Polls Spell Doom For Democrat Party and Impeachment

Jerry Shugart

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In the latest Politico/Morning Consult poll, released on November 19, Independents opposed impeachment and removal from office 46% to 39%, a number close to the rolling averages of the last few weeks. It is notable that the poll was fielded after the first public impeachment hearings.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2019...ate-key-voters

The latest national poll from Emerson College finds 45 percent oppose impeaching President Trump, against 43 percent who support it. That’s a 6-point swing in support from October, when 48 percent of voters supported impeachment and only 44 percent opposed.

More importantly, the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment than support it, a significant change from Emerson's polling in October. The new poll found 49 percent oppose impeachment compared to 34 percent who support it. In October, 48 percent of independents polled supported impeachment, against 39 percent who opposed.

Since October, Emerson has found Trump’s job approval rating jump by 5 points, from 43 percent to 48 percent.

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaig...g-independents

This is only going to get worse for the Dems if they actually vote to impeach in the house because the trail will go to the Senate, where the Republicans are in charge. And they will not allow heresy evidence, meaning the witnesses which the Dems used to try to make a case against Trump will nit be allowed to testify.

Instead, the nation will finally hear the testimony of the so-called whistleblower and that testimony will prove a conspiracy between him and Schiff. Also, Hunter Biden will be called to testify and that will be a disaster for the Dems. If the Dems were smart (and of course they are not) they will drop their efforts to impeach Trump.

In the meantime, the facts concerning the lawlessness of the Obama Justice Department and CIA will be made known to the public concerning the FISA warrant application and the beginning of the Russia investigation which resulted in the Obama Administration spying on the Trump campaign.

Obama knew exactly what was happening because the so-called investigation into Trump colluding with Russia was a "counter-intelligence" investigation and the President has to be informed of such investigations. That means that Obama will be implicated in the effort to illegally spy on the Trump campaign:

"President's Foreign Intelligence Advisory Board (PFIAB) : The PFIAB is an entity within the Executive Office of the President formed "to assess the quality, quantity, and adequacy" of intelligence collection, analysis, counterintelligence, and other activities of the Intelligence Community. The PFIAB reports directly to the President, and provides recommendations for actions to improve and enhance the performance of intelligence efforts. It also examines issues raised by the President or the Director of Central Intelligence and can make recommendations directly to the DCI. Membership of the PFIAB consists of not more that 16 persons appointed by the President."
 

The Barbarian

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You were hit with fake news, Jerry. In the Morning Consult poll, 38 percent independents want Trump removed from office now, and 39 percent don't want him removed now.
https://d25d2506sfb94s.cloudfront.net/cumulus_uploads/document/u9tu99dui5/econTabReport.pdf (p.30)

That's the poll that has 47% of Americans wanting Trump removed from office now, and 39% who don't want him removed now. The same poll has 50% of moderates wanting him impeached now, and 32% who don't think he should be impeached. (p. 29)

This is critical, because when Bill Clinton was impeached, a majority of Americans opposed it. And the republicans got hit hard in the next elections. This time, opinions are favoring impeachment, something moderate republicans in swing states realize could cost them their seats in 2020.
 

Jerry Shugart

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You were hit with fake news, Jerry. In the Morning Consult poll, 38 percent independents want Trump removed from office now, and 39 percent don't want him removed now.

The trend is what needs to be considered and since the impeachment inquiry began its support has gone down! And if it makes it to the Senate the whole world will know the dishonesty of the whole affair:

The latest national poll from Emerson College finds 45 percent oppose impeaching President Trump, against 43 percent who support it. That’s a 6-point swing in support from October, when 48 percent of voters supported impeachment and only 44 percent opposed.
 

The Barbarian

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Barbarian observes:
You were hit with fake news, Jerry. In the Morning Consult poll, 38 percent independents want Trump removed from office now, and 39 percent don't want him removed now.

The trend is what needs to be considered

Honesty is what needs to be observed. Your story is false. I imagine someone else lied to you,and you repeated it, because you wanted to believe it. What's more important is this from the poll:

The Real Clear Politics sum of polls on impeachment:
Impeach Trump 47.8% Don't impeach Trump 45.8 %
The most recent poll (11/17-11/19)
Impeach Trump 49% Don't impeach Trump 42%
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...ment_and_removal_of_president_trump-6957.html
 

Jerry Shugart

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Barbarian observes:
You were hit with fake news, Jerry. In the Morning Consult poll, 38 percent independents want Trump removed from office now, and 39 percent don't want him removed now.

The latest national poll from Emerson College finds 45 percent oppose impeaching President Trump, against 43 percent who support it. That’s a 6-point swing in support from October, when 48 percent of voters supported impeachment and only 44 percent opposed.

More importantly, the poll shows more independents now oppose impeachment than support it, a significant change from Emerson's polling in October. The new poll found 49 percent oppose impeachment compared to 34 percent who support it.

What the Dems are really worried about are the swing states and here is what we read about one of them:

"Support for the impeachment of President Donald Trump is slipping among Wisconsin voters, according to the latest Marquette University Law School poll released Wednesday.

The poll, conducted from Nov. 13 to 17, included 801 Wisconsin voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percent.

The poll found that 40 percent of voters believe Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 53 percent oppose impeachment and removal. In Marquette's October survey, 44 percent supported impeachment, while 51 percent were opposed."

The longer this drags on the more public opinion will oppose impeachment. As a result the Republicans will win the Presidency and both houses of Congress. Here are the polls on the Presidental race in Wisconsin:

In Marquette's latest survey, Biden trailed Trump 44 percent to 47 percent, Sanders trailed 45 percent to 48 percent, Warren trailed 43 percent to 48 percent and Buttigieg trailed 39 percent to 47 percent. Biden's total has dipped seven points since Marquette's August poll.

https://www.wpr.org/marquette-poll-wisconsin-voters-support-impeachment-declining

After the Senate finishes their investigation of Hunter Biden the chance of Joe defeating Trump is zero.And Warren and Sanders have no chance. That leaves the Dems with a candidate whose only experience is being a mayor--Mayor Pete!

You better find a new candidate in a hurry!
 

The Barbarian

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And he's back at it, again...

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Trump administration is withholding more than $100 million in U.S. military assistance to Lebanon that has been approved by Congress and is favored by his national security team, an assertion of executive control of foreign aid that is similar to the delay in support for Ukraine at the center of the impeachment inquiry.
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo on Friday congratulated Lebanon as the country marked its independence day but made no mention of the hold-up in aid that State Department and Pentagon officials have complained about for weeks.
It came up in impeachment testimony by David Hale, the No. 3 official in the State Department, according to the transcript of the closed-door hearing released this week. He described growing consternation among diplomats as the administration would neither release the aid nor provide an explanation for the hold.
“People started asking: What's the problem?” Hale told the impeachment investigators.
The White House and the Office of Management and Budget have declined to comment on the matter.
The $105 million in Foreign Military Funding for the Lebanese Armed Forces has languished for months, awaiting approval from the Office of Management and Budget despite congressional approval, an early September notification to lawmakers that it would be spent and overwhelming support for it from the Pentagon, State Department and National Security Council.
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/a...over-lebanon-aid-hold-up-as-impeachment-looms

Maybe it would help if Lebanon assured him that Hunter Biden didn't visit there.
 

The Barbarian

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In Marquette's latest survey, Biden trailed Trump 44 percent to 47 percent, Sanders trailed 45 percent to 48 percent, Warren trailed 43 percent to 48 percent and Buttigieg trailed 39 percent to 47 percent. Biden's total has dipped seven points since Marquette's August poll.

Well, let's see what the polls are saying. Real Clear Politics' average of Biden/Trump matchups...

Biden currently up by 9.6 points
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html

Warren up by 6.8 points:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...us/general_election_trump_vs_warren-6251.html

Sanders up by 10.4 points:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/e...s/general_election_trump_vs_sanders-5565.html

But remember, Clinton won the popular vote by two points and lost the election anyway. The big issue is how Trump is doing in swing states...

The findings suggest that public opinion has stabilized since shifting quickly against the president in late September, and it leaves American politics where it has been for some time: deadlocked, with neither side likely to face severe political costs for its position on the president.

Democrats have long feared that impeachment would alienate moderate voters. But in the pivotal states of Pennsylvania, Florida, Michigan, Wisconsin, North Carolina and Arizona, a majority of voters support the inquiry. Self-described independents back the inquiry, 51 percent to 43 percent.

Support for the impeachment inquiry is largely consistent with recent national surveys, which show registered voters backing the inquiry by an average of nine points over the last three weeks, or a margin four points higher than the one in the Times/Siena poll.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/21/upshot/polls-impeachment-battlegrounds-Trump.html
 

Jerry Shugart

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51% of Americans think Trump should be impeached

Do you honestly not think that the Presidental election in 2020 will be determined by the swing states? What the Dems are really worried about are the swing states and here is what we read about one of them:

"Support for the impeachment of President Donald Trump is slipping among Wisconsin voters, according to the latest Marquette University Law School poll released Wednesday.

