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How Trump got the Republican nomination is very interesting - at this point in history because the political Establishment had expected the race to be between Hillary and Jeb Bush, with Hillary winning.

Church Christians often get important things wrong, and those here who say that the Republican party, meaning its operatives like Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, etc, were responsible for nominating Trump are wrong. Trump got nominated by grass roots support and by masses of the people.
 

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I'll be a winner in God's Eyes for respecting His Word when it comes to choosing civil leaders.

You're self-deceiving yourself again. The fact is, you're not a "WINNER" in anybody's eyes but your own.

God is very clear in Holy Scripture on choosing civil leaders. If you can show me where He would accept someone like Donald Trump who has on numerous occasions said that [our nations leading abortion provider) "Planned Parenthood does very good things", them please cite a verse or passage.

Every time I read one of your posts I have to have a roll of Tums within reach pal. I pretty much ignore you most of the time, however, once in awhile I'll check to see if you're still haunting TOL. I have absolutely no respect for you. I really mean it. I Thank God I'm not in close proximity to your presence.

I have to close now, my stomach is getting queasy just posting this. Ya know what I mean? Most likely not.

I knew that you were taking the truth in my 4 part thread on recriminalizing homosexuality a tad bit hard Grossie, but I didn't realize that you are taking it that hard.

Donald Trump is a LGBTQ activist. If elected, you and Patrick jane will love the way he legislates.
 

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How Trump got the Republican nomination is very interesting - at this point in history because the political Establishment had expected the race to be between Hillary and Jeb Bush, with Hillary winning.

Church Christians often get important things wrong, and those here who say that the Republican party, meaning its operatives like Karl Rove, Mitch McConnell, Paul Ryan, etc, were responsible for nominating Trump are wrong. Trump got nominated by grass roots support and by masses of the people.

Not so. Democrats and Libertarians (like TOL's Patrick Jane) crossed part lines to help get Donald Trump nominated. Some actually liked what Trump had to say (knowing that his social ideology is liberal like theirs, i.e. pro abortion, pro homosexuality, etc. etc.), others like Patrick Jane knew that "Trump is a joke" and want to see the Republican Party totally destroyed in November.

Senator Ted Cruz and others are working to make sure that another incident like this doesn't happen in the 2020 race, wanting to require that those who vote in republican primaries actually be registered republicans.

'Never (Again) Trump' sets sights on 2020

Grass-roots conservatives and party leadership are finding a common cause: Limiting Republican primaries to registered Republican voters.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/republican-primary-rules-donald-trump-223136#ixzz4H8PrbIZY
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior


I keep having to remind myself that rockeman doesn't stay informed like I do.

Oh yes, I forgot that you are so much more enlightened than everyone else...:rotfl:


'Never (Again) Trump' sets sights on 2020

Grass-roots conservatives and party leadership are finding a common cause: Limiting Republican primaries to registered Republican voters.

Conservatives, still reeling over the looming nomination of Donald Trump, are pushing new Republican primary rules that might have prevented the mogul’s victory in the first place: shutting out independents and Democrats from helping to pick the GOP nominee.

So, republicans will be putting forth Romney again? Jeb Bush? some other progressive globalist neocon? I am absolutely sure that the republican party will reject another Cruz candidacy, or they will destroy him if he gains traction just as they did this time. You forget so quickly who killed the only conservative candidate from taking the nomination and is wasn't Trump, it was your precious republican establishment who were singing "Never Cruz" long before they were singing "Never Trump".


And you would just love to put the final nail in the proverbial coffin by voting in your fellow secular humanist Donald Trump.

It is quite obvious that you have ignored the fact that the felon Hillary is the secular humanist that has been involved in putting every nail in America's coffin thus far....but, you prefer her, you have said as much. Pathetic!

