Why Homosexuality MUST Be Recriminalized! Part 4

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Arthur Brain

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In case you hadn't noticed Art, this 4 part thread deals with a lot more than just the recriminalization of homosexuality. Ted Cruz as President, will return certain matters back to the respective States. If you recall, around a dozen or so States still have homosexuality on their legislative books as being a crime.

Federal rulings (Roe v Wade, Lawrence v Texas, Obergefell v Hodges) are partially responsible for getting the United States into the sad shape that we're currently in. I foresee returning to "States Rights" as a way to get us out.

Do you seriously think that those states will be able to pass any such law under his watch? If you're realistic you know fine well that he won't allow it unless he wants to get impeached. The ship has sailed on that now and if he's astute he knows that too, as should you.
 

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Do you seriously think that those states will be able to pass any such law under his watch? If you're realistic you know fine well that he won't allow it unless he wants to get impeached. The ship has sailed on that now and if he's astute he knows that too, as should you.

There is no need to pass any such laws, as they're already on their legislative books. Right now the religious liberty issue is a huge deal. People of faith (and even those who aren't) are being punished for speaking out against homosexuality or simply for abiding by their Christian beliefs.

There are many issues that need to be dealt with when it comes to social policies, and Ted Cruz will be the only one that will address them as President.

No wonder the left is so afraid of him.
 

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There is no need to pass any such laws, as they're already on their legislative books. Right now the religious liberty issue is a huge deal. People of faith (and even those who aren't) are being punished for speaking out against homosexuality or simply for abiding by their Christian beliefs.

There are many issues that need to be dealt with when it comes to social policies, and Ted Cruz will be the only one that will address them as President.

No wonder the left is so afraid of him.

No he won't aCW, not unless he wants his stint as president to collapse like a house of cards. If you think Cruz is your man to even re-criminalize homosexuality in a limited sector then you're totally naive quite frankly. Heck, think about it. If they're already on the 'legislative books' then why aren't they being enforced already?
 

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No he won't aCW, not unless he wants his stint as president to collapse like a house of cards.

"No he won't" what Art? Protect religious liberty? Let the respective States deal with certain issues that the Constitution says should be left to those States? Be specific.

If you think Cruz is your man to even re-criminalize homosexuality in a limited sector then you're totally naive quite frankly. Heck, think about it. If they're already on the 'legislative books' then why aren't they being enforced already?

Lawrence v Texas which overruled State sodomy laws; Obergefell v Hodges which overruled States defining marriage as that between one man and one woman. So you see Art, a Ted Cruz Presidency would hurt the LGBTQ movement and all of the the supposed 'progress' that they've made due to a judicial activist Supreme Court.
 

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With landslide victories in the Kansas and Maine Republican caucuses and close races in Louisiana and Kentucky, Senator Ted Cruz is closing the gap.

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Get active in your respective State's primary or caucuses and keep those prayers coming!
 

Arthur Brain

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"No he won't" what Art? Protect religious liberty? Let the respective States deal with certain issues that the Constitution says should be left to those States? Be specific.

He won't endorse laws that disallow gays the same rights as straights, including getting married. He's a politician and the train has already left the station on the subject. Those states that have it on their books are highly unlikely to enforce them and he is hardly likely to encourage them to do so - not if he values the mantle of president at any rate.

Lawrence v Texas which overruled State sodomy laws; Obergefell v Hodges which overruled States defining marriage as that between one man and one woman. So you see Art, a Ted Cruz Presidency would hurt the LGBTQ movement and all of the the supposed 'progress' that they've made due to a judicial activist Supreme Court.

Then you're rather naive to say the least.
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior
"No he won't" what Art? Protect religious liberty? Let the respective States deal with certain issues that the Constitution says should be left to those States? Be specific.

He won't endorse laws that disallow gays the same rights as straights, including getting married. He's a politician and the train has already left the station on the subject.

Obviously you haven't followed the Ted Cruz candidacy and the things that he's said and the legislation that he's introduced as a US Senator.

Sens. Ted Cruz and Mike Lee Introduce State Marriage Defense Act
http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...and-lee-introduce-state-marriage-defense-act/

Those states that have it on their books are highly unlikely to enforce them and he is hardly likely to encourage them to do so - not if he values the mantle of president at any rate.

It would be out of a President Cruz's hands if the State of Texas were to enforce sodomy laws Art. That's how states rights works. That being said: I would foresee a President Ted Cruz strengthening our military at the federal level by not allowing openly homosexual or transsexuals to enlist.

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Lawrence v Texas which overruled State sodomy laws; Obergefell v Hodges which overruled States defining marriage as that between one man and one woman. So you see Art, a Ted Cruz Presidency would hurt the LGBTQ movement and all of the the supposed 'progress' that they've made due to a judicial activist Supreme Court.

Then you're rather naive to say the least.

Now you hopefully understand why the LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement is dead set against a Ted Cruz presidency.
 

