ECT Why preterism can never be taken seriously by Bible believers

Grosnick Marowbe

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Why TeT gets so much attention I'll never understand? TeT is nothing but a "Religious provocateur." He's a complete and utter heretic and false believer. Obviously, he doesn't accept the "True Gospel. (Paul's Gospel.)
 

john w

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Correct.

The Israelites were in physical bondage in Egypt. Moses led them out of physical bondage, through physical water, and then into a physical promised land.

We were under the spiritual bondage of sin. Christ Jesus led us out of the spiritual bondage of sin, through a baptism by the Spirit, unto a spiritual promised land.

In both events, there was a 40 year wait before entering the promised lands.

"and, of course, meant land, in the Joshua passage, but no more."-Craigie


1.There you go, folks, this mystic/Buddhist can "prove" anything he wants to, with this sleight of hand.

2. Nope. Land, means land, in the Joshua passages, and following verses, and no amount of your daddy, the devil, pushing you to mystify the book, as he did/does, will work, little devil boy.
 

john w

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(Heb 2:18) Because he himself suffered when he was tempted, he is able to help those who are being tempted.

Too bad you're a Darby follower, and have to believe that Hebrews isn't written to you.

That's his best whimper, as usual, when Danoh/others, pick him apart-Darby.
 

john w

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Not at the same time.

Christ Jesus is the Promised Land. Those "in Christ" receive faith rest.

There is no literal application, it's 100% spiritual.


Yes, at the same time. Don't you believe the bible, sweetie? You're in denial.

"Christ Jesus is the Promised Land."-you


Made up. "Land," means "land."


"Those "in Christ" receive faith rest."-Craigie


Agreed. That does not mean "land," does not mean "land."

"There is no literal application, it's 100% spiritual."-Craigie

Nope. It is literal. "Land," means "land."

Craigie asserts, on record, that the passage in Joshua is "spiritual," only.
 

tetelestai

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You mean the same Josephus who writes of Jerusalem having believed the Messiah would come and help them against Rome?

Josephus was a Christ rejecting Jew.

Christ rejecting Jews have numerous times throughout history believed God was going to send them their Messiah to help them defeat their enemies.

However, Josephus was also a historian, and his eyewitness account of what took place up to 70AD is valuable to those of us who believe the words of Christ Jesus. The writings of Josephus confirm the many prophecies given by Christ Jesus.

In other words - contrary to your assertion that the scoffers Jude is talking about was Jerusalem around that time.

There were scoffers in Jerusalem and there were Roman scoffers.

You have to remember, Jude was writing to Christians, not unbelieving Jews.

Not to mention; it seems Josephus had had a better understanding of this then those few within ECF and Russell had misread into that.

Since Josephus was an eyewitness, and the ECF's and Russell were not, I would venture to say that Josephus had a much better understanding.
By the way, you well know that your third poster boy: Russell (the lost Josephus being Preterism's #1, and the Jesuit Alcazar #2), used the same terminology as Bullinger when describing the book of Acts.

Ok, what is your point?

Bullinger wasn't 100% wrong

You well know that Russell had often referred to that period as "the Jewish Dispensation."

Contrary to what you guys think, I have never read any book by Russell.
Does not make Russell a Bullingerite.

Bullinger was the grandaddy of Hyper-Disepnsationalism.

We both know your ears were long stopped up.

Ah....the typical Darby follower.....anyone who doesn't subscribe to the false teachings of John Nelson Darby is blind, stupid, a fool, lost, and of course "their ears were long stopped up".
 

john w

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It used to be, before Christ Jesus.

Now, Christ Jesus is our Promised Land, He is our rest.

Made up. No scripture changes the meaning of "land." Only your mysticism, Buddhism, of Preterism, does that, to make that "invention" fly.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Why would God destroy the old earth and create a new Jerusalem to come down, then, turn around and destroy the new Jerusalem and the new earth? Can you back your assumption with Scripture?
 

tetelestai

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Why TeT gets so much attention I'll never understand?

Deep down, Darby followers know they subscribe to a false teaching.

However, they're too afraid to admit it, because they are too scared of what their fellow Darby followers will think of them.

So, they try real hard to prove me wrong so they don't have to go through with it.

However, Dispensationalism cannot stand the test of scripture.

Nang and myself used to be Dispensationalists. So, we know how you guys have been brainwashed.
 

Nang

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I believe that when the "New Jerusalem" comes down, it wll be here on the "new" earth, forever.

Yes.

This is the promised Kingdom of Jesus Christ, where all the Jewish and Gentile saints, gathered out of all the nations, will dwell in His presence, without end.

Any and all earthly kingdoms will be destroyed by fire. So the new city of Jerusalem (Rev. 21:1-7) cannot abide on this old land, which is going to pass away. It is a spiritual, heavenly city that describes how all the saints will abide in Christ's glory and light, and reign with Him forever.
 

steko

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Already happened steko.

Also, Christ Jesus was King of kings, and Lord of lords before it happened.

Who was the beast and who were the kings of the earth with their armies that fought a war against Christ and His armies of heaven in 70 AD.

Rev 19:19 And I saw the beast, and the kings of the earth, and their armies, gathered together to make war against him that sat on the horse, and against his army.
 

tetelestai

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Used to be?????

Yes, used to be.

That dirt in the Middle East is still there!

And that's all it is is dirt. It's no different than the dirt in Texas or anywhere else (except maybe a little more sandy).

Christ Jesus is the Promised Land. In Him is where you find rest. You won't find rest in dirt.

It has not stopped being the same land.

It's irrelevant in the New Covenant.

Do you make pilgrimages to that dirt? Do the people who live on that dirt have rest?
 
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