Unfortunately for you Trumpeteers, the Republican Party Platform is more conservative than ever, and with constitutional conservatives like Ted Cruz making a strong showing, the true conservative faction of the Republican Party is far from going 'buh bye'

The conservative wing of the party may not go 'buh bye' but, as we all witnessed the republican party rejected Cruz & conservatism, refused to back his candidacy when he was the only one who had a chance to beat the Donald. The platform will not magically change the party, the voters, or the progressive globalists that bankroll the republican party at the national level so, musing that our nation will somehow make a 180 towards conservatism at this point is more of a wish than reality based in fact.


Secular humanists in GOP clothing. Need we talk about Peter Thiel's speech at the RNC again? Need we talk about all of the pro socialist speeches Trump and his daughter (I forgot her name, she's the one Donald would "date" if he weren't her father) made at the RNC?

Hmmmm, so a strong military, controlling illegal immigration, school vouchers, repeal & replace Obamacare, changing trade policies to incentivise job growth & the economy, dealing with terrorism, putting America first amongst many other plans are socialist? So, I assume your point is that the felon Hillary is not a socialist nor does she espouse socialism openly? :doh: Get a grip man! Your butthurt is showing...


Since the Republican Party Platform is super conservative (i.e. embraces traditional family values, something that Donald Trump hasn't embraced) I'll vote 3rd Party for President and continue to vote for conservative's that run on the Republican Party ticket at the local, county and state level.


I am happy for you but, please refrain from complaining about the felon Hillary given you gave her your vote by default. You two deserve each other...


If you have evidence that he has, I'd like to see it.

I did not say he had, I was contrasting the vast majority of republican politicians in Washington DC that are as far from the platform as Trump is, are you saying they are not?


I prefer to point my finger at those who call themselves 'Christian' yet don't vote for various reasons:

"Jesus is returning a week from next Thursday to clean this mess up".

Or

"I can't vote for so and so...he doesn't go to MY church!"

You have said the same of Trump, that he does not fit your model of a Christian so, you won't vote for him, or that you have disqualified that he even professes Christ upon your own judgement. I don't know the man, his heart, or if his professed Christianity is genuine but, the difference is I know that it is not my place to judge whether he is or is not a Christian, that would be God's call no? Same stands for any other Christian, you have no right or calling to judge whether their faith is genuine or not, nor to judge what God has, or has not called them to do concerning their vote.


It's those who profess to be Christian that have allowed the Republican Party and our society in general to wallow in the filth that we're seeing in today's society.

I wonder if God will have mercy on their souls when He asks them "Why didn't you do something to stop it?"

I am sure that someday all those questions will be answered for us all, heck, you may have to give account for voting for the felon Hillary by default as well. One never knows...
 

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I keep having to remind myself that rockeman doesn't stay informed like I do.


Oh yes, I forgot that you are so much more enlightened than everyone else...

Does this mean that you're finally going to accept my numerous offers and go one on one in a debate where you defend Donald Trump and I post statement after statement and action after action showing the long history of liberalism with Donald Trump?

I didn't think so.

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'Never (Again) Trump' sets sights on 2020

Grass-roots conservatives and party leadership are finding a common cause: Limiting Republican primaries to registered Republican voters.

So, republicans will be putting forth Romney again? Jeb Bush? some other progressive globalist neocon? I am absolutely sure that the republican party will reject another Cruz candidacy, or they will destroy him if he gains traction just as they did this time. You forget so quickly who killed the only conservative candidate from taking the nomination and is wasn't Trump, it was your precious republican establishment who were singing "Never Cruz" long before they were singing "Never Trump".

The point is that it was democrats and Libertarians who were responsible for Donald Trump becoming the Republican nominee for President. If you would like to review democrat and Libertarian ideology, please, let's do it in that one on one debate that I've been asking you to partake in.

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And you would just love to put the final nail in the proverbial coffin by voting in your fellow secular humanist Donald Trump.

It is quite obvious that you have ignored the fact that the felon Hillary is the secular humanist that has been involved in putting every nail in America's coffin thus far....but, you prefer her, you have said as much. Pathetic!

