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  • Iamme
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    Dee Dee--Freaks right when he says this way back in the first few pages, I have heard of others also who have named their deceased children

    [You said: I am not a woman with no children, I am a woman with two deceased children who I do firmly believe are waiting for me with Christ.
    You are correct. You do have two children whom are with the Lord Jesus. Those beautiful babies love you, Dee Dee. For they are present in perfect love. They know of nothing else.
    You continue: They have no gravestone or memory. They have no names.
    Dee Dee, ever thought of naming your beautiful children? Or holding a funeral on their behalf for some closure?]

    Maybe pray and ask your Lord what their names are, I am sure he will tell you

    Myself, Thursday I over heard one of my workmates talking of his ex wifes new pregnancy, he said she wanted her alimony so she could terminate. He gave it to her next morning and it went ahead, whole thing happened so quickly I did not even get a chance to talk with them. All I can think is can't they understand what it is that we do when we terminate a child by abortion, can't they understand that we are made in the image of God, so fearfully and marvelously made. How awesome a thing (Psalm 139)
    I will not give up on them, somehow I want to reach out to them with the love of the Father who still loves them. Somehow.

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  • Calvinist
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    Originally posted by JCAtheist


    Calvinist.. you once 'tested' me... and you speak about being duplicitous.. what kind of person are you? How two faced can you get..

    JCAtheist
    The test was about your sincerity, of that I have no doubts. Your Christianity, I have doubts.

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  • JCAtheist
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    Originally posted by Calvinist
    My point exactly DDW. What do you say JCAtheist? Jesus (actually exists) is Divine or not?
    Calvinist.. you once 'tested' me... and you speak about being duplicitous.. what kind of person are you? How two faced can you get..

    Now I know why you had to say what you said in the other thread.. you where a rude person there, and you aren't much better now it seems.

    Sorry DeeDee.. I dislike this persons lack of honor and integrity, and had to address it.. if no one responds to me here, I will have no need to return. If that person feels they need to continue their ignorant thoughts, please feel free to take it to PM, and not bother the community with such un-christian antics.

    Love and Peace

    JCAtheist

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  • Brother Vinny
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    Originally posted by Calvinist
    That's it. I'm a making a thread on this guy.
    I wait eagerly.

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    I would be interested in seeing it. He seems to talk quite incoherently out of both sides of his mouth.

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  • Calvinist
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    That's it. I'm a making a thread on this guy.

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  • JCAtheist
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    Originally posted by Dee Dee Warren
    With all due respect can we move this discussion elsewhere?? I would like to keep this thread on target. If JC unreservedly accepts the Deity of Christ then he would qualify to post here despite all his other incoherence. If he does not, he is not a Christian and should not be posting here.
    Yes DeeDee, I do. Besides the point of my site, and some of the things it says - which, if asked about, I am willing to explain..

    But anyway, In the sense that I believe the divinity of Christ, his purpose and resurrection, and the two Commandments given to us by Him, I am a Christian.

    I will remove myself from this thread now. I had no intention of upsetting you, or trying to. I was merely expressing my opinion. Unfortunately, you appeared to have taken what I was saying out of context, and instead of maybe seeing the comapssion in my words as it was meant, took that compassion and placed it in something I wasn't expressing, or felt needed to be expressed again. I apologise if that offended you.

    I wish you all the best, and hope you will allow others the chance you have been given.. to come to God.

    In Love and Peace

    JCAtheist

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  • Calvinist
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    My point exactly DDW. What do you say JCAtheist? Jesus (actually exists) is Divine or not?

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    With all due respect can we move this discussion elsewhere?? I would like to keep this thread on target. If JC unreservedly accepts the Deity of Christ then he would qualify to post here despite all his other incoherence. If he does not, he is not a Christian and should not be posting here.

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  • Calvinist
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    JCAtheist on the Bible:
    "Now we all know that the Bible is supposedly divinely inspired. Don't we? I thought we did. However, it seems that if this was the word of God as he intended it to be, one would think that there wouldn't be so many flaws."

    The Bible is full of flaws.


