You have no interest in this so I suggest you should stop wasting your valuable time here. I'm sure you've wasted at least 2 hours, about the same amount of time it would take you to see a video.
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The earth is flat and we never went to the moon
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You have no interest in this so I suggest you should stop wasting your valuable time here. I'm sure you've wasted at least 2 hours, about the same amount of time it would take you to see a video.
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You would circle a globe to stay due east, and you would circle the flat earth model to do the same thing.
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Spin any object and see if any thing on it stays there.
A spinning planet defies physical law and miraculously holds everything on it, although things can move around on it, wow.
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All of our sensory perception is that the clouds, sun and moon move across the sky of an immovable earth. From planes we move across an immovable earth. We never imagine or sense that the earth is moving.
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Daniel1769
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One could circumnavigate the sphere or a disk. Circumnavigation doesn't really prove or disprove either.
Daniel1769
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There aren't people that still think the earth is flat. Everyone is brought up with heliocentric model. There are researchers who are raising points about the Copernican model based on observation and experiments like those by Michelson and Morley, Sagnac, Brahe, etc. The problem is, the heliocentrists will criticize the flat model all day, which is fine, but they don't seem to answer the issues raised by geocentrist and flat earth researchers.
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Although, I do believe that someday humanity will attempt to send a manned spacecraft to the Sun. However, they'll have to take the added precaution and land during the nighttime, while the surface is cool.
Greg Jennings
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Did you watch the moon flag video I gave you? Just 3 minutes!
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I think this was a joke, and I enjoyed it
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According to the flat Earth model, the entire land surface of Earth is on the top of the disk, and the water is contained by ice the entire way around the edge of the disk.
Explain how you could possibly circumnavigate that?
Shouldn't this thread be in the "And the rest" area of TOL?
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When you are in a car going 60 mph on the highway, do you feel like your body is moving at 60 mph? Of course not, because your body is moving with the same velocity as the car. You don't feel anything until you hit the brakes and your momentum carried you forward.
The Earth can't hit the brakes, but if it did, you'd feel it
Saying it doesn't make it so, Dave.
There are whole fields of science with multiple thousands of scientists that all depend, to one degree or another, on the fact that gravity works.
Newton's law of gravity, in addition to being very well known (as in not a secret or written in some sort of unintelligible code known only to some all powerful elite), they are also quite easily testable. They are, in fact, demonstrably true and you can prove it yourself in your own garage.
Not only that but Isaac Newton was a Christian who not only believed in a biblical worldview but accepted the bible as literally true.
So, where is the motive?
You're talking about a multinational, muti-generational, multi-century conspiracy to convince us all that the Earth isn't flat.
WHY?
Even if such a vast conspiracy where possible to maintain, which it isn't, where's the motive to do so?
Why, oh why would anyone care if we figured out that the Earth wasn't a sphere?
How is anyone profiting from the propagation of a round-earth conspiracy? Who's power is maintained by keeping the flatness of the Earth a secret?
If it's so important that people be kept in the dark about the non-spherical nature of the Earth that the secret has been maintained across the whole world for centuries, why haven't the producers of this video all had sudden a very tragic accidents and the video deleted and wiped from existence? You haven't seen any strange characters watching your house from non-descript van's across the street, have you? Have you noticed any black helicopters flying overhead on your way to work? Maybe they aren't doing traffic reports after all!
Forgive my facetiousness. Seriously, where's the motive?
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Yes, which it does.
The bible is not science text-book, Daniel.
We all say that the sun rises in the east and sets in the west. We all say this in spite of knowing that the sun isn't really what's doing the moving and yet we all understand what is being said and no one thinks that we are suggesting that the Earth is stationary on its axis. Amazing how language works, isn't it?
You don't really believe that the entire universe revolves around the stationary Earth once a day or that these passages are suggesting such a thing, do you?
No, it doesn't.
Not in the way you are suggesting.
If it does, the bible is false and we are all idiots for believing it.
Not only does the Earth move but the word used in that verse refers to the inhabited portion of the world which also moves.
If this is how you do your theology, you're a lost cause. You may as well believe in Santa Claus and the Tooth Fairy.
Floatation is a function of GRAVITY!
The reason more dense things sink is because gravity is pulling on them more than it is pulling on the less dense things.
Smoke only rises because it is warmer (and therefore less dense) than the air surrounding it. When that condition no longer exists it stops rising - BECAUSE OF GRAVITY!!!
The is the funniest example of a stolen concept fallacy I have ever seen committed. You are accepting that differences in density cause things to float or sink but rejecting the concept upon which that idea is based. You accept the effect while rejecting the cause.
Hysterical!
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Of course, it allows for video, I've posted one on this very thread.
But what I have not done is let the video do the work for me. I post actual arguments that people can respond to directly without having to watch some video. I am not going to watch a video, transcribe one or more of its arguments into text for you and then write up responses.
If you want to debate the issue, I'm happy to do so but I'm not interested in debating a video. I'll debate you all day long because you're an intelligent guy and it would be interesting and fun. The closest I'm going to get to debating a video is by posting a link to another video. Boring.
Jerry Shugart
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No, if you went due East and kept going on a flat earth then sooner or later you will fall of the earth.
Hey! An actual argument!
It doesn't mean the Earth isn't moving, it means the plane and atmosphere its flying through are moving along with the Earth. It's the same effect that allows someone to juggle on a moving train. Your argument is the equivalent of the juggler stating the his ability to juggle proves the moving train is stationary.
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