Reconciliation Scriptures Refutes Calvinism

Robert Pate

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If one party only is "reconciled" to another party, whatever is going on between them is not reconciliation.

If all are reconciled, Paul would be silly at best to call on others to be reconciled. If we become reconciled when we trust than we are not reconciled until we trust and not all are reconciled.

A full reconciliation occurs when both parties agree to be reconciled. This is why Paul said, "Be reconciled to God" 2 Corinthians 5:20.

It is possible for one party to be reconciled to the another party without their consent.

"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.
 

Nanja

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The free gift is accepted by faith and rejected by unbelief. Why is that so hard?

Calvinism is an elaborate system of unbelief.


False religion teaches that salvation is offered to all of humanity and is accomplished by works they do to one degree or another.


But the True Gospel teaches that the Gift of God's Grace was given exclusively to all the Election of Grace who were chosen in Union with Christ Eph 1:4-6 before the world began; and that God, according to His Purpose, works all things after the counsel of his will:


Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will


2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

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Robert Pate

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False religion teaches that salvation is offered to all of humanity and is accomplished by works they do to one degree or another.


But the True Gospel teaches that the Gift of God's Grace was given exclusively to all the Election of Grace who were chosen in Union with Christ Eph 1:4-6 before the world began; and that God, according to His Purpose, works all things after the counsel of his will:


Eph. 1:11
In whom also we have obtained an inheritance, being predestinated according to the purpose of him who worketh all things after the counsel of his own will


2 Tim. 1:9
Who hath saved us, and called us with an holy calling, not according to our works, but according to his own purpose and grace, which was given us in Christ Jesus before the world began

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You have not been predestinated and you are not a Christian.

You cannot reject the "Historical Gospel" and be saved.

You cannot reject the fact that God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ and be saved.
 

Brother Ducky

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A full reconciliation occurs when both parties agree to be reconciled. This is why Paul said, "Be reconciled to God" 2 Corinthians 5:20.

It is possible for one party to be reconciled to the another party without their consent.

"God was in Christ reconciling the world unto himself" 2 Corinthians 5:19.

Make a case for a unilateral reconciliation. The nature of reconciliation is the removal of whatever has separated two parties. A unilateral reconciliation is just not reconciliation.
 

Epoisses

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False religion teaches that salvation is offered to all of humanity and is accomplished by works they do to one degree or another.


Faith is not a human work and actually Calvinism hinges on this falsehood. Faith is also not a choice and it is not predestination either. Narrowing down what it is not helps to see what it actually is. Faith is belief pure and simple. When we hear something we either believe it or we don't, there is no effort involved. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God Rom. 10:17.
 

beloved57

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nanja

False religion teaches that salvation is offered to all of humanity

Yep thats a lie, Salvation is promised to Gods Elect Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.
 

beloved57

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Faith is not a human work .
Faith is a work period, its a work of the law that ought to be done Matt 23:23
23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

 

beloved57

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Make a case for a unilateral reconciliation. The nature of reconciliation is the removal of whatever has separated two parties. A unilateral reconciliation is just not reconciliation.

The reconciliation Christ's death effected , reconciles God to man, man to God ! Rom 5:10; Col 1:21-22

21 And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
22 In the body of his flesh through death,
 

Nanja

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nanja



Yep thats a lie, Salvation is promised to Gods Elect Isa 45:17

17 But Israel shall be saved in the Lord with an everlasting salvation: ye shall not be ashamed nor confounded world without end.


Exactly, all His Elect from all the nations of the earth, the Chosen Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16.
They comprise the only World that God Loved John 3:16; chosen in Love Eph. 1:4-5 before the foundation.

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beloved57

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Exactly, all His Elect from all the nations of the earth, the Chosen Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16.
They comprise the only World that God Loved John 3:16; chosen in Love Eph. 1:4-5 before the foundation.

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Exactly!

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Robert Pate

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Make a case for a unilateral reconciliation. The nature of reconciliation is the removal of whatever has separated two parties. A unilateral reconciliation is just not reconciliation.

God is now at peace with the world because of the doing and the dying of Jesus.

"And having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile ALL THINGS unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in the earth or things in heaven" Colossians 1:20.

We have been totally and completely reconciled to God by Jesus Christ. No one needs to be predestinated.
 

Robert Pate

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Exactly, all His Elect from all the nations of the earth, the Chosen Seed of Christ Gal. 3:16.
They comprise the only World that God Loved John 3:16; chosen in Love Eph. 1:4-5 before the foundation.

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If God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19, then that means that salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9, so that now, "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

God is not the cruel mean tyrant that you think he is.
 

Epoisses

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Faith is a work period, its a work of the law that ought to be done Matt 23:23
[/COLOR]23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the weightier matters of the law, judgment, mercy, and faith: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.


Yea the law of faith!

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Rom. 3:27,28

Paul rebukes you
 

beloved57

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Yea the law of faith!

Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. 28 Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith without the deeds of the law. Rom. 3:27,28

Paul rebukes you
You don't believe the scripture

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Nanja

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If God has reconciled the world unto himself by Jesus Christ, 2 Corinthians 5:19, then that means that salvation has been provided for everyone, Hebrews 2:9, so that now, "Whosoever that shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved" Romans 10:13.

God is not the cruel mean tyrant that you think he is.


You're blinded to the Truth 2 Cor. 4:3-4!


The World that Christ reconciled to Himself 2 Cor. 5:19; Rom. 4:8 is an Elect World.
They were chosen in Union with Christ from everlasting to be holy and blamless and have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7; Is. 53:6!


But the reprobate world will remain under condemnation until the end because they were condemned already John 3:18.

Rev. 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


Hence, two different worlds of humanity altogether!

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Robert Pate

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You're blinded to the Truth 2 Cor. 4:3-4!


The World that Christ reconciled to Himself 2 Cor. 5:19; Rom. 4:8 is an Elect World.
They were chosen in Union with Christ from everlasting to be holy and blamless and have forgiveness of sins Eph. 1:4-7; Is. 53:6!


But the reprobate world will remain under condemnation until the end because they were condemned already John 3:18.

Rev. 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

John 3:36
He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.


Hence, two different worlds of humanity altogether!

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The only way that you can make sense out of your false doctrine is to add words to God's word.

Nowhere does it say that God reconciled the elect world to himself.

Colossians 1:20 says that those that were enemies have been reconciled to God.

You are not able to come to the truth because you don't have the Holy Spirit.
 
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