In a righteous world Donald Trump would be in prison for amongst other things, raping a 13 year old girl.
I've exposed the Democratic Party for the past 8 years here on TOL. We know what we're getting with Hillary Clinton, I'm trying to inform people what they will get with a sociopath like Donald Trump.

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Unfortunately for you Trumpeteers, the Republican Party Platform is more conservative than ever, and with constitutional conservatives like Ted Cruz making a strong showing, the true conservative faction of the Republican Party is far from going 'buh bye'


The conservative wing of the party may not go 'buh bye' but, as we all witnessed the republican party rejected Cruz & conservatism, refused to back his candidacy when he was the only one who had a chance to beat the Donald. The platform will not magically change the party, the voters, or the progressive globalists that bankroll the republican party at the national level so, musing that our nation will somehow make a 180 towards conservatism at this point is more of a wish than reality based in fact.

Ted Cruz made a very strong showing in the primaries even though the establishment didn't back him. Had democrats and Libertarians not been able to get involved in republican primaries, Ted Cruz would without a doubt be the Presidential nominee for the Republican Party.

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Secular humanists in GOP clothing. Need we talk about Peter Thiel's speech at the RNC again? Need we talk about all of the pro socialist speeches Trump and his daughter (I forgot her name, she's the one Donald would "date" if he weren't her father) made at the RNC?

Hmmmm, so a strong military, controlling illegal immigration, school vouchers, repeal & replace Obamacare, changing trade policies to incentivise job growth & the economy, dealing with terrorism, putting America first amongst many other plans are socialist? So, I assume your point is that the felon Hillary is not a socialist nor does she espouse socialism openly? Get a grip man! Your butthurt is showing...

All of that will be refuted in the one on one debate that we'll be doing very soon. Since Hell won't be freezing over anytime soon, I'll mention that Trump has no desire to strengthen our military morale, wants his own version of Obamacare and was for allowing Syrian refugees (many who were ISIS supporters) into the US.

Again, I follow politics, it's obvious that you don't.

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Since the Republican Party Platform is super conservative (i.e. embraces traditional family values, something that Donald Trump hasn't embraced) I'll vote 3rd Party for President and continue to vote for conservative's that run on the Republican Party ticket at the local, county and state level.

I am happy for you but, please refrain from complaining about the felon Hillary given you gave her your vote by default. You two deserve each other...

Since you and others refuse to vote for a righteous candidate running for President, it is you that is at fault here, not me.


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If you have evidence that he has, I'd like to see it.

I did not say he had, I was contrasting the vast majority of republican politicians in Washington DC that are as far from the platform as Trump is, are you saying they are not?

Yes, many are. I guess this means that you're acknowledging that Donald Trump is a hardcore liberal yet you'll still vote for him?

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I prefer to point my finger at those who call themselves 'Christian' yet don't vote for various reasons:

"Jesus is returning a week from next Thursday to clean this mess up".

Or

"I can't vote for so and so...he doesn't go to MY church!"


You have said the same of Trump, that he does not fit your model of a Christian so, you won't vote for him, or that you have disqualified that he even professes Christ upon your own judgement. I don't know the man, his heart, or if his professed Christianity is genuine but, the difference is I know that it is not my place to judge whether he is or is not a Christian, that would be God's call no? Same stands for any other Christian, you have no right or calling to judge whether their faith is genuine or not, nor to judge what God has, or has not called them to do concerning their vote.

When Donald Trump invited proud and unrepentant homosexual activist Peter Thiel to speak at the recent RNC, it was very clear what was in Donald Trump's "heart". The same goes when he somewhat recently invited drag queen and transsexual activist Bruce Jenner to use the women's restroom at any Trump property. I'll give mountains more evidence when we get together soon for that debate I've been asking you to partake in.



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It's those who profess to be Christian that have allowed the Republican Party and our society in general to wallow in the filth that we're seeing in today's society.

I wonder if God will have mercy on their souls when He asks them "Why didn't you do something to stop it?"

I am sure that someday all those questions will be answered for us all, heck, you may have to give account for voting for the felon Hillary by default as well. One never knows...

