Anti-Creationist AronRa: Round Two

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Anti-Creationist AronRa: Round Two

This is the show from Friday November 18th, 2011.

SUMMARY:

* Bob Enyart's Round Two Interviews with AronRa: On the Foundational Falsehood videos, specifically #1 and #3, Bob begins a new round of programs with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, AronRa.




* Hollywood Finally Gets Scopes Trial Right: Enjoy this feature film about the Scopes Monkey Trial starring Brian Dennehy (Rambo), Fred Thompson (Law & Order), Colm Meany (Star Trek), Ashley Johnson (The Help), Nathan West and Khori Faison. This great movie Alleged, available at Walmarts nationwide, is accurate to the history and trial transcript of the Scopes Monkey Trial unlike Hollywood's previous Inherit the Wind attempt. Order your copy today. Alleged is available from Amazon or pick it up from your local Walmart or order it online at Walmart DVD or Walmart Blu-ray. Enjoy!

Today's Resource: If you enjoy the science you hear about on our fast-paced RSF radio shows, you'll really love the books, audio, and DVD science materials in our online store's Science Department! And this DVD, Living Fossils, by Dr. Carl Werner, is absolutely stunning! You owe it to yourself, and your loved ones, to watch this DVD! Whether a shark, leaf, or crab, living fossils are a challenge for evolutionary theorists and create a fascinating debate among scholars. Do they indicate a younger earth than thought, placing the millions of years timeline of evolution in question? Or do they represent a deep mystery?
 
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I wonder if any of the atheists here know of creationist organisations who say evolution requires one to be an atheist. :chuckle:
 
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Who is Bob Enyart ?

I bin kept IGORANT. :chuckle:

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Let's ask God if He is Real. He says YES, I AM . :thumb:

I EXIST, I AM , that is one of the Truths that Satan wants

people to Doubt.:devil:

A Star fuses Hydrogen into Helium which fuses into Silicaon, Carbon, and finally Iron

and it cools down to become a Planet which takes Billions of years.

After Billions of years , God has alot of Planets to Terraform and He

needs your help. :thumb:
 
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=Jefferson;2854134]Anti-Creationist AronRa: Round Two

This is the show from Friday November 18th, 2011.

SUMMARY:

* Bob Enyart's Round Two Interviews with AronRa: On the Foundational Falsehood videos, specifically #1 and #3, Bob begins a new round of programs with one of the web's leading anti-creationists, AronRa.




* Hollywood Finally Gets Scopes Trial Right: Enjoy this feature film about the Scopes Monkey Trial starring Brian Dennehy (Rambo), Fred Thompson (Law & Order), Colm Meany (Star Trek), Ashley Johnson (The Help), Nathan West and Khori Faison. This great movie Alleged, available at Walmarts nationwide, is accurate to the history and trial transcript of the Scopes Monkey Trial unlike Hollywood's previous Inherit the Wind attempt. Order your copy today. Alleged is available from Amazon or pick it up from your local Walmart or order it online at Walmart DVD or Walmart Blu-ray. Enjoy!

Today's Resource: If you enjoy the science you hear about on our fast-paced RSF radio shows, you'll really love the books, audio, and DVD science materials in our online store's Science Department! And this DVD, Living Fossils, by Dr. Carl Werner, is absolutely stunning! You owe it to yourself, and your loved ones, to watch this DVD! Whether a shark, leaf, or crab, living fossils are a challenge for evolutionary theorists and create a fascinating debate among scholars. Do they indicate a younger earth than thought, placing the millions of years timeline of evolution in question? Or do they represent a deep mystery?
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Hello all,

I just finished listening to Bob's Friday show (Nov. 18). Yesterday I was invited to the home of a Christian friend. One of his guests was a Ph.D. (physicist). He and I talked. Out of curiosity, I asked him if he were a Christian. He answered, "of course!" But as our conversation progressed, I thought I was talking to AaronRa. Nothing was true, not even that he existed. He, like AaronRa, argued that we would basically have to know everything to know anything. And he argued that what was true for me was not necessarily true for him. My pointing out to him that truth can't be relative or subjective went over his head.

And then he said something that astonished me. He posited that God could even change what was true. But then I asked him if the truth was changed, would it still be true? And I pointed out that Jesus said, "I am the Truth..." and asked if Jesus changed what was true, He would be denying Himself? Our host, who is a Christian like myself, was becoming embarrassed by this very educated man's answers. So I politely ended the conversation.

Why do atheists shy away from anything absolute? Because in their worldview, there can be no absolutes. For a matter to be absolutely morally wrong or right, an Authority above man has to exist. So atheist have given up this moral high ground and are forced to argue that there is no absolute right or wrong. But then they come on ToL and post how immoral God is for killing the Ites or condoning slavery, or.... But when they do this, they are being illogical, arbitrary, and inconsistent within their worldview. They use God's moral prescriptions to condemn a God they claim does not exist. If they stay within their atheist worldview, they have no moral foundation to condemn any behavior. They must borrow from the Christian worldview to argue against the Christian worldview.

Now, as AaronRa shows on Bob's show, they must shy away from truth. "There is no Truth." But is that true? Pilate, about 2,000 years ago, said to Jesus, "What is truth" (John 18:38). Pilate was totally unaware that The Truth was standing before him. So why does truth affect atheist as the Cross affects Dracula? I contend that when atheists admit that anything is absolute, they are getting dangerously close to God. So we hear phrases like: "Science can't prove that anything is true." "What's true for you is not true for me." "There is no truth." "Truth is relative." But all relativistic arguments defeat themselves.

A few Bible truths:

"In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD [JESUS] WAS GOD" (John 1:1).

"I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life..." (John 14:6).

"... the Spirit of Truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him; but you know Him, for He dwells with you and will be in you" (John 14:17; and see John 15:26).

"... everyone who is of the truth hears My voice" (John 18:37).

God's word is truth (John 17:17).

Atheists instinctively know that to admit any absolutes, they must admit a God exists.

Atheists are now moving in the direction of arguing that the laws of logic are not absoute but conventional (what's agreed upon by society). In "The Great Debate" between Christian Dr. Bahnsen and atheist Dr. Stein, Dr. Stein argued that the laws of logic were not absolute but conventional, or "What's logical for you is not logical for me." Sound familiar? But Dr. Bahnsen pointed out to Dr. Stein that if laws of logic were relative, then he could claim that his argument was logical and Dr. Stein's arguments were logical and both coud not be logical or illogical so they may as well go home and watch TV.

Why are atheists moving in this direction? Because apart from God, they can't justify logic and reason apart from logic and reason (circular). So if laws of logic are absolute, then they must look for a basis for logic and reason apart from logic and reason. Again, they are getting dangerously close to a Creator.

For any atheist to argue against what I have posted here, they must use laws of logic and rational (most likely irrational) thought. But logic and reason are not physical. So what they are doing is using the immaterial laws of logic and reason to argue that nothing but the physical exists. This can be likened to arguing against the existence of gravity whle using gravity to stand on the ground and make an argument. Atheist are illogical, arbitrary, and inconsistent.

Tom
 
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