Public Schools are Sin!
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CRASH said:
As a homeschooling mom, I have to say that I support homeschooling one hundred percent. But, as a mom in general, I have to say that I support the rights of the parents to choose how to educate their children more than I do homeschooling.
I know that public schools are, in general, cesspools. Personally, since my daughter reached school age, I've never encountered one "good" public school. But, some Christian parents say that they have found "good" public schools.
Needless to say, I have a real problem with anybody telling non-homeschooling Christians that they're "not truly Christians" or that they're "sinning if they send their kids to public school." Some people haven't experience the problems I've seen in a lot of public (and private) schools in their own public schools. As a rule, smaller towns' schools will have less problems than big cities' schools.
I've convinced people that they should homeschool. I've helped people start homeschooling. I've written curriculum for new homeschoolers. But, it has to be the choice of the parents.
keypurr said:
I have to agree with keypurr on this one. Although I've done my best to raise my daughter as a Christian, she now, at fifteen years old, says, "I don't know if I believe in God or not." I don't know how I could have done better to convince her, although I am trying to show her through scripture and my own example.
erinmarie
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CRASH said:The author probably went to public school
Good call.
OK OK! I've had enough of this comment. I went to public school and I'm not an idiot! I'm sick of it being implied that I am.
I absolutely plan on homeschooling my children, am growing in the ways of The Lord, and I think I'm pretty darn smart. Just because my parents made a mistake doesn't mean that everyone on this board that believes in homeschooling can call people who went to public school stupid.
CRASH
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ebenz47037 said:
Of course parents should have the right to make choices about thier children. However, it is always wrong for the gooberment to steal money from people to indoctrinate the youth of the nation with anti Christian values. I don't have a choice! They have gun to my head to steal the money!
I never said they are not Christians. I said they are sinning. It is a sin to send your children to the heathan every day to be raised. Sure a few people get out of the schools without being totally destroyed morally but that is rare. I went to a small town school and we had as much drugs and sex as any big city school. Don't be decieved.
If parents were not having so much money stolen from them by the gooberment, they would have plenty of money to start private schools, send thier kids to private schools and homescool. Many parents have no choice now because so many Christians have bought into the evil notion of governement schools. Choice!?!?!? Sad, but many don't have the choice to escape!
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CRASH
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erinmarie said:
I never said you were an idiot. But many are and the system deserves to be mocked for the destructive system that it is.
What are you talking about anyway? I went to public school also, and watched the destruction of lives and peoples character that surrounded me everywhere for 16 years. If you are so smart and growing in the ways of the Lord you would join me in warning people about the government schools. At my business we have a heck of a time finding people with a grasp of the most basic math and gramatical skills.
CRASH said:
I agree with you about the money part. I homeschool my daughter. Yet, I still have to pay taxes to send my neighbors' kids to public school. From the time she started school until now (middle of her 10th grade year), my daughter has attended public school for less than one entire school year. She was in private school for kindergarten and first grade, and then again for one semester in sixth grade. She went to public school for one month in second grade (I started homeschooling then at the suggestion of her teacher.) and then again for about four months in the fourth grade (My husband had just passed away and we moved from CA to IN. And, we were really getting on each others' nerves.). Other than that, she's been homeschooled all the way through school.
I'm not deceived. I went to public school myself. Only difference is between your experience in public school and mine is that I went to both rural and urban schools (I was a navy brat who went to more than fifteen schools from grades k thru 12). In my experience, the urban schools had more drugs and sex, by a long shot. I'm guessing that you're a lot younger than I am if the rural schools were that bad for you.
What I am trying to say is that some parents believe that they have found good schools to enrol their children in. I don't have to agree with them. It's their decision. They are doing the best they think they can do.
Lately, I've been talking to a couple of families who have their kids in public school. They can't afford private school and don't think they're qualified to homeschool. They've bought into the NEA claptrap that parents aren't qualified to teach their own children. I've been working slowly with these families, pointing out that the public schools didn't teach their children to walk or talk or use the toilet. Little by little, they're beginning to understand that the NEA has an agenda.
