This will likely be the last post I make on this thread unless I am shocked at the intellectual honesty that someone unexpectedly shows up here with....
The right vs. left, what's the difference? I cannot say it better than other already has...
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The fact that Nazism is left wing is the biggest no brainer in all of political theory and thought! It's perfectly asinine to think anything else! The only way anyone can suggest otherwise is if they are either lying in order to distance the left from the embarrassment of history that the Nazis are and instead pin that embarrassment onto their political rivals or else its because they are ignoramuses who believe what they are told by others on the left instead of reading and thus knowing for themselves not only the facts of history but of modern political thought. In short, the notion that Nazism is right wing is a product of the public school system, the decidedly left wing professoriate in higher education and the left wing media complex (i.e. the left in general).
Clete
The right vs. left, what's the difference? I cannot say it better than other already has...
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The right consists of free-market capitalists, who think the individual is the primary political unit, believes in property rights, and is generally distrustful of the administrative state and government solutions to social problems. They view family and civil institutions such as church as needed checks on state power. These people don’t think government should force a business to provide employee birth control or think law should coerce bakers to make cakes against their conscience. They think the solution to bad speech is more speech; the solution to gun violence is more guns. These people talk about “freedom” — the method individual decisions. (The counterexample might be gay marriage but that is a positive right (give me something) instead of a negative right (leave me alone)).
The left believes the opposite. These people are distrustful of the excesses and inequality capitalism produces. They give primacy to group rights and identity. They believe factors like race, ethnicity, and gender compose the primary political units. They don’t believe in strong property rights. They believe it is the government’s responsibility to solve social problems. They call for public intervention to “equalize” disparities and render our social fabric more inclusive (as they define it). They believe the free market has failed to solve issues like campaign finance, income inequality, minimum wage, access to healthcare, and righting past injustices. These people talk about “democracy” — the method of collective decisions.
By these definitions the Nazis were firmly on the left. National Socialism was a collectivist authoritarian movement run by “social justice warriors.” That this brand of “justice” benefited only some based on immutable characteristics perfectly aligns with the modern brand. The Nazi ideal embraced identity politics based on the primacy of the people or “volk” and invoked state-based solutions for every possible problem. It was nation-based socialism — the nation being especially important to those who bled in the Great War.
As Hayek wrote in 1933, the year the Nazis took power:
t is more than probable that the real meaning of the German revolution is that the long dreaded expansion of communism into the heart of Europe has taken place but is not recognized because the fundamental similarity of methods and ideas is hidden by the difference in phraseology and the privileged groups. - ‘The Road to Serfdom’ - emphasis added
Nazism and socialism competed with the Enlightenment-based individualism of Locke, Smith, Montesquieu, and others who profoundly influenced the American founding and define the modern American right at its best.
These thinkers fit easily with Hayek’s Austrian School of Economics, which opposed both the imperialist German Historical School and the Marxists. - from The Nazis Were Leftists, Deal With It by Paul H Jossey
The left believes the opposite. These people are distrustful of the excesses and inequality capitalism produces. They give primacy to group rights and identity. They believe factors like race, ethnicity, and gender compose the primary political units. They don’t believe in strong property rights. They believe it is the government’s responsibility to solve social problems. They call for public intervention to “equalize” disparities and render our social fabric more inclusive (as they define it). They believe the free market has failed to solve issues like campaign finance, income inequality, minimum wage, access to healthcare, and righting past injustices. These people talk about “democracy” — the method of collective decisions.
By these definitions the Nazis were firmly on the left. National Socialism was a collectivist authoritarian movement run by “social justice warriors.” That this brand of “justice” benefited only some based on immutable characteristics perfectly aligns with the modern brand. The Nazi ideal embraced identity politics based on the primacy of the people or “volk” and invoked state-based solutions for every possible problem. It was nation-based socialism — the nation being especially important to those who bled in the Great War.
As Hayek wrote in 1933, the year the Nazis took power:
t is more than probable that the real meaning of the German revolution is that the long dreaded expansion of communism into the heart of Europe has taken place but is not recognized because the fundamental similarity of methods and ideas is hidden by the difference in phraseology and the privileged groups. - ‘The Road to Serfdom’ - emphasis added
Nazism and socialism competed with the Enlightenment-based individualism of Locke, Smith, Montesquieu, and others who profoundly influenced the American founding and define the modern American right at its best.
These thinkers fit easily with Hayek’s Austrian School of Economics, which opposed both the imperialist German Historical School and the Marxists. - from The Nazis Were Leftists, Deal With It by Paul H Jossey
The fact that Nazism is left wing is the biggest no brainer in all of political theory and thought! It's perfectly asinine to think anything else! The only way anyone can suggest otherwise is if they are either lying in order to distance the left from the embarrassment of history that the Nazis are and instead pin that embarrassment onto their political rivals or else its because they are ignoramuses who believe what they are told by others on the left instead of reading and thus knowing for themselves not only the facts of history but of modern political thought. In short, the notion that Nazism is right wing is a product of the public school system, the decidedly left wing professoriate in higher education and the left wing media complex (i.e. the left in general).
Clete
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