I'll photocopy my ballot which will show the pro Christian candidate that I'm voting for...

Just in case God isn't watching.
 

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"The point is that it was democrats and Libertarians who were responsible for Donald Trump becoming the Republican nominee for President."

Whether Democrats and Libertarians were responsible for Trump becoming the Republican nominee is an empirical question It is not an opinion issue.

What was Trump saying in 2015 and in 2016 that brought voters who do not usually vote or who vote Democratic or Libertarian to vote for him in the Primary?

If you can figure this out, then you can ask if his bringing new voters to vote for him in the Republican Primary was a good thing or a bad thing.
 

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The point is that it was democrats and Libertarians who were responsible for Donald Trump becoming the Republican nominee for President.


Whether Democrats and Libertarians were responsible for Trump becoming the Republican nominee is an empirical question It is not an opinion issue.

What was Trump saying in 2015 and in 2016 that brought voters who do not usually vote or who vote Democratic or Libertarian to vote for him in the Primary?

Some of those democrats and Libertarians actually liked what their fellow liberal had to say, while others loved the idea of destroying the traditional family values Republican Party.

If you can figure this out, then you can ask if his bringing new voters to vote for him in the Republican Primary was a good thing or a bad thing.

For conservatives that embrace the Republican Party Platform that has traditional family values, having a pro abortion, pro homosexual moral relativist like Donald Trump as their candidate is....(drum roll)

a very very bad thing.
 

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One thing that Trump was saying some months ago that got my attention was his questioning of Political Correctness which has been the propaganda system of the Left for years. Trump did not go over the heads of his audience and explain that Leftist Political Correctness comes directly out of the teachings of the Marxist Frankfurt School, that Christianity and the family cause fascism and Christianity and the family must both be done away with.

Trump directly challenged some of the foundations of what is called the New World Order, in addition to exposing the deceptive propaganda system of Political Correctness. Open borders is one of those foundations, as are trade deals which favor the financial and corporate elite. Trump was speaking as a nationalist, and that cannot be tolerated either by the Left or by the Conservatives in the Republican Party. An America First program sounds too much like Ron Paul for the political Establishment, both of the Democratic and Republican Parties.

George H.W. "Daddy Bush" introduced the New World Order in his speech of September 11, 1991, some years after he as a landman and carpetbagger cheated West Texas land owners on oil leases. Old Daddy Bush has been a conservative Republican along with George W.

Trump got some of his ideas from guys like Ron Paul, and more recently especially from a few people like the talk show host Michael Savage. Savage has a book out since October of 2015, called "Government Zero: No Borders, No Language, No Culture."

Michael Savage has some other books which Trump may have read or read parts of, such as "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder," "Stop the Coming Civil War" and "Great Again: How to Fix Our Crippled America."
 

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One thing that Trump was saying some months ago that got my attention was his questioning of Political Correctness which has been the propaganda system of the Left for years.
Trump did not go over the heads of his audience and explain that Leftist Political Correctness comes directly out of the teachings of the Marxist Frankfurt School, that Christianity and the family cause fascism and Christianity and the family must both be done away with.

I would love to see or hear that speech, can you link it here please? Of course Donald Trump didn't go over the heads of his audience, because discussing Marxism would be over his head.

Trump directly challenged some of the foundations of what is called the New World Order, in addition to exposing the deceptive propaganda system of Political Correctness. Open borders is one of those foundations, as are trade deals which favor the financial and corporate elite. Trump was speaking as a nationalist, and that cannot be tolerated either by the Left or by the Conservatives in the Republican Party. An America First program sounds too much like Ron Paul for the political Establishment, both of the Democratic and Republican Parties.

Donald Trump has spoken out against The New World Order? Add that to the other link that I'd asked for, cuz I've never heard The Donald speak once about the NWO.

George H.W. "Daddy Bush" introduced the New World Order in his speech of September 11, 1991, some years after he as a landman and carpetbagger cheated West Texas land owners on oil leases. Old Daddy Bush has been a conservative Republican along with George W.