The poll, conducted from Nov. 13 to 17, included 801 Wisconsin voters and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.1 percent.

The poll found that 40 percent of voters believe Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 53 percent oppose impeachment and removal. In Marquette's October survey, 44 percent supported impeachment, while 51 percent were opposed."

The Democrats can't seem to understand that the popular vote is not the deciding factor in the Presidental election! And national polls are worthless as far as predicting who will win.

The Democrats are a little dense when it comes to understanding the Electoral College.
 

The Barbarian

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Do you honestly not think that the Presidental election in 2020 will be determined by the swing states?

That's the usual. The republicans are really worried about are the swing states and here is what we read about one of them:

Wisconsin: He's now 11 points underwater
Iowa: 12 points underwater
Michigan 13 points underwater
Ohio 6 points underwater
Pennsylvania 9 points underwater
Virginia 7 points underwater
Florida 2 points underwater
https://morningconsult.com/tracking-trump-2/

He's got to win those states, or the electoral college will do him in. He needs to do something fast.


The poll found that 40 percent of voters believe Trump should be impeached and removed from office, while 53 percent oppose impeachment and removal. In Marquette's October survey, 44 percent supported impeachment, while 51 percent were opposed."


If you celebrate when nearly half of of the voters in a state think your guy needs to be impeached and removed from office, that's kind of a revelation in itself, isn't it?

There's another worrisome thing going on... When Kentucky’s Republican governor lost his bid for reelection two weeks ago despite President Trump’s active endorsement, the president and his allies brushed it off by declaring that Trump had nearly dragged an unpopular incumbent across the finish line.
On Sunday, a day after another Trump-backed GOP gubernatorial candidate fell in Louisiana, the president and his surrogates barely mounted a defense.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...a-bd9d-c628fd48b3a0_story.html?outputType=amp

It's not just two more warnings of what's to come in 2020; next year is redistricting, and the republican party can now only hope to gain power by Gerrymandering. And with democrats in the governor's offices, that's now unlikely in several key states.
 

Jerry Shugart

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He's got to win those states, or the electoral college will do him in. He needs to do something fast.

It will be the Senate who will expose the Obama adminstration and the Democrats as a Political Party that cannot be trusted. The public is not stupid and when the illegal activity of Obama's Justice Department and CIA is made public then only die-hard Dems will ever trust the Democrat party again.

Can you spell

F-I-S-A

December 11 will be the day when Obama's corruption will be exposed for the whole world to see.
 

Gary K

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Hey Jerry,

Here is some more bad news for the socialist Dems.

It turns out that support for Trump has risen 14% year over year among likely Black voters. It's now up to a little more than 1/3 of likely black voters.

Recent polling shows it may be game over for Democrats as the average number of black registered voters who support President Donald Trump has increased.

A Rasmussen poll released last week showed that 34 percent of black likely voters approve of Trump’s presidency, an increase from last year when it was in the 20s and a finding that lines up with an Emerson poll which showed 34.5 percent approval as well as a drop in support for impeachment.

Black author and Trump supporter Deneen Borelli noted the poll results in a tweet calling it “Democrats worst nightmare” and adding the hashtag #Boom.

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For the rest of this very interesting article click here.
 

Jerry Shugart

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Hey Jerry,

Here is some more bad news for the socialist Dems.

It turns out that support for Trump has risen 14% year over year among likely Black voters. It's now up to a little more than 1/3 of likely black voters.

Thanks, ffreeloader.

Crooked Hillary's support from the black community slipped from the support they gave Obama and that was a big reason why she lost in 2016.

And if the polls you cited are right then the Democrats will have no chance at all to beat Trump in 2020.
 

Gary K

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Thanks, ffreeloader.

Crooked Hillary's support from the black community slipped from the support they gave Obama and that was a big reason why she lost in 2016.

And if the polls you cited are right then the Democrats will have no chance at all to beat Trump in 2020.

Look at the likely Independent voter percentages too listed in the Other column alongside the GOP and Dem percentages. Then look at the Other column in the racial columns. Trump's total approval rating is at 47% with the rest of the minorities. He's getting voter percentages from minorities far, far above what any other Republican candidate has ever gotten. It just goes to show how few people believe the mockingbird media any more.
 
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