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Pray for Pastor Remington's recovery.

Idaho Pastor Shot, Critically Wounded After Delivering Prayer for Ted Cruz

March 6, 2016

The pastor of a prominent Idaho church was shot and critically wounded in the church's parking lot Sunday, a day after he delivered the invocation at a campaign rally for Republican presidential candidate Ted Cruz, authorities told NBC News.

Tim Remington, 55, senior pastor of the nondenominational Altar Church in Coeur d'Alene, was in critical condition at Kootenai Health and Medical Center late Sunday afternoon, police and the hospital told NBC News.

Coeur d'Alene police Detective Jared Reneau said that when officers arrived shortly before 2 p.m. (5 p.m. ET), they found Remington with multiple gunshot wounds. Matthew Remington, Remington's nephew, told NBC station KTVB of Boise that his uncle was conscious and was talking to emergency workers on the way to the hospital.

The gunman fled and remains at large. Police described the suspect as a white man in his mid-30s, with blond hair. Police didn't expect to make any other information available Sunday night, Reneau said.

Associate pastor John Padula told NBC station KHQ of Spokane, Washington, that there is surveillance of the man waiting in a silver car for Remington.

Padula said the church was praying for the gunman as well as Remington.

"We don't love him less than anybody else," Padula said. "And we pray that he comes to know Jesus Christ as his lord and savior, so we don't want to see anything bad happen to him, either."

Remington, a prominent spokesman for conservative issues, delivered the opening prayer for Cruz, a U.S. senator from Texas who is among the leading candidates for the Republican presidential nomination, at a rally Saturday at the Kootenai County Fairgrounds.

Read more: http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...nded-after-delivering-prayer-ted-cruz-n533006

Politically motivated? I'm sure that someone will be arrested soon and we'll find out the motive.
 

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It would be out of a President Cruz's hands if the State of Texas were to enforce sodomy laws Art. That's how states rights works. That being said: I would foresee a President Ted Cruz strengthening our military at the federal level by not allowing openly homosexual or transsexuals to enlist.

It may be how they work but they're not likely to enforce them are they? It's possible to be executed for treason in Britain but it's not remotely likely and if Texas did become a draconian state then the pressure on Cruz to rescind such laws or at least to be seen to kick off over it would be pretty overwhelming. Face it, it isn't going to happen. If he were interviewed and said that Texas had the right to treat homosexuals in such a manner his credibility would plummet and so would his chances of remaining in office for even a full first term and that wouldn't just be because of some "gay agenda" either. People in general have no truck with extremist mindsets be it zealous Christian fundamentalism or the likes of ISIS. Heck, you've shown some intelligence in your derision of Trump. Show some more by acknowledging the political reality of the matter with Cruz.

Now you hopefully understand why the LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement is dead set against a Ted Cruz presidency.

As above.
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

It would be out of a President Cruz's hands if the State of Texas were to enforce sodomy laws Art. That's how states rights works. That being said: I would foresee a President Ted Cruz strengthening our military at the federal level by not allowing openly homosexual or transsexuals to enlist.
It may be how they work but they're not likely to enforce them are they?

That would be up to the respective States. The States Rights issue doesn't only deal with homosexuality, it would involve abortion as well. Yes, the LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement is truly afraid of having a constitutionalist like Ted Cruz holding the Office of the President of the United States.

It's possible to be executed for treason in Britain but it's not remotely likely and if Texas did become a draconian state then the pressure on Cruz to rescind such laws or at least to be seen to kick off over it would be pretty overwhelming.

I see that you're failing to understand the States Rights issue. Even if California chose to allow homosexual so-called 'marriage', it would be out of the hands of the President of the United States.

Face it, it isn't going to happen. If he were interviewed and said that Texas had the right to treat homosexuals in such a manner his credibility would plummet and so would his chances of remaining in office for even a full first term and that wouldn't just be because of some "gay agenda" either. People in general have no truck with extremist mindsets be it zealous Christian fundamentalism or the likes of ISIS. Heck, you've shown some intelligence in your derision of Trump. Show some more by acknowledging the political reality of the matter with Cruz.

I can see that you're terribly threatened at the idea of someone like Ted Cruz becoming President. The LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement hasn't kept it a secret, thanks for backing them up.
 

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That would be up to the respective States. The States Rights issue doesn't only deal with homosexuality, it would involve abortion as well. Yes, the LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement is truly afraid of having a constitutionalist like Ted Cruz holding the Office of the President of the United States.

I see that you're failing to understand the States Rights issue. Even if California chose to allow homosexual so-called 'marriage', it would be out of the hands of the President of the United States.

I can see that you're terribly threatened at the idea of someone like Ted Cruz becoming President. The LGBTQ/sexual anarchist movement hasn't kept it a secret, thanks for backing them up.

