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    Hitler and the socialist dream
    https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html

    It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical.


    COMMENT: As has been stated already, yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done.

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    Democratic Socialism is Still Socialism

    What is democratic socialism? What makes it different than regular socialism? Has it been tried? Could it work in the United States? Comedian and political commentator Steven Crowder, host of Louder With Crowder, explains.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post
      Hitler and the socialist dream
      https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html

      It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical.


      COMMENT: As has been stated already, yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done.
      Duh! Hitler was a Dictator and his Nazi empire was going to be all about him, not the people.
      He was also a Christian from childhood........... you see? It's easy to chuck titles about. But it's daft.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post
        Hitler and the socialist dream
        https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-e...m-1186455.html

        It is now clear beyond all reasonable doubt that Hitler and his associates believed they were socialists, and that others, including democratic socialists, thought so too. The title of National Socialism was not hypocritical.


        COMMENT: As has been stated already, yes, Hitler and the Nazis were socialists, for the simple reasons that they were staunchly anti-capitalist and believed that the means of production in their society should be controlled by a centralized state power. That is very clear from their writings, their words and their actions. Done and done.
        14 CHARACTERISTICS OF FASCISM:
        1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism
          Fascist regimes tend to make constant use of patriotic mottos, slogans, symbols, songs, and other paraphernalia. Flags are seen everywhere, as are flag symbols on clothing and in public displays.
        2. Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights
          Because of fear of enemies and the need for security, the people in fascist regimes are persuaded that human rights can be ignored in certain cases because of "need." The people tend to look the other way or even approve of torture, summary executions, assassinations, long incarcerations of prisoners, etc.
        3. Identification of Enemies/Scapegoats as a Unifying Cause
          The people are rallied into a unifying patriotic frenzy over the need to eliminate a perceived common threat or foe: racial , ethnic or religious minorities; liberals; communists; socialists, terrorists, etc.
        4. Supremacy of the Military
          Even when there are widespread domestic problems, the military is given a disproportionate amount of government funding, and the domestic agenda is neglected. Soldiers and military service are glamorized.
        5. Rampant Sexism
          The governments of fascist nations tend to be almost exclusively male-dominated. Under fascist regimes, traditional gender roles are made more rigid. Opposition to abortion is high, as is homophobia and anti-gay legislation and national policy.
        6. Controlled Mass Media
          Sometimes to media is directly controlled by the government, but in other cases, the media is indirectly controlled by government regulation, or sympathetic media spokespeople and executives. Censorship, especially in war time, is very common.
        7. Obsession with National Security
          Fear is used as a motivational tool by the government over the masses.
        8. Religion and Government are Intertwined
          Governments in fascist nations tend to use the most common religion in the nation as a tool to manipulate public opinion. Religious rhetoric and terminology is common from government leaders, even when the major tenets of the religion are diametrically opposed to the government's policies or actions.
        9. Corporate Power is Protected
          The industrial and business aristocracy of a fascist nation often are the ones who put the government leaders into power, creating a mutually beneficial business/government relationship and power elite.
        10. Labor Power is Suppressed
          Because the organizing power of labor is the only real threat to a fascist government, labor unions are either eliminated entirely, or are severely suppressed .
        11. Disdain for Intellectuals and the Arts
          Fascist nations tend to promote and tolerate open hostility to higher education, and academia. It is not uncommon for professors and other academics to be censored or even arrested. Free expression in the arts is openly attacked, and governments often refuse to fund the arts.
        12. Obsession with Crime and Punishment
          Under fascist regimes, the police are given almost limitless power to enforce laws. The people are often willing to overlook police abuses and even forego civil liberties in the name of patriotism. There is often a national police force with virtually unlimited power in fascist nations.
        13. Rampant Cronyism and Corruption
          Fascist regimes almost always are governed by groups of friends and associates who appoint each other to government positions and use governmental power and authority to protect their friends from accountability. It is not uncommon in fascist regimes for national resources and even treasures to be appropriated or even outright stolen by government leaders.
        14. Fraudulent Elections
          Sometimes elections in fascist nations are a complete sham. Other times elections are manipulated by smear campaigns against or even assassination of opposition candidates, use of legislation to control voting numbers or political district boundaries, and manipulation of the media. Fascist nations also typically use their judiciaries to manipulate or control elections.

