COVID-19 Data Tracking

Jonahdog

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My daughter is an infectious disease doc at a NYC hospital. Concerned about where this goes does not even come close to her attitude. There are many many things we do not yet know about this virus. She is seeing more younger people with serious cases and some anecdotal evidence of neurologic symptoms. People with few symptoms already have major pulmonary issues.
Numbers were skyrocketing.
 

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Physicians (per 1,000 people) - Country Ranking

Definition: Physicians include generalist and specialist medical practitioners.

Source: World Health Organization's Global Health Workforce Statistics, OECD, supplemented by country data.

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1Cuba8.192017
2Monaco6.562014
3San Marino6.152014
4Sweden5.402016
5Austria5.142016
6Georgia5.102015
7Uruguay5.052017
8Norway4.632017
9Greece4.592016
10Denmark4.462016
11Lithuania4.342016
12Czech Republic4.312016
13Switzerland4.242016
14Germany4.212016
15Italy4.092017
16Belarus4.082014
17Spain4.072016
18Russia4.012016
19Bulgaria3.992014
20Iceland3.972017
21Argentina3.962017
22Malta3.832015
23Finland3.812016
24Dem. People's Rep. Korea3.672017
25Australia3.592016
26Netherlands3.512016
27Estonia3.472016
28Azerbaijan3.452014
29Portugal3.342016
30Andorra3.332015
31Belgium3.322016
32Kazakhstan3.252014
33France3.232016
34Hungary3.232016
35Israel3.222016
36Moldova3.202015
37Latvia3.192016
38Serbia3.132016
39Ireland3.092017
40Luxembourg3.032017
41New Zealand3.032016
42Ukraine3.012014
43Croatia3.002016
44Slovenia3.002016
45Armenia2.902014
46Mongolia2.892016
47North Macedonia2.872015
48United Kingdom2.812017
49Antigua and Barbuda2.762017
50Trinidad and Tobago2.672015
51Canada2.612017
52United States2.592016
The United States ranks 52nd in terms of doctors per 1000 - if things become dire, would Americans swallow their pride and head to Cuba for medical care?

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind...YS.ZS/rankings

Not likely but there are fewer ID docs than orthos in the US. $ is likely the reason. Orthos make a ton, ID docs not so much
 

Aimiel

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Physicians (per 1,000 people) - Country Ranking

The United States ranks 52nd in terms of doctors per 1000 - if things become dire, would Americans swallow their pride and head to Cuba for medical care?

https://www.indexmundi.com/facts/ind...YS.ZS/rankings
I daresay most LPN's in the US are closer to a doctor than those listed in many countries on the list. Our systems and practices exceed most countries.
 

The Berean

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Great news!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja.../#291293fb5111

Abbott Laboratories won U.S. approval for its molecular test for the Coronavirus strain COVID-19, which will be used by hospitals and academic medical centers to speed diagnostic capabilities for the disease sweeping across the country.

The “emergency use authorization” from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration allows Abbott to begin shipping 150,000 laboratory tests immediately, the company said Wednesday. The tests are run on Abbott’s “m2000TM RealTime System,” which is already located in more than 175 U.S hospitals and academic medical centers...

Abbott said the company will begin scaling up production at its U.S. manufacturing plant “to reach capacity for 1 million tests per week by end of March.”..

Becton Dickinson rival Roche, which already received an emergency approval for the first U.S. approved test for Coronavirus strain COVID-19, said it began shipping an initial 400,000 test kids Friday (which is today).



Roche also shipped out 400,000 test kits four days ago.

https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en...ng-under-fda-emergency-use-authorization.html
 

ok doser

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Great news!

https://www.forbes.com/sites/bruceja.../#291293fb5111

Abbott Laboratories won U.S. approval for its molecular test for the Coronavirus strain COVID-19, which will be used by hospitals and academic medical centers to speed diagnostic capabilities for the disease sweeping across the country.

The “emergency use authorization” from the U.S. Food and Drug Administration allows Abbott to begin shipping 150,000 laboratory tests immediately, the company said Wednesday. The tests are run on Abbott’s “m2000TM RealTime System,” which is already located in more than 175 U.S hospitals and academic medical centers...

Abbott said the company will begin scaling up production at its U.S. manufacturing plant “to reach capacity for 1 million tests per week by end of March.”..

Becton Dickinson rival Roche, which already received an emergency approval for the first U.S. approved test for Coronavirus strain COVID-19, said it began shipping an initial 400,000 test kids Friday (which is today).



Roche also shipped out 400,000 test kits four days ago.

https://diagnostics.roche.com/us/en...ng-under-fda-emergency-use-authorization.html

I used to work for a competitor of Roche and Abbott making similar products - the legal and regulatory requirements for bringing a new product to market were enormous. If I were in Abbott's shoes, I'd want to make sure I was well insulated from the inevitable deluge of lawsuits that will come with this.
 

ok doser

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Great news!


more great news:


What China’s coronavirus response can teach the rest of the world

As the new coronavirus marches around the globe, countries with escalating outbreaks are eager to learn whether China’s extreme lockdowns were responsible for bringing the crisis there under control. Other nations are now following China’s lead and limiting movement within their borders, while dozens of countries have restricted international visitors.
In mid-January, Chinese authorities introduced unprecedented measures to contain the virus, stopping movement in and out of Wuhan, the centre of the epidemic, and 15 other cities in Hubei province — home to more than 60 million people. Flights and trains were suspended, and roads were blocked.
Soon after, people in many Chinese cities were told to stay at home and venture out only to get food or medical help. Some 760 million people, roughly half the country’s population, were confined to their homes, according to The New York Times.
It’s now two months since the lockdowns began — some of which are still in place — and the number of new cases there is around a couple of dozen per day, down from thousands per day at the peak. “These extreme limitations on population movement have been quite successful,” says Michael Osterholm, an infectious-disease scientist at the University of Minnesota in Minneapolis.


https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-020-00741-x




Cuomo just ordered a stay at home quarantine for the state - NYC is getting hit hard
 

chair

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Ok, it's math time.