I doubt they're quaking at the prospect aCW and I'm hardly threatened by whatever happens in America one way or the other anyway.
 

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Returning to the "T" in the LGBTQ acronym:

I wanted to address this incident that happened somewhat recently in the Green Lake area of Seattle (it's in the Wallingford district of Seattle, which is minutes north of downtown and just west of the University of Washington, i.e. it's full of highly book-learned liberals for the most part).

Man strips in front of girls in locker room, says transgender law allows it

SEATTLE, Washington, February 18, 2016 (LifeSiteNews) - A man twice entered the changing room of a swimming pool and began disrobing, once in front of a young girls' swim team, saying transgender policies gave him the right to do so.

The unidentified man entered Evans pool in Seattle near Green Lake last Monday, February 8, and began taking off his shirt in front of female patrons.

When asked what he was doing, he said, "The law has changed and I have a right to be here."

"Seeing this individual in the locker room, parents of swim team members (girls) and women who had paid for lap swim became alarmed and alerted our front desk staff," said Seattle Parks spokesman David Takami in a statement. "In response, an Evans pool staff member entered the women's locker room and asked the man to leave." They offered both the man and the girls the opportunity to use a family changing room.

He left, only to return during a later youth lap swim, Takami said.

Officials said he had made no attempt to present himself as a woman, nor to identify as transgender when he checked in. By all appearances, he was a man.

But appearances do not matter when it comes to "gender identity." LGBT theorists hold that biological sex is distinct from gender, which is determined solely by the person's mental self-identification.

Takami affirmed, "We have guidelines that allow transgender individuals to use restrooms and locker rooms consistent with their gender identity."

"We want everyone to feel comfortable in our facilities," he said.

Some patrons feel the man, who has yet to be identified, exploited the law to peep at women. "Either identify yourself as a transgender or you're not, and you're just taking advantage of a loophole," MaryAnne Sato, who visits the pool several times a week, told USA Today.

Read more: https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/m...n-swimming-pool-locker-says-transgender-law-a

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A few points:

1). I find it amusing that the people who overwhelmingly voted for liberal politicians that legislated this insanity complained about a man going into a women's locker room.

2). Nowhere in the legislation (to my knowledge) does a person of the opposite gender have to explain why they're using the specific restroom or locker room.

3). If people who believe in decency really wanted to change this law, they'd organize a statewide act of civil disobedience. Can you imagine thousands of men contacting the legislators in the State Capitol of Olympia and stating "At 3 PM on Thursday we will be entering women's restrooms, locker rooms and other areas designated for women and girls, because at that time, we all coincidentally will feel like women trapped in men's bodies. We will continue to do so until the WA State Legislature comes to their senses and deals with the truly sick people who have either had their genitals mutilated, pretending to be a member of the opposite gender, or in their sick mind believe that they are."

Come on conservatives, let's put civil disobedience to work!
 
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Letting Alwight back in at ACW's request. You can thank ACW for letting you back in. Please try to keep the discussion civil.
 
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I'm all emotional now. (sob) :eek:

Since you were allowed back Al, why not make yourself useful and defend laws that allow a person to use the restroom/locker room of their choice based on their "mental identification" (i.e. which gender they identify with at the moment)?
 

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Since you were allowed back Al, why not make yourself useful and defend laws that allow a person to use the restroom/locker room of their choice based on their "mental identification" (i.e. which gender they identify with at the moment)?
Presumably if you weren't such a stalwart God-fearing Christian fundamentalist aCW you could choose your own gender assignment at the drop of a hat, at will?
 

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Quote Originally Posted by aCultureWarrior

Since you were allowed back Al, why not make yourself useful and defend laws that allow a person to use the restroom/locker room of their choice based on their "mental identification" (i.e. which gender they identify with at the moment)?

Presumably if you weren't such a stalwart God-fearing Christian fundamentalist aCW you could choose your own gender assignment at the drop of a hat, at will?

Come on Al, you can do better than that. Since you and your LGBTQ movement failed so miserably in showing that there is a 'gay' gene that causes homosexual desires, at least try to convince people that some people are born with a 'transsexual' gene that makes them want to cross dress and often times mutilate their genitals.

Without a doubt these morally confused people, who are crying out for help, had childhood trauma like their homosexual counterparts, which caused their confusion.
 

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Come on Al, you can do better than that. Since you and your LGBTQ movement failed so miserably in showing that there is a 'gay' gene that causes homosexual desires, at least try to convince people that some people are born with a 'transsexual' gene that makes them want to cross dress and often times mutilate their genitals.

Without a doubt these morally confused people, who are crying out for help, had childhood trauma like their homosexual counterparts, which caused their confusion.
I'd say that it's rather up to you aCW to show that gay people everywhere are all godless liars and choose to take part in sexual relationships that they are not naturally inclined to do and willingly forgo a heterosexual partnership simply to spite Christians, Muslims etc and whichever gods they follow.
 
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