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    Trump ordered state governors to allow churches to open. Question: Will Pastor Bob be holding services this Sunday?

    Trump declares houses of worship as essential

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jPP8IeOJj8


  • #2
    Originally posted by User Name View Post
    Trump ordered state governors to allow churches to open. Question: Will Pastor Bob be holding services this Sunday?

    Trump declares houses of worship as essential

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jPP8IeOJj8

    Unbelievable. The irresponsibility of this man just knows no bounds. He will "override" governors who don't comply? This is just another political stunt to appease MAGA evangelicals to bolster his election campaign. Truly pathetic.
    Well this is fun isn't it?

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    • #3
      I think Trump should mobilize the national guard to make sure people go to church this Sunday, Church, not synagogues, temples or mosques. Just churches, preferably not Catholic churches though, they are a cult

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

        Unbelievable. The irresponsibility of this man just knows no bounds. He will "override" governors who don't comply? This is just another political stunt to appease MAGA evangelicals to bolster his election campaign. Truly pathetic.
        Rage on little artie, rage on

        Allow Orangemanbad to consume your twisted soul.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

          Unbelievable. The irresponsibility of this man just knows no bounds. He will "override" governors who don't comply? This is just another political stunt to appease MAGA evangelicals to bolster his election campaign. Truly pathetic.
          Trump is right to uphold the Bill of Rights.

          The governors are dead wrong to oppose our inalienable rights which we were endowed with by the Creator.

          We the people have these inalienable rights not government

          The Constitution was written to protect the people from government


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          "And they continued stedfastly in the apostles' doctrine and fellowship and in breaking of bread and in prayers." Acts 2:42

          "Fulfil ye my joy, that ye be likeminded, having the same love, being of one accord, of one mind" Philippians 2:2

          Pro scripture = Protestant

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          • #6
            Originally posted by oatmeal View Post

            Trump is right to uphold the Bill of Rights.

            The governors are dead wrong to oppose our inalienable rights which we were endowed with by the Creator.

            We the people have these inalienable rights not government

            The Constitution was written to protect the people from government


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            According to his press secretary there are a list of guidelines for churches. Are you suggesting that not even those are appropriate or Constitutional because they might infringe on someone's inalienable rights?
            Please note that you are relying on the same amendment that allows for a free press that Trump hates so much.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post
              This is just another political stunt to appease MAGA evangelicals to bolster his election campaign.

              You're too blinded by your Orangemanbad rage to realize it will backfire on him, that all of his MAGA evangelical base will be killed by the scary 'Ronavirus monster before November.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by ok doser View Post


                You're too blinded by your Orangemanbad rage to realize it will backfire on him, that all of his MAGA evangelical base will be killed by the scary 'Ronavirus monster before November.
                Actually I was asking a real question based on the First Amendment. Are there no limits to someone's First Amendment religious rights?
                But you may be correct, between exposure to this corona virus and bleach drinking...

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Jonahdog View Post

                  According to his press secretary there are a list of guidelines for churches. Are you suggesting that not even those are appropriate or Constitutional because they might infringe on someone's inalienable rights?
                  Please note that you are relying on the same amendment that allows for a free press that Trump hates so much.
                  Depends on if they are voluntary or not. Emergencies are always a special consideration (as are wars where you or I can be forced by the draft). At that point, you have those who push one way, and those who push the other.

                  Rather, was Trump correct or not? Are churches essential in America? Yep, they are, lest you have an atheist state, by the same token. I don't get why anybody would want to push this hard. The outbalanced push is self-damaging to all our freedom. Soooo.... a healthy tension will always exist (as is evidenced here in thread). There is a need to both see the parameters, and push them every time we bump up against them (as is also the case now). I see threads like this as a healthy expression of those existing freedoms.

                  I was at the store, the governor of our state recommended we keep our masks on. There were only about 25% of the people wearing them (no arrests were made).
                  My New Years Resolution: 1 Peter 3:15
                  Omniscient without man's qualification. John 1:3 "Nothing"
                  Colossians 1:17 "Nothing" John 15:5 "Nothing"
                  Mighty, ALL mighty (omnipotent). Revelation 1:8
                  No possible limitation Isaiah 40:25 Joshua 24:15
                  Infinite (Omnipresent) Psalm 145:3 Hebrews 4:13

                  ? Yep

                  Now to Him who is able to do exceeding abundantly above all that we ask or think... Amen. -Ephesians 3:20 & 21

                  ... when I became an adult, I set aside childish ways. Titus 3:10 Ephesians 4:29-32; 5:11

                  Separation of church and State is not atheism "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights..."

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Lon View Post

                    Rather, was Trump correct or not? Are churches essential in America?
                    Much to Donald Trump's dismay, he has no authority over the 50 States state of emergency clauses found in their constitution, which prohibiting public gatherings during a deadly pandemic falls under.

                    Yep, they are, lest you have an atheist state, by the same token. I don't get why anybody would want to push this hard.
                    Maybe because most people know that deadly airborne viruses don't stop at the entrance to a church?

                    The CDC released a report this week highlighting the spread of the coronavirus at a rural church in Arkansas in March. Among 92 attendees, 35 developed confirmed cases of the virus and three died, according to the agency. Another 26 cases linked to the church took place in the surrounding community, the agency said, leading to one death.

                    What are your thoughts on these pastors posting a disclaimer at their front entrance before services?

                    "Welcome to the church of the almighty dollar. Feel free to blow off the dust from the tithing plates, as they haven't gotten much use lately. BTW, for every 100 congregants, 1/3 of you will contract a deadly airborne virus that has no vaccine developed yet, and 3 of you will die..

                    Have a nice day!"

                    The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
                    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
                    http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

                      Much to Donald Trump's dismay, he has no authority over the 50 States state of emergency clauses found in their constitution, which prohibiting public gatherings during a deadly pandemic falls under.



                      Maybe because most people know that deadly airborne viruses don't stop at the entrance to a church?

                      The CDC released a report this week highlighting the spread of the coronavirus at a rural church in Arkansas in March. Among 92 attendees, 35 developed confirmed cases of the virus and three died, according to the agency. Another 26 cases linked to the church took place in the surrounding community, the agency said, leading to one death.

                      What are your thoughts on these pastors posting a disclaimer at their front entrance before services?

                      "Welcome to the church of the almighty dollar. Feel free to blow off the dust from the tithing plates, as they haven't gotten much use lately. BTW, for every 100 congregants, 1/3 of you will contract a deadly airborne virus that has no vaccine developed yet, and 3 of you will die..

                      Have a nice day!"
                      Wow, an aCW post that actually makes a fair bit of sense....
                      Well this is fun isn't it?

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                        Wow, an aCW post that actually makes a fair bit of sense....
                        Like you know anything about State Constitutions and their state of emergency clauses.
                        The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
                        http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
                        http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by aCultureWarrior View Post

                          Like you know anything about State Constitutions and their state of emergency clauses.
                          A fair bit in fact but you carry on with the same. Makes a pleasant and unexpected change!

                          Well this is fun isn't it?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Arthur Brain View Post

                            A fair bit in fact but you carry on with the same. Makes a pleasant and unexpected change!

                            Other than the posts that I've written on the subject that you've read at the other forum, what do you know about state of emergency clauses and how in this case they don't even come close to violating 1st Amendment constitutional rights?
                            The very long history of Donald Trump's pro homosexual and transgender activism, before and during his Presidency, can be found on page 141, post # 2113 and #2114.
                            http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336963
                            http://theologyonline.com/showthread...=1#post5336964

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jonahdog View Post
                              ... free press that Trump hates so much.
                              I suspect you are misinformed wrt Trump's disgust with much of the MSM

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