        https://www.ratical.org/ratville/CAH/fasci14chars.html

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        National Socialism is a misnomer - it was a political movement that was predicated on loyalty to an authoritarian leader - neither Hitler nor Mussolini were philosophically inclined and fascism was never established on a coherent political ideology whose principles would extend beyond their personality-cults!

        Given that both Hitler and Mussolini chose to support General Franco and the right-wing against the socialists/communists during the Spanish Civil War negates any argument that they were sympathetic to left-wing causes!

        The following are those characteristics that fascist and communist regimes don't have in common

        1. Powerful and Continuing Nationalism

        5. Rampant Sexism

        8. Religion and Government are Intertwined

        9. Corporate Power is Protected

        10. Labor Power is Suppressed
        Last edited by jgarden; June 5th, 2020, 03:12 PM.

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        • #5
          jgarden and eider - Dumb and Dumber. But its impossible to tell which one is Dumber

          Originally posted by way 2 go View Post

          of course nazis were left wing

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          • #6
            Bill Whittle and Andrew Klavan explain why NAZIS are like Democrats, not Republicans
            https://therightscoop.com/bill-whitt...t-republicans/

            In an excellent episode of Klavan & Whittle, Bill and Andrew explain why the correct comparison in our country to Nazis is the Democratic Party, despite the often-used suggestion that the Nazis were ‘right-wing’.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post
              Bill Whittle and Andrew Klavan explain why NAZIS are like Democrats, not Republicans
              https://therightscoop.com/bill-whitt...t-republicans/

              In an excellent episode of Klavan & Whittle, Bill and Andrew explain why the correct comparison in our country to Nazis is the Democratic Party, despite the often-used suggestion that the Nazis were ‘right-wing’.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post
                  Dinesh D'Souza?!

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinesh_D%27Souza

                  Well this is fun isn't it?

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                    Dinesh D'Souza?!

                    Yes, Dinesh D'Souza.

                    Dinesh D'Souza = Good Man
                    You = Stupid Tool

                    Basic math.
                    Last edited by Trump Gurl; June 5th, 2020, 02:33 PM.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post


                      Yes, Dinesh D'Souza.

                      Dinesh D'Souza = Good Man
                      You = Stupid Toll

                      Basic math.
                      He's a a far right conspiracy nut who's books are roundly panned for the bunk that they are. You're in no position to talk about other people being stupid if you lap his garbage up. Oh, and at least I've never been charged with a felony or fined thousands either for making illegal campaign contributions.

                      Basic math?

                      Learn some.

                      Well this is fun isn't it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
                        He's a
                        good man.



                        Dinesh D'Souza = Good Man
                        You = Stupid Tool

                        Basic math.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Trump Gurl View Post

                          good man.



                          Dinesh D'Souza = Good Man
                          You = Stupid Tool

                          Basic math.
                          No, he's a far right conspiracy nut who is roundly panned for writing bunk and who made illegal contributions to a senate campaign. You are just plain dumb.
                          Well this is fun isn't it?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                            No, he's a far right conspiracy nut who is roundly panned for writing bunk and who made illegal contributions to a senate campaign. You are just plain dumb.
                            LOL

                            Who that is not a Nazi leftard thinks the way you do? That's right: No one.

                            LOLOL
                            What evidence do you have to support your claim that what you call "evidence" is evidence?

                            MAGA (Masking America's Gullible Apes)

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by 7djengo7 View Post

                              LOL

                              Who that is not a Nazi leftard thinks the way you do? That's right: No one.

                              LOLOL
                              It's well known that D'Souza is a far right conspiracy nut and real not interested in your unique brand of juvenile thickness this evening.

                              Well this is fun isn't it?

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