    JCAtheist on Jesus' existence:
    "In fact, there is no real proof that Jesus (or Joshua if you want to be correct - Jesus is the Greek translation) ever really existed outside of the Bible. Although, the debate has apparently gone on a while. Somehow I don't see it ending anytime soon."

    "Let's move on though, and assume that there was this person, and that his teachings sparked off a small revolution in the minds of those around at the time..."

    Okay, JC just "moves on" and assumes he existed... nice theology for a "Christian."

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  • JCAtheist
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    Originally posted by Calvinist


    All I did was read your web page. I will give you that you are Disciple of Christ in the sense that you consider yourself to be a disciple of Jesus, the man. But this thread means to invite people who are Christians in the sense that most Christian Churches understand that word. You are disguising yourself and being duplicitous.
    And you are just plain incorrect. There are many denominations and individual Churches that agree with what I have said, and there are people who have read the whole site, and understand what I have said there.. the fact that you don't doesn't make you right.

    I have stated here before what my beliefs are.. for you to come and judge differently, without ever asking me, and jumping to conclusions, shows a lack of understanding on your part what this is all about.

    However, I'm sure you enjoy attacking peoples characters.. that too is a fruit of YOUR Church I suppose.

    Love and Peace

    JCAtheist
    Last edited by JCAtheist; December 2nd, 2002, 08:41 AM.

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  • JCAtheist
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    Yes Paul, had you have read the WHOLE site, you would find that I only mean that when talking about most of MANS interpretation of the bible and it's authority.. I don't care for the arguments about Trinitarinism, or Dualities etc.. Mans arguments.. and frankly, not needed for Salvation.. but Christians argue with Christians about it, and defame and called each other unsaved..

    THAT is the Christianity I mention and talk about on my site..

    And yes, as I say, had you read it all, you might understand me and that a little better.

    Sorry if I 'sound' upset.. 2d posts tend to remove 'feeling'.. I'm not angry or upset with you for your first conclusions.. but I do want you to know that yes, you didn't have me down right.

    As for the court of law thing.. isn't that what this is like? Aren't I being judged now because of my comments? Aren't there more than one of you sitting there condemning me?

    In my eyes, such a place of this is as bad, if not worse than court of law.. at least there I can expect certain rules to be applied, and fair play (well.. lets not get into that here).. here it is a courtroom without the ability to say "I object", because there is nothing to uphold it.. and even using scripture in my defense is ignored.

    But to me, this is just as much a court, yes.

    Love and Peace

    JCAtheist

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  • Calvinist
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    Originally posted by JCAtheist
    Calvinist.. would you care to tell me what it is I beleive please? Do lay it out so I know... and where you get the idea that I am not Christian.

    JCAtheist
    All I did was read your web page. I will give you that you are Disciple of Christ in the sense that you consider yourself to be a disciple of Jesus, the man. But this thread means to invite people who are Christians in the sense that most Christian Churches understand that word. You are disguising yourself and being duplicitous.

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  • Brother Vinny
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    Originally posted by JCAtheist


    Now I'm put down to scripture holding no water with me... oh great argument..

    What about the scripture *I* quoted? That holds no water either?

    *checks the calendar* Oh I forgot it was 'bear false witness against JCA day' today.

    Should you be killed for that sin?

    JCAtheist
    Nope. "Bearing false witness" applies directly to one's behavior in a court of law.

    And if Scripture does in fact hold water with you, my mistake. I saw one portion of your site that drew a false dichotomy between following "Joshua" (Jesus) or the Bible. I thought by that you meant you didn't hold the Bible as any sort of authority. Again, my mistake if I was wtrong.

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  • JCAtheist
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    Originally posted by Paul DeYonghe


    Amen!

    But since arguments from Scripture hold no water with JCAtheist, we have to use the only authority he recognizes: raw data.

    This naturally means that JCA's epistemology is going to be weak. As an ex-girlfriend wisely pointed out to me, "Statistics never lie, but statisticians often do." In other words, data can often be manipulated to support whatever worldview one holds to.
    Now I'm put down to scripture holding no water with me... oh great argument..

    What about the scripture *I* quoted? That holds no water either?

    *checks the calendar* Oh I forgot it was 'bear false witness against JCA day' today.

    Should you be killed for that sin?

    JCAtheist

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