It's hard to believe because it's utter horse biskets. As of today at 4:65 PST there have been 1,195 confirmed cases in California according to the Los Angeles times. Newson made his statement yesterday that in 8 weeks (56 days) 56% of Californians can be infected. That 56% is 22,153,600 people. To go from 1,195 cases to over 22 million in 55 days would require 402,771 new infections EVERY SINGE DAY for 55 straight days.

(22,153,600-1,195) / 55 = 402,771

So did over 400,000 Californians get infected today? Every day that over 400,000 people do not get infected would mean that the there would have to be even more infections in the subsequent days to reach over 22 million in 55 days.

This isn't a linear process. It's like compound interest. In order to go from 1,195 to 22,153,600 in 56 days you need a "daily interest rate" of about 20%, i.e. each infected person infect 0.2 more people each day. It looks benign at first- only a few hundred or thousands of new infections each day. The last 10,000,000 infections take place in the last 5 days. This is the critical point that people don't catch. Watch this video if you don't follow this (I think it's been posted here before).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fgBla7RepXU

Please don't finally understand the hard way.
 

jgarden

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I daresay most LPN's in the US are closer to a doctor than those listed in many countries on the list. Our systems and practices exceed most countries.

With all due respect, training doesn't compensate for a lack of COVIR-19 tests, ventilators, hospital beds and protective equipment to ensure that hospital staff isn't being infected!

Having the best healthcare system in the world is academic if its being overwhelmed by a tidal-wave of patients or there is no staff available to care for your needs!

A private healthcare system doesn't maintain the medical infrastructure required to deal with a pandemic and its becoming painfully obvious that the Trump Administration, in its infinite wisdom, didn't take the threat seriously!
 
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chair

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With all due respect, training doesn't compensate for a lack of COVIR-19 tests, ventilators, hospital beds and protective equipment to ensure that hospital staff isn't being infected!

Having the best healthcare system in the world is academic if it being overwhelmed by a tidal-wave of patients or there is no staff available to care for your needs!

This is another critical point. It's one of the reasons Italy has so many deaths.

Another point is that our information is way out of date. It take a week or more for symptoms to show up. So most infected people just aren't aware that they are infected- they'll know in a week or two. So you think "only 10,000 sick in the whole country"- but it's only 10,000 that you know about. You'll know about the next 10,000 only in a week and a half- and by then there will be 70,000.
 

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Italy
47,021 confirmed
4,032 deaths
11.6 % mortality
4.01 doctors per 1000
3.18 hospital beds per 1000

USA
14,354 confirmed
217 deaths
1.51% mortality
2.59 doctors per 1000
2.78 hospital beds per 1000 (South Korea 12.27)

Italy's high mortality rate is not a reflection of that nation's healthcare system, it is an indicator of what happens when the nation's government is slow to react and allows its medical infrastructure to be overwhelmed!

If the debacle concerning the lack of COVIR-19 testing kits is an indicator of the federal government's readiness to cope with this pandemic, history will be less than kind to this President and his Administration's lack of preparation!

Given that Italy has a greater number of doctors and hospital beds per capita, the America healthcare system has an even greater likelihood of being overwhelmed by the demand!

Despite the fact that America currently spends 3X per capita on healthcare expenditures when compared to taly, the real question is where has that money gone given that none of it has translated into expanding the number of doctors and hospital beds required to cope with a national emergency

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Trump Gurl

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is American's concern, not yours you Canadian freak

Chinese Ambassador Applauds Hillary Clinton For Spreading Communist Propaganda
https://dailycaller.com/2020/03/21/chinese-ambassador-hillary-clinton-communist-propaganda/

China’s ambassador to South Africa on Friday cheered former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton for advancing the Chinese Communist Party’s official line about the coronavirus not being a “Chinese virus.”

“Justice always speak loudly,” Tian Xuejun tweeted.

The state-owned propaganda outlet China News noted how Clinton had been quick to criticize Trump calling COVID-19 the “Chinese virus” and saying his rhetoric was “racist.”



you Canadian freak

:rotfl:
 

ok doser

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This is another critical point. It's one of the reasons Italy has so many deaths.

Another point is that our information is way out of date. It take a week or more for symptoms to show up. So most infected people just aren't aware that they are infected- they'll know in a week or two. So you think "only 10,000 sick in the whole country"- but it's only 10,000 that you know about. You'll know about the next 10,000 only in a week and a half- and by then there will be 70,000.

I believe you're Israeli?

How is life there?
 

ok doser

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A private healthcare system doesn't maintain the medical infrastructure required to deal with a pandemic ...


Italy's health care system isn't private

neither is China's

nor Iran, Spain, Germany, France, South Korea, United Kingdom, Japan ....
 

The Berean

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This pandemic has become personal. Tragically, a cousin of mine passed away form COVID-19 last night. My family is completey shocked by his death. He's the first death from this virus in my hometown. I spent the day traveling to my hometown taking supplies to his brother who took him to the hospital. He and his wife have.quarantineed themselves.
 
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