pacifism for true Jesus' followers.

meshak

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Readers,

I put most of nasty pro-military posters on ignore.

They are to disgusting to read.

I read them when someone quote them.

their comments are health hazardous.

blessings.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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It is not gossip meshak...it is the truth...the military is your lord, if they withdrew the home you live in and the pension you live on where will you be?


....and it is the American taxpayer who funds it.


You are up to your old tricks.

Meshak would most likely have to return to her homeland, Okinawa Japan?
 

meshak

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Readers,

You have been witnessing -military posters nasty behaviors.

they are showing their true colors with their behaviors.

True Jesus' followers don't go down to using the nasty tactics to silence the Truth.

that's what happens when you claim to be His followers yet disregard Jesus' teachings or commands.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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It is not gossip meshak...it is the truth...the military is your lord, if they withdrew the home you live in and the pension you live on where will you be?


....and it is the American taxpayer who funds it.


You are up to your old tricks.

You're right Totton. Before she was ranting about how bad The Trinitarians are, now it's pro-military posters. She always has the same M.O.
 

meshak

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Jesus followers should not endorse any kind of violent practice such as joying the military.

Here is my verses to back up my claim:

Luke 6:27-36 King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Fatheralso is merciful.

and some more:

Matthew 26:52
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."
John 18:36

And His faithful disciple harmonize with Jesus' word:

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 corinthian 10:4-5)

Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."

Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

these are what the pro-military posters or Christians speaking against.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Meshak is:

1) Annoying.
2) Ignorant
3) Intolerant of the truth.
4) Anti-Gospel.
5) Anti-military.
6) Anti-Apostle Paul.
7) Anti-Ascended Christ.
8) Anti-Trinatarian.
9) Anti-logic/reason.
10)Anti-answering questions.
11)Anti-discussion.
12)Anti-social.
13)Anti-relevant.
14)Anti-debate.
15)Anti-sensible.
16)Anti-intelligence.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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She was banned for a long time for causing all kinds of disruption about posters who believe in the Trinity. She comes back and starts the same disruption about the USA military. She never changes.
 

Totton Linnet

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I totally respect the pacifist argument, I respect genuine pacifists. I am not a pacifist, I do not believe the bible is pacifist.

What gets my goat is that shackles USES pacifism to accuse the church as though the church was responsible for all the wars of history.

I marched with my dad against the Iraq war, I was against the bombing of Libya, I am against western policy in Syria...I am even against sanctions [which is the modern equivalent of the ancient art of siege] against Russia.

I am not pro war, I AM pro peace and I believe 99.9 of Christians are the same.

shackles is just warring against the church...if she simply argued for Pacifism I would never disturb her for it.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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I totally respect the pacifist argument, I respect genuine pacifists. I am not a pacifist, I do not believe the bible is pacifist.

What gets my goat is that shackles USES pacifism to accuse the church as though the church was responsible for all the wars of history.

I marched with my dad against the Iraq war, I was against the bombing of Libya, I am against western policy in Syria...I am even against sanctions [which is the modern equivalent of the ancient art of siege] against Russia.

I am not pro war, I AM pro peace and I believe 99.9 of Christians are the same.

shackles is just warring against the church...if she simply argued for Pacifism I would never disturb her for it.

Meshak deservedly got herself banned again. When she picks a subject she gets obsessive about that subject to the point of annoyance. It used to be she despised those who believe in the Trinity, which is almost everybody on TOL. When she came back from being banned the last time, she goes to war against the military. She's a "One Trick Pony" when it comes to discussions. She refuses to answer any questions or debate. She just wants to preach her false doctrine and threaten to put posters on ignore if they disagree with her. Then, she continues to peek to see what they're saying, no doubt.
 

Lazy afternoon

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Jesus followers should not endorse any kind of violent practice such as joying the military.

Here is my verses to back up my claim:

Luke 6:27-36 King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Fatheralso is merciful.

and some more:

Matthew 26:52
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."
John 18:36

And His faithful disciple harmonize with Jesus' word:

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 corinthian 10:4-5)

Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."

Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

This only applies to followers of Jesus.

LA
 

serpentdove

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[Pacifism for True Jesus Followers]
[Perversion of Ro 13]

She'll be the first to surrender her gun. :dizzy: Get all your guns registered Meshak. :scripto: That will help them out. :chuckle:


See:

Lone Wolf :BillyBob:
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FEMA Pastors: Pastor's Response Team & 501c3's
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As a reminder Meshak is number 17 on Satan, Inc. (TOL Heretics list) in "The 'Jesus is not God' people (Non-trinitarians) category. :burnlib:
 
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meshak

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Jesus followers should not endorse any kind of violent practice such as joying the military.

Here is my verses to back up my claim:

Luke 6:27-36 King James Version)

27But I say unto you which hear, Love your enemies, do good to them which hate you,
28Bless them that curse you, and pray for them which despitefully use you.
29And unto him that smiteth thee on the one cheek offer also the other; and him that taketh away thy cloak forbid not to take thy coat also.
30Give to every man that asketh of thee; and of him that taketh away thy goods ask them not again.
31And as ye would that men should do to you, do ye also to them likewise.
32For if ye love them which love you what thank have ye? for sinners also love those that love them. 33And if ye do good to them which do good to you, what thank have ye? for sinners also do even the same.
34And if ye to them of whom ye hope to receive, what thank have ye? for sinners also lend to sinners, to receive as much again.
35But love ye your enemies, and do good, and lend, hoping for nothing again; and your shall be great, and ye shall be the children of the Highest: for he is kind unto the unthankful and to the evil.
36Be ye therefore merciful, as your Fatheralso is merciful.

and some more:

Matthew 26:52
“Put your sword back in its place,” Jesus said to him, “for all who draw the sword will die by the sword.

Matthew 5:9
Blessed are the peacemakers, For they shall be called sons of God.

Jesus answered, "My kingdom is not of this world. If My kingdom were of this world, then My servants would be fighting so that I would not be handed over to the Jews; but as it is, My kingdom is not of this realm."
John 18:36

And His faithful disciple harmonize with Jesus' word:

For though we live in the world, we do not wage war as the world does. The weapons we fight with are not the weapons of the world. On the contrary, they have divine power to demolish strongholds. We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ. (2 corinthian 10:4-5)

Romans 12:17-21
17Repay no one evil for evil. Have regard for good things in the sight of all men. 18If it is possible, as much as depends on you, live peaceably with all men. 19Beloved, do not avenge yourselves, but rather give place to wrath; for it is written, "Vengeance is Mine, I will repay," says the Lord. 20Therefore "If your enemy is hungry, feed him; If he is thirsty, give him a drink; For in so doing you will heap coals of fire on his head." 21Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

II Corinthians 10:3,4
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal but mighty in God for pulling down strongholds."

Ephesians 6:12
"For we do not wrestle against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this age, against spiritual hosts of wickedness in the heavenly places."

I would like to bump this thread and this is another an excellent thread:)
 
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