in this is the opportunity to malign liberals. You don't fundamentally care about the underlying issue. The standard I advanced is one to apply uniformly to liberals, conservatives, libertarians, anarchists, communists, anyone who runs afoul of it, but you won't give a straight answer on whether that is what you support or not, instead trying to redirect the meaningless void of discussion back to Weinstein without ever establishing what standard you are using to judge.

If we can't agree on the standard, what use is there in talking about it?
Yes I agree with criminals paying the consequences of their crimes when found guilty and convicted, like anyone with a brain does. Happy? Weinstein is paying the price now as dozens of victims come forward, through public opinion as you said. The same consequences that Trump was subject to. Are you upset that Weinstein seems to be in more trouble than Trump? I started this thread and I'm going to talk about the liberal socialist agenda and the hypocrisy of the left and demonrats. I'm not going to go down rabbit trails you create by deflecting from the hypocrisy of the left.

I do "fundamentally" care about the "underlying issue" but I'm not hear to discuss what I can do to stop it. I have never groped or abused a woman in any way and I don't have a solution for the"underlying" problem that some men have. I know what your motives are and that you defend the liberal cause, so stop pretending that you want work together with me to cure the world's abusive men.
 
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