The Only Guarantee Of Salvation

[Squeaky]

Shalom.

Today is Rishon, the first day of the week. I believe today is Aviv 16, counting from Rosh Chodesh but not having seen the new moon.

From my reading of Scripture I cannot corroborate what you are saying.

Shalom.

Jacob

I said
lol You being blinded I don't doubt that. And you never will, God told you that. I didn't blind you God did. Take it up with Him.


[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

 

[Jacob]

I said
lol You being blinded I don't doubt that. And you never will, God told you that. I didn't blind you God did. Take it up with Him.


[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

As a child I learned to go by what the Scriptures say.

 

[Squeaky]

As a child I learned to go by what the Scriptures say.

I said
Then do it. Go by what these scriptures say.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

 

[Jacob]

I said
Then do it. Go by what these scriptures say.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

I already do. And I chose to obey God's commandments. Does that make me a Jew or of Israel or both?

 

[Squeaky]

I already do. And I chose to obey God's commandments. Does that make me a Jew or of Israel or both?

I said
That makes you blind.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

 

[Jacob]

I said
That makes you blind.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

Never mind. Your answer shows a lack of comprehension.

 

[Squeaky]

Never mind. Your answer shows a lack of comprehension.

I said
My answer shows I believe these verses. But you don't.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

 

[Jacob]

I said
My answer shows I believe these verses. But you don't.

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

I do.

 

[Squeaky]

I do.

I said
If you do that should tell you why I can see a lot of things in the new testament you cant see.

 

[Jacob]

I said
If you do that should tell you why I can see a lot of things in the new testament you cant see.

What are you thinking of? I do not understand your logic here.

 

[Squeaky]

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;

What are you thinking of? I do not understand your logic here.

I said
I asked you if you believe them verses you said yes. That means you believe the Jews are partially blinded. I agree. Even you.

 

[Jacob]

[Rom 11:25
25 For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.
[Eph 4:18
18 having their understanding darkened, being alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the blindness of their heart;



I said
I asked you if you believe them verses you said yes. That means you believe the Jews are partially blinded. I agree. Even you.

The first verse says Israel
Jews are not mentioned.
However, I was once a Gentile

 

[Squeaky]

The first verse says Israel
Jews are not mentioned.
However, I was once a Gentile

I said
Your rambling.

 

[Jacob]

I said
Your rambling.

no

 

[Squeaky]

no

I said
Useless information.

 

[Jacob]

I said
Useless information.

That I was once a Gentile means I understand this from the Gentile perspective but now I am a Jew.

Did you know some people believe that Israel would not become a nation again in the land of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles had come in or came in?

 

[Squeaky]

That I was once a Gentile means I understand this from the Gentile perspective but now I am a Jew.

Did you know some people believe that Israel would not become a nation again in the land of Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles had come in or came in?

I said
Rambling.

 

[Jacob]

I said
Rambling.

no

what does it mean to you to be grafted in, or do you know, or do you believe that you are? Grafted in to what?

 

[Squeaky]

no

what does it mean to you to be grafted in, or do you know, or do you believe that you are? Grafted in to what?

I said
Jews were broken off, and I was grafted in.
[Rom 11:17, 19
17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, ...
19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in."

 

[Jacob]

I said
Jews were broken off, and I was grafted in.
[Rom 11:17, 19
17 And if some of the branches were broken off, and you, being a wild olive tree, were grafted in among them, and with them became a partaker of the root and fatness of the olive tree, ...
19 You will say then, "Branches were broken off that I might be grafted in."

so don't become arrogant and who can be grafted in again?