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  • Originally posted by Granite View Post
    It must vary state to state. In NH, the executive council pretty much determined after the video imbroglio to refuse federal dollars earmarked for Planned Parenthood, killing PP's contract in New Hampshire.

    Proving the point of this thread, absolutely no alternatives were proposed by the council to fill the void for those services no longer able to be offered by PP clinics.

    Stop lying for PP
    http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...d-chris-sununu
    Sununu, who is considering a bid for governor of New Hampshire, had previously voted to allot a portion of Title X funds for Planned Parenthood “that go to very important health-care needs,” he says. Although Sununu has “never been a fan” of Planned Parenthood, he says that in his district, its clinics are women’s “only choice” for certain health services.

    The launch of the congressional investigation, however, prompted Sununu to search for alternative providers. He asked the New Hampshire Department of Health and Human Services to aid in his search.

    New Hampshire has a variety of clinics and hospitals with different services and specializations. “The options are definitely there,” Sununu says. “We need to entice those providers to bid” on this newly available contract, especially because “more-rural areas do have sparser health care.”

    Sununu laments that Democrats in his sate “seem to go out of their way to ignore” the urgent questions raised by the videos released by CMP. Governor Maggie Hassan has refused to investigate New Hampshire’s Planned Parenthood clinics based on what she calls “a rumor.” “We do not launch criminal investigations in the state of New Hampshire because somebody edits a tape,” she said. Hassan declined to help expand women’s alternatives to Planned Parenthood.

    That decision “made no sense,” Sununu says. “It was beyond belief. How providing choices is ever a negative thing, I can’t imagine. She’s trying to justify the monopolistic position Planned Parenthood has put themselves in.”

    The councilor does not view the debate over funding Planned Parenthood as a pro-choice versus pro-life issue — the issue is whether the law is being violated, he says. “Particularly on the Republican side, it’s not political, since our politicians don’t receive campaign donations from Planned Parenthood,” he says. “The governor’s misplaced passion for the organization indicates politics.”

    There is only one reason why liberals are holding up the process to find alternatives and that is PP provides and lobbies for abortions.

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    • Stop lying for PP
      I'm not. And I happen to live in New Hampshire, you idiot.




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      • Originally posted by jeffblue101 View Post
        Stop lying for PP
        http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...d-chris-sununu

        There is only one reason why liberals are holding up the process to find alternatives and that is PP provides and lobbies for abortions.
        Sununu is a moron. He claims there are alternatives out there and then claims PP is a monopoly. You cannot have both.
        -Q
        "The Man. The Myth. The Legend!"

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        • Originally posted by Granite View Post
          I'm not. And I happen to live in New Hampshire, you idiot.
          Your post gives a false impression on what is happening in NH after PP was defunded. Those who are responsible for defunding PP are indeed looking for alternatives

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          • Originally posted by jeffblue101 View Post
            Your post gives a false impression on what is happening in NH after PP was defunded. Those who are responsible for defunding PP are indeed looking for alternatives
            They suggested that alternatives be found, and that's it. There is no active investigation or interest on the part of Republicans in the state house to do this at all, they detest Governor Hassan, and both sides are locked in a very nasty budget struggle right now. The state GOP is not going to make finding alternative sources of contraception and STD treatment a priority.




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            • Originally posted by jeffblue101 View Post
              Your post gives a false impression on what is happening in NH after PP was defunded. Those who are responsible for defunding PP are indeed looking for alternatives
              Perhaps they should have searched first.
              -Q
              "The Man. The Myth. The Legend!"

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              • Originally posted by Quetzal View Post
                Sununu is a moron. He claims there are alternatives out there and then claims PP is a monopoly. You cannot have both.
                He never said that. Instead he said PP has monopolzied the market and now he is personaluly looking for replacements after defunding. Please dont misrepresents someone's words to make a faulty claim of condradiction

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                • Originally posted by jeffblue101 View Post
                  He never said that. Instead he said PP has monopolzied the market and now he is personaluly looking for replacements after defunding. Please dont misrepresents someone's words to make a faulty claim of condradiction
                  Yeah, we certainly wouldn't want that on this forum, now would we? Also, how have they monopolized the market?
                  -Q
                  "The Man. The Myth. The Legend!"

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                  • Originally posted by Granite View Post
                    They suggested that alternatives be found, and that's it. There is no active investigation or interest on the part of Republicans in the state house to do this at all, they detest Governor Hassan, and both sides are locked in a very nasty budget struggle right now. The state GOP is not going to make finding alternative sources of contraception and STD treatment a priority.
                    How is it the rebulicans fault that alternatives wont be found fast enough when Hassan refused to help?

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                    • Originally posted by jeffblue101 View Post
                      How is it the rebulicans fault that alternatives wont be found fast enough when Hassan refused to help?
                      That's a pretty big mischaracterization (typical of Chris Sununu--the family's a pack of snakes in the grass). PP was meeting the needs of the public already. There was no need to actively seek out any kind of alternatives. Things were working just fine in my state.

                      Then this video fiasco hit, and Planned Parenthood got radioactive real quick. Quick civics lesson: The executive council is an elected group of five who serve to check the governor's power in New Hampshire. The governor doesn't have the ability to override the council's veto when it comes to state contracts. (The governor of NH actually has quite limited authority and deals with the fourth largest elected body of representatives in the world.) To say Hassan "refused to help" implies she has far more power than she does, or that there was a pre-existing problem she should've tried to fix. This issue is self-inflicted by the GOP (they hold a 3-2 advantage in the council) and to dump this on the governor's frankly a big crock.




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                      • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                        The Federal government presents grants and contributions to Planned Parenthood, but is not a purchaser of goods nor of services.
                        Originally posted by Quetzal View Post
                        Actually, I am pretty sure it is, just not in a traditional sense.
                        The Federal Government's dealings with Planned Parenthood fits very well with the traditional definition of donations, but poorly with the traditional definition of purchase.
                        Learn to read what is written.

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                        The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                        ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                        • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                          The Federal Government's dealings with Planned Parenthood fits very well with the traditional definition of donations, but poorly with the traditional definition of purchase.
                          Well, again: No, they don't. You don't seem to understand what you're talking about.




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                          • Originally posted by Granite View Post
                            Well, again: No, they don't. You don't seem to understand what you're talking about.
                            Planned Parenthood is the recipient of Title X Grants from the Federal Government.

                            In case you have no clue (as always) about what that is, here is the definition:
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                            grant
                            1. a sum of money given by an organization, especially a government, for a particular purpose.

                            synonyms:
                            endowment, subvention, award, donation, bursary, allowance, subsidy, contribution, handout, allocation, gift;
                            _____
                            A grant is a donation, plain and simple.

                            You may not have noticed, but the word "purchase" is not one of the synonyms for "grant", but "donation" is a synonym.
                            Learn to read what is written.

                            _____
                            The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                            ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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                            • Originally posted by genuineoriginal View Post
                              Planned Parenthood is the recipient of Title X Grants from the Federal Government.

                              In case you have no clue (as always) about what that is, here is the definition:
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                              grant
                              1. a sum of money given by an organization, especially a government, for a particular purpose.

                              synonyms:
                              endowment, subvention, award, donation, bursary, allowance, subsidy, contribution, handout, allocation, gift;
                              _____
                              A grant is a donation, plain and simple.

                              You may not have noticed, but the word "purchase" is not one of the synonyms for "grant", but "donation" is a synonym.
                              Resorting to a dictionary when you're clueless just makes you look like a bigger boob.




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                              • Originally posted by Granite View Post
                                Resorting to a dictionary when you're clueless just makes you look like a bigger boob.
                                I am the one that knows that a grant is a donation, you are the one that still can't figure it out.
                                Learn to read what is written.

                                _____
                                The people who are supposed to be experts and who claim to understand the science are precisely the people who are blind to the evidence.
                                ~ Dr Freeman Dyson

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