Trump got some of his ideas from guys like Ron Paul, and more recently especially from a few people like the talk show host Michael Savage. Savage has a book out since October of 2015, called "Government Zero: No Borders, No Language, No Culture."

Michael Savage has some other books which Trump may have read or read parts of, such as "Liberalism Is a Mental Disorder," "Stop the Coming Civil War" and "Great Again: How to Fix Our Crippled America."

I've actually heard Mike Savage slobber on his microphone while praising Donald Trump, one of the reasons I quit listening to him (the main reason is that like you, he has Libertarian leanings).

Back to political incorrectness: Would it be considered politically incorrect for Donald Trump to call women all kinds of nasty and filthy names? I've always considered it to be bad manners, but I'll go with political incorrectness if you will.
 

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http://www.usnews.com/news/articles...st-sensitivity-resonates-with-silent-majority

"Politically Incorrect: Trump’s Battle Cry Against Sensitivity Resonates With 'Silent Majority'"

"It was the Fox News presidential debate a year ago, and Fox anchor Megyn Kelly had just challenged Trump about his remarks disparaging women. Trump's answer, Luntz says, was a stroke of genius and spelled out the animating idea behind his insurgent White House campaign.
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"I think the big problem this country has is being politically correct," the real estate mogul told Kelly. "I've been challenged by so many people, and I don't frankly have time for total political correctness. And to be honest with you, this country doesn't have time, either."

That response "was brilliant," says Luntz, who says a focus group he convened to watch the debate had an equally strong reaction. "We were dialing it and it was one of the best responses not only of that debate but any debate."

Luntz says Trump's declaration of war against political correctness – the much-maligned societal concept that one should refrain from offensive speech or action – unleashed the power of a "silent majority" fed up with what they see as touchy-feely liberalism run amok.

"When Trump uses the phrase, it is a shorthand for everything that millions of Americans feel about government, about politics, and about society and culture – that the elites decide what is proper, and everyone else has to follow the rules," Luntz says. "And the public just doesn't believe that anymore."

During Trump's meteoric rise from reality-show star to finalist competing for the Oval Office, the phrase "political correctness" shot up alongside him on the national agenda. Though it's been around for more than 220 years and became popular during the era of affirmative action in higher education, experts say, political correctness has taken on new life as a rhetorical punching bag for Trump, with his aggrieved constituency heartily cheering every blow.

In speeches, interviews and debates, the real estate mogul declared oversensitivity, fomented by President Barack Obama and the political left, is a factor in nearly every big issue facing the country – from a struggling, uneven economy and illegal immigration to the rise of violent jihadism and the scourge of the Islamic State group.

Polls show he's hitting the mark with some voters: According to a Pew Research Center survey last month, 59 percent of Americans say "too many people are easily offended" over others' language, while 39 percent believe "people need to be more careful about the language they use to avoid offending people with different backgrounds."

Yet others say the Trump-inspired backlash against an intellectual concept meant to promote tolerance and inclusion has created space for his largely white following to say bigoted, xenophobic, sexist or offensive things – even as the nation moves toward a majority-minority electorate and 53 percent of voters in the 2012 elections were women.

The phrase, "politically correct," dates to 1793, when Supreme Court Justice James Wilson complained about how U.S. citizens often failed to understand that they were the true power behind the new nation, according to the Harvard political review. His evidence: At dinner parties, a toast would too often salute "the United States," rather than, more specifically, its people – which, he reasoned, "is not politically correct."

George Lakoff, a linguist at the University of California-Berkeley, says the phrase comes from the left-right schools of thought on the role of government in society.

If parenting is the analogy, Lakoff says, the left is a nurturing model, where communication, collaboration and guidance as well as encouragement and correction are the standard. "The government is there, largely providing for everybody," he says."

This is from U.S. News and World Report, which is part of the mainstream Dinosaur media.

I wonder to what extent people now in the churches, as represented on TOL, rely upon the mainstream Dinosaur media, rather than the alternative media, mostly on the Internet? It sounds like sometimes people here are getting their ideas from the old media.

