The Simple Process of Salvation Refutes All Religions

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Your ignorant response, in spite of the scriptures which I posted, bears evidence of your lost condition.

2 Cor. 4:3-4
3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

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You are one of the blind.

You don't understand the Gospel and justification by faith.

You see everything through Calvinism, which is a false religion and is anti-Christ.
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
You are one of the blind.

You don't understand the Gospel and justification by faith.

You see everything through Calvinism, which is a false religion and is anti-Christ.
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According to your understanding, explain what is Justification by Faith.

Don't forget to reference supporting scriptures.

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Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
You are one of the blind.

You don't understand the Gospel and justification by faith.

You see everything through Calvinism, which is a false religion and is anti-Christ.
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Scripture is clear that those who were Chosen to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love were predestinated to the Adoption of Sons Eph. 1:4-5 by Grace given them before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.

The Truth is clearly presented in the scriptures, but you are prevented from understanding it 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
According to your understanding, explain what is Justification by Faith.

Don't forget to reference supporting scriptures.

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We are justified by faith because we are justified by Christ, Romans 3:26.

Jesus Christ is the one that Justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Jesus acting in our name and our behalf is what saves us and makes us pleasing to God.
 
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Robert Pate

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Nanja said:
Scripture is clear that those who were Chosen to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love were predestinated to the Adoption of Sons Eph. 1:4-5 by Grace given them before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.

The Truth is clearly presented in the scriptures, but you are prevented from understanding it 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

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You don't get it. In God's mind Jesus was crucified before the foundation of the world.

God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ.

Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus God is at peace with the world, Colossians 1:20.

However, there will be a judgment when Jesus appears.
 
beloved57

beloved57

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Robert Pate said:
You don't get it. In God's mind Jesus was crucified before the foundation of the world.

God sees ALL THINGS in his Son Jesus Christ.

Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus God is at peace with the world, Colossians 1:20.

However, there will be a judgment when Jesus appears.
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beloved57

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Just Particular sinners, His People; a Peculiar People.

Titus 2:13-14
13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.

The Greek word for peculiar is periousios:

1. that which is one's own, belonging to one's possessions
A. a people selected by God from the other nations for his own possession


Mat. 1:21
And she shall bring forth a son, and thou shalt call his name JESUS: for he shall save his people from their sins.

And His People Christ came to Save are same ones referred to as the "all men" of John 12:32; His Sheep John 10:11.15.


Now is that inclusive of all the people in the whole world of mankind?


No. Only the many given Him of the Father:

John 17:1-2
1 These words spake Jesus, and lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, Father, the hour is come; glorify thy Son, that thy Son also may glorify thee:
2 As thou hast given him power over all flesh, that he should give eternal life to as many as thou hast given him.

The Children of God by Election from the foundation of the world Eph. 1:4-5.


But all the rest of mankind are NOT His people that He came to save, but they are the cursed seed of the devil.

Mat. 13:38-39
38 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;
39 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.


Mat. 25:32-34, 41
32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

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Excellent Post!
 
Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
Because of the doing and the dying of Jesus God is at peace with the world, Colossians 1:20.
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The only 'world' at peace / harmony with God are the Elect chosen in Christ to have remission of sins Eph. 1:4-11 are His Sheep John 10:11, 15; Is. 53:6.

But God is not at peace with these which remain under His Wrath and Condemnation John 3:18, 36!

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Nanja

Nanja

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Robert Pate said:
We are justified by faith because we are justified by Christ, Romans 3:26.

Jesus Christ is the one that Justifies the ungodly, Romans 4:5 and reconciles the world unto God, 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Jesus acting in our name and our behalf is what saves us and makes us pleasing to God.
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Those verses point exclusively to the Faith of God's Elect Titus 1:1, which is also a Fruit of the Spirit given to each one of them in New Birth Gal. 5:22.
For that's the only "world" God reconciled to Himself because of their Surety's Heb. 7:22 Blood which was shed on their behalf Is. 53:6.

But those who believe not are a condemned world John 3:18, 36.

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God's Truth

God's Truth

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Robert Pate said:
God's elect are those who trust and believe in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.

You are not one of the elect.
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People are ensnared by the devil to preach lies. Does it sound like an ensnaring to you to preach we do not have to obey to be saved and to stay saved?
 
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Nanja said:
Scripture is clear that those who were Chosen to be Holy and without blame before Him in Love were predestinated to the Adoption of Sons Eph. 1:4-5 by Grace given them before the world began 2 Tim. 1:9.

The Truth is clearly presented in the scriptures, but you are prevented from understanding it 2 Cor. 4:3-4.

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We are all chosen. We are all Holy and without blame.
Every person is saved. Every person is elect and predestined - get that through your thick skull

John 3:16 KJV -
 
beloved57

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God's elect are those who trust and believe in Jesus Christ alone for their salvation.
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True, but they are Gods Elect before that! If one does not trust and believe in Jesus Christ as their Saviour its because they were never elect/sheep Jn 10:26

26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
 
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