Rosenritter
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No, you wouldn't. What you are employing is forcing your interpretation upon the text rather than letting it speak for itself.
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No, you wouldn't. What you are employing is forcing your interpretation upon the text rather than letting it speak for itself.
Rosenritter
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How young am I then?
God's Truth
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Who cares how old you are? Show some respect for the aged.
You obviously cannot.
God's Truth
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I can and do.
Oh, you prove yourself to be a judgmental phony baloney who still believes in trinity modes. You are lame idol-servicing modalist.
God's Truth
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All you have are insults. Where did you get that from?
You don't have truth so you have to rely on insults. What else do you have?
God's Truth
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Would you like to debate with Scripture, SabathMoon?
No, because you don't know Biblical and Koine Greek. Most trinitarians like thyself don't understand it at all.
God's Truth
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God brings His Truth to people in their language.
You have many translations in English.
Let's debate.
popsthebuilder
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Just because Christ is now synonymous with the Holy Spirit/ spirit of GOD doesn't mean the Spirit of GOD/ Holy Spirit/ Christ wasn't around until the physical conception of the man Jesus. Nor does it by necessity mean that the Holy Spirit was limited to Jesus.
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glorydaz
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Too young to be lecturing us old people about the condition of our minds or our bodies.
glorydaz
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I'm not about to squabble with Bright Raven about how he chooses to explain the Trinity. He understands it, and, sadly, when those of us attempt to explain it, we are criticised for not explaining it to suit the fancy of those who don't understand it. Man's best attempts at describing the nature of our Great God is bound to fall short. We do our best....accept or reject it as you must.
I was referring to your claim that angels are made in the image of God....unsupported by scripture though it be.
God's Truth
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The major difference is that I wouldn't dream of telling someone that they are not saved for not being a trinitarian. I am careful how I judge others, because with the way I judge others, I will be judged.
That does not mean I do not judge others. It means I am too careful to judge on that.
A man does not consist of the Spirit of God in a human body.
Jesus was born a man with the spirit of a man.
1Co 2:11 For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him?
LA understand that the human spirit of Jesus was from Adam through Mary, but that He was made to conform to Gods word through His conception and upbringing by His Father who is God.
It must be so because Jesus died, and God can not die.
LA
Jesus was not a man in Heaven before He was born as you claim.
Jesus' Father who is the only true God, raised Jesus from the dead and declared Him to be God over the new creation.
Act 2:36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
One can not rely on any accuracy of GTs rendering of what other people say.
The Spirit which came from Heaven to anoint Jesus at His baptism was the Spirit of the Father Himself, but obviously Jesus was alive with His own human spirit before the Father anointed Him with Himself.
Joh 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
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glorydaz
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Why might it appear that way? Because you cannot see Him with your eyes?
Or because He teaches us and reminds us of what Jesus said? Because He testifies of Jesus?
John 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
John 15:26 But when the Comforter is come, whom I will send unto you from the Father, even the Spirit of truth, which proceedeth from the Father, he shall testify of me:
Jesus has sent Him and what does He do?
John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you. 8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment: 9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
He shall not "speak of Himself". Is that proof the Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ are "synonymous" or proof of the ONE GOD in three persons? I guess it depends on what you mean by synonymous.
John 16:13 Howbeit when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will guide you into all truth: for he shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever he shall hear, that shall he speak: and he will shew you things to come. 14 He shall glorify me: for he shall receive of mine, and shall shew it unto you. 15 All things that the Father hath are mine: therefore said I, that he shall take of mine, and shall shew it unto you.