What does a Google search for "the origins of political correctness come up with?

http://www.academia.org/the-origins-of-political-correctness/

"If we look at it analytically, if we look at it historically, we quickly find out exactly what it is. Political Correctness is cultural Marxism. It is Marxism translated from economic into cultural terms. It is an effort that goes back not to the 1960s and the hippies and the peace movement, but back to World War I. If we compare the basic tenets of Political Correctness with classical Marxism the parallels are very obvious.

First of all, both are totalitarian ideologies. The totalitarian nature of Political Correctness is revealed nowhere more clearly than on college campuses, many of which at this point are small ivy covered North Koreas, where the student or faculty member who dares to cross any of the lines set up by the gender feminist or the homosexual-rights activists, or the local black or Hispanic group, or any of the other sainted “victims” groups that PC revolves around, quickly find themselves in judicial trouble. Within the small legal system of the college, they face formal charges – some star-chamber proceeding – and punishment. That is a little look into the future that Political Correctness intends for the nation as a whole.

Indeed, all ideologies are totalitarian because the essence of an ideology (I would note that conservatism correctly understood is not an ideology) is to take some philosophy and say on the basis of this philosophy certain things must be true – such as the whole of the history of our culture is the history of the oppression of women. Since reality contradicts that, reality must be forbidden. It must become forbidden to acknowledge the reality of our history. People must be forced to live a lie, and since people are naturally reluctant to live a lie, they naturally use their ears and eyes to look out and say, “Wait a minute. This isn’t true. I can see it isn’t true,” the power of the state must be put behind the demand to live a lie. That is why ideology invariably creates a totalitarian state.

Second, the cultural Marxism of Political Correctness, like economic Marxism, has a single factor explanation of history. Economic Marxism says that all of history is determined by ownership of means of production. Cultural Marxism, or Political Correctness, says that all history is determined by power, by which groups defined in terms of race, sex, etc., have power over which other groups. Nothing else matters. All literature, indeed, is about that. Everything in the past is about that one thing."

If people in the churches had listened to Dean Gotcher they might have a better understanding of Transformational Marxism, what it is and how it gave birth to political correctness. Instead, most in the churches who have ever heard of Gotcher reject him and his message about Transformational Marxism and what is called the dialectic. See I Timothy 6: 20-21, not in the translation but through Paul's use of the Greek words αντιθεσεις της ψευδωνυμου γνωσεως, antitheseis tes pseudonumou gnoseos - anti-thesis of falsley named knowledge.

The white, Christian, heterosexual males and the older culture that valued them are the thesis and the opposition to this thesis is the assertion that they are racist, sexist, anti-Semitic, and homophobic and anti-lesbian. In the Hegelian dialectic the opposition to the thesis is called the antithesis. The Greek word αντιθεσεις or antithesis, is found in I Timothy 6: 20. Other Greek words mean opposition, but αντιθεσεις is a term used by the Greek philosophy of the dialectic before the time of Christ.
 

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Any thing, or person can be made politically incorrect and therefore "racist" that is not liked by the Left, or by "Conservative" Republicans, who also use political correctness, not understanding its connection to Marxism. If someone running for office promotes policies that are nationalist and intended to help Americans, they can be called "racist" and therefore politically incorrect. Since Hitler was a nationalist rather than a Marxist internationalist, so anyone who is a nationalist is a Fascist. But all the presidents before George H. W. Bush were nationalists, to some extent, though you could place the last nationalist President being in office prior to Lyndon B. Johnson, who was a kind of transitional President leading up to George H.W. Bush, W. Bush, and his top advisors, such as Karl Rove, Dick Cheney and the other Neo-cons.

