Meuller gets another one.

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The Barbarian

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Is it just me, or has this become the Obama "birther" thing all over again?

Not getting much traction this time. The "Obama knew about this and didn't do anything" story fell apart as soon as it was shown that Obama had taking action against Russian for their interference.

If they ever find anything, it will be far too late to matter at all.

Already Mueller's got himself a few felons, most of whom have already pleaded guilty. More to come. Be patient.

The only people impacted by this are the lawyers cashing their checks.

Tell the perps who have already pleaded guilty. That should cheer them up.

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Trump, for example, seems obsessed with the investigation.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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Yep ... he is starting at the bottom with the hope that they will flip. What we DO know is that Trump's reaction and stand on Russia is not normal. He behaves like he is guilty ... and has shown he has no desire to protect America from another cyber attack/disinformation campaign.


I realize you're an atheist/agnostic and a socialist, however, do you also have the uncanny ability to read the hearts and minds of fellow human beings?
 

jgarden

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I realize you're an atheist/agnostic and a socialist, however, do you also have the uncanny ability to read the hearts and minds of fellow human beings?

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rexlunae

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It's been a really active week, even though it's a short one, basically either new indictments, new plea agreements, or new cooperating witnesses every day. Today, Rick Gates finally came in from the cold, and pleaded to charges that could bring 4-6 years in prison by themselves, and also signed a comprehensive cooperation agreement with prosecutors. He was also indicted for lying to the FBI during his initial proffer, which means that after telling the FBI all sorts of things that were incriminating, he lost his immunity.

Rick Gates is now wholly owned by Robert Mueller's team. The indictments cover the entire period of the campaign that he worked on. And he sure looks central to the hooks the Russians had into the Trump campaign. Every other person in the campaign who has any exposure should now be panicking.
 

The Barbarian

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It's been a really active week, even though it's a short one, basically either new indictments, new plea agreements, or new cooperating witnesses every day. Today, Rick Gates finally came in from the cold, and pleaded to charges that could bring 4-6 years in prison by themselves, and also signed a comprehensive cooperation agreement with prosecutors. He was also indicted for lying to the FBI during his initial proffer, which means that after telling the FBI all sorts of things that were incriminating, he lost his immunity.

Rick Gates is now wholly owned by Robert Mueller's team. The indictments cover the entire period of the campaign that he worked on. And he sure looks central to the hooks the Russians had into the Trump campaign. Every other person in the campaign who has any exposure should now be panicking.

Mueller's tactics are the classic LEO procedure; pick off the little guys, flip them so they'll turn in a bigger guy, and work your way up the chain.

It will continue to work until he reaches the level were no on actually did anything wrong. How far up that's going to be, remains to be seen.

Be patient. He's getting there.
 

rexlunae

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Mueller's tactics are the classic LEO procedure; pick off the little guys, flip them so they'll turn in a bigger guy, and work your way up the chain.

It will continue to work until he reaches the level were no on actually did anything wrong. How far up that's going to be, remains to be seen.

Be patient. He's getting there.

One thing that interested me is that the thing that Rick Gates lied about during is proffer was that he was talking to Dana Rohrabacher, Republican congressman from California with long-suspected ties to Russia. He literally surrendered his immunity to lie about that, in a context where he couldn't have been charged for what he said otherwise. What's so important that it's worth doing that?

This thing is both sharpening and broadening.
 

Catholic Crusader

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To date there has not been ONE indictment or conviction regarding the fake phony collusion fantasy concocted by the Democrats. This punk loser Muller is getting people for rank crap like lying or tax fraud or other weak stuff.
 

The Barbarian

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To date there has not been ONE indictment or conviction regarding the fake phony collusion fantasy concocted by the Democrats.

Trump's son Donny indicated he was interested in meeting with Russian agents to get dirt on Hillary Clinton. Then they had a meeting. Trump himself publicly admitted he wanted the Russians to release more hacked emails. Mueller's not done with that.

And in this kind of thing, the coverup is usually what takes them down. Trump, being unable to control his mouth, has already admitted firing Comey because he was investigating the collusion issue. But it appears Mueller is still building on that one.

This punk loser Muller is getting people for rank crap like lying or tax fraud or other weak stuff.

Most of the Watergate felons went to prison for obstruction. Al Capone went to prison for tax evasion. It's an old tactic, but a sound one.
 

rexlunae

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To date there has not been ONE indictment or conviction regarding the fake phony collusion fantasy concocted by the Democrats. This punk loser Muller is getting people for rank crap like lying or tax fraud or other weak stuff.

Tell me something. What would it take for you to suspect that Trump might have done something wrong?
 

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White House feeling like they're targets there
With the staffers laying low
Perps indicted almost everywhere
So who'll be the next to go?
Are you ready? Hey, are you lawyered up fine?
Are you waiting for the knock on the door?
Hey, did you hear who they got this time?
Soon they'll be coming for more.


(Trump, Trump, Trump) And another one gets the bust.
(Trump, Trump, Trump) And another one gