staind.raindrop
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Jesus came to offer salvation to everyone. He didn't reserve some aspects of it for special people, it's all available to everyone in the law of Christ.
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Jesus came to offer salvation to everyone. He didn't reserve some aspects of it for special people, it's all available to everyone in the law of Christ.
It's strange to you because, you don't understand that, we're
living in the dispensation of Grace! Some of the New Testament
relates only to the Jews! Other writings are for the Gentiles! Paul
was sent to the gentiles! Check and see who was being written to
in the book of James! I'll give you a hint, it wasn't to the gentile
nations!
Jew and gentiles can both come to Christ! However, the Bible must
be rightly divided!
James 1
1 James, a bondservant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ,
To the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad:
Greetings.
According to James, to whom was he writing?
James 2
21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect?
According to James, was Abraham justified by works? According to James, was his faith made perfect by works? These are yes/no questions. No soap box. Your life depends on it.
staind.raindrop
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How can you say it relates only to Jews or Gentiles individually?
staind.raindrop
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Why the dramatics, Fezzik? What is faith?
What?
staind.raindrop
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Who said salvation is different for the Jews and Gentiles?
I'll share this with you. The book of James is addressed to the Jews but there is much of what he writes (the majority of his epistle) that is applicable to every believer.
Nick and Grosnick make a blanket over simplification for what James is saying in regards to faith and works.
That's not necessary gents.
Because James uses the term works differently than Paul uses the term.
For Paul, works is a theological term and he clearly says no works can save us.
For James, his one epistle is not a doctrinal thesis on soteriology At All!
James' epistle is directed at skillfully living for Christ, James' use of the term works is in the practical sense and not in a theological sense - simple.
Both Jew and gentile can place their faith in Christ today! I believe the
"Body of Christ" made up of Jew and Gentile alike is the way God is
working in this dispensation!
Paul MUST be listened to! It's extremely important to read and study
what this Apostle has/had to say! It's a matter of spending eternity
with God or eternal damnation!
what this Apostle has/had to say! It's a matter of spending eternity
with God or eternal damnation!
staind.raindrop
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I don't think you're hearing him.
As Nick stated, James was writing to the scattered twelve tribes!
staind.raindrop
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So why does it matter who the books were addressed to?
You think too much, and believe too little!
OK, so you were the one who was incorrect. Cool.
Because sometimes geography plays a role, sometimes a group of people plays a role. Not everything promised to Abe for example is applicable to Christian Gentiles such as circumcision. But for Paul the act of circumcision was applicable for Timothy a Jew but not for Titus a non Jew .
Hebrews is addressed to believing Jews and what is said to this group of believers had significant generational truths and warnings that were relevant to first century Jews but not generationally relevant to 21 century Christian Gentiles.
If you don't believe the things I've told you then, why ask me
anything? Now, doesn't that make better sense? The definition of
insanity is, : "Doing the same thing over and over again and
expecting different results!"