The Neo-cons in the administration of George W. Bush, Bush 43, were a strong connection between dispensationalism-Christian Zionism and the New World Order ruling elite. Christian Zionism served as a religious rationale for the war of aggression in Iraq by the Bush Neo-cons, whose origin was a group of Marxists in the 1930s at the City College of New York. This group of Leftist Marxists included Irving Howe, Nathan Glazer, Daniel Bell, and Irving Kristol. The Neo-cons are much more interested in the nation called Israel than were the Marxists of the Frankfurt School who came to the U.S. and became influential professors.
 

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Bump for norhtwye, who doesn't seem to be interested in debate (surely he doesn't have me on ignore?).

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Back to political incorrectness: Would it be considered politically incorrect for Donald Trump to call women all kinds of nasty and filthy names? I've always considered it to be bad manners, but I'll go with political incorrectness if you will.
 

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Paul in Romans 1: 28-29 has a list of traits which indicate a reprobate mind. Eris, translated in the King James as debate is one of these behaviors.

Quarreling is a good translation of eris. Continued quarreling and personally attacking another individual verbally shows that the one who continually quarrels and attacks individuals is not born again.

Debate is from eris, Strong's number 2054, "a quarrel, wrangling, contention,debate, strife, variance."

Paul uses another Greek word in I Timothy 6: 3-4,
logomachia, "If any man teach otherwise, and consent not to wholesome
words, even the words of our Lord Jesus Christ, and to the doctrine
which is according to godliness; He is proud, knowing nothing, but
doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy,
strife, railings, evil surmisings."

Logomachia is number 3055 in Strong's and is said to mean
"disputations, strife of words." Logomachia might be translated as
"word fights."

The doctrine given in Romans 1: 28-29, Romans 2: 8, I Corinthians 11:
16, II Corinthians 12: 20 and I Timothy 6: 3-4 says that to engage in
quarreling is a trait of the reprobate mind. It is also a
trait of the person in the condition of the natural man of I
Corinthians 2: 14, who cannot discern the things of the spirit.
 
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http://www.politico.com/story/2016/06/donald-trump-trans-pacific-partnership-224916

Trump on TPP

"Donald Trump eviscerated the Trans-Pacific Partnership in a speech, repeatedly calling it “a continuing rape of our country.”

Speaking Tuesday at a campaign rally in St. Clairsville, Ohio, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee made his sharpest remarks yet about the Obama administration’s as-yet unratified trade deal, calling it a “disaster” and a “rape” of the American people.

“The Trans-Pacific Partnership is another disaster done and pushed by special interests who want to rape our country, just a continuing rape of our country,” Trump said. “That’s what it is, too. It’s a harsh word: It’s a rape of our country.”

He then linked the deal to presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton, citing her support for it as secretary of state.

“This is done by wealthy people that want to take advantage of us and that want to assign another partnership. So Hillary Clinton, not so long ago, said this was the gold standard of trade pacts,” Trump said. “The gold standard.”

The TPP is a trade deal of the ruling elite to benefit them at the expense of the U.S. people. People in the churches who get most of their ideas from the dinosaur media do not seem to understand that the reason Trump has so many followers is exactly because he is opposing the political Establishment and the financial and corporate ruling elite, called the New World Order.

And that same ruling elite has created the open border policy for the U.S., inviting thousands and maybe eventually millions of Islamic "refugees" from the Middle East and northern Africa into the country. Among these "refugees," mostly men of military age, are an unknown number of guys the federal government a few years ago would have identified as dangerous terrorists.

Trump initially gained supporters for opposing this policy of bringing in Islamics who are of military age. All those masses of Americans who oppose bringing in large numbers of Islamics who will not become part of our culture and will not contribute to our economy may not understand that the elite are bringing in these people to bring down our culture. But those who do not understand this still do no want them in the country because - they are, as a group, a bigger threat to us than the people who come across the Southern border from Mexico and Central America, who do often take low paying jobs in our country.
 

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Since the Republican Party Platform is super conservative (i.e. embraces traditional family values, something that Donald Trump hasn't embraced) I'll vote 3rd Party for President and continue to vote for conservative's that run on the Republican Party ticket at the local, county and state level.

You consider the Republicans big government ideas to be conservative?
 
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