I don't believe that sending your kids to public school is necessarily a sin. I think that the Christian parents who do so are trying to educate their children in the best way they know how. It may take something drastic, like when the public school here told me that parental involvement in school meant that I was supposed to make my daughter do the work and teach her to never try to go ahead of the other students, to get them to completely leave the system. Some of them may need more of a slap to get them to see what's going on.
But, you will never convince Christian parents not to send their children to public schools if you get snotty and confrontational about it. I'm not talking about being weak in expressing your ideas. I talk to parents all the time about homeschooling. And, I don't play the PC "I don't want to hurt your feelings" card either. I tell them what I see is wrong with public schools and tell them why I think that homeschooling is the best course of action as far as my child's education goes. I don't tell people that they're sinning if they send their children to public school. I don't think they are.
CRASH
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Thanks for your response!
Thanks for your response!
I am not trying to be snotty, I pretty much agree with you about everything and I am sorry to hear about your husband. That must have been very difficult.
I don't think I am as young as you might think - I am 42. Drugs were readily available from numerous sources in the 70's in our town of about 10,000. Some kids were having sex in Jr. high after we went through "sex education." and smoking pot in 6th grade. Sin was rampant there and from what I could tell living in cities for the past 25 years it is getting worse in both places. I saw speed for the first time in the 5th grade when a kid brought it to school.
The only main thing we disagree on is whether it is a sin. Try to answer these questions from God's perspective.
1. As a Christian parent, is it sinful to let people who hate God teach things to your children day after day, week after week and year after year and will that effect their thinking toward God?
2. Is it sinful to send your children into a place where the "education" is expressly God-less?
3. What would God have done to Mary and Joseph if they had sent little Jesus over to the Philistines to be "educated" 5 days a week for 12 years?
4. If you know the government school is destroying the vast majority of people who pass through it and you did nothing to warn them, would that be a sin?
5. As a Christian parent, in general, what will your relationship be like with your children when they are 16 - Homeschooled vs. Public School?
6. Are you fulfilling your role as a Christian parent when you abdicate your authority to a false religion promoting, pro-abortion, pro-child sex, pro-homosexual, pro-socialist, pro-rabid environmentalist, anti-Christian, anti child discipline, government school?
7. If not, would you be sinning?
Thanks
Thanks for your response!
ebenz47037 said:
I am not trying to be snotty, I pretty much agree with you about everything and I am sorry to hear about your husband. That must have been very difficult.
I don't think I am as young as you might think - I am 42. Drugs were readily available from numerous sources in the 70's in our town of about 10,000. Some kids were having sex in Jr. high after we went through "sex education." and smoking pot in 6th grade. Sin was rampant there and from what I could tell living in cities for the past 25 years it is getting worse in both places. I saw speed for the first time in the 5th grade when a kid brought it to school.
The only main thing we disagree on is whether it is a sin. Try to answer these questions from God's perspective.
1. As a Christian parent, is it sinful to let people who hate God teach things to your children day after day, week after week and year after year and will that effect their thinking toward God?
2. Is it sinful to send your children into a place where the "education" is expressly God-less?
3. What would God have done to Mary and Joseph if they had sent little Jesus over to the Philistines to be "educated" 5 days a week for 12 years?
4. If you know the government school is destroying the vast majority of people who pass through it and you did nothing to warn them, would that be a sin?
5. As a Christian parent, in general, what will your relationship be like with your children when they are 16 - Homeschooled vs. Public School?
6. Are you fulfilling your role as a Christian parent when you abdicate your authority to a false religion promoting, pro-abortion, pro-child sex, pro-homosexual, pro-socialist, pro-rabid environmentalist, anti-Christian, anti child discipline, government school?
7. If not, would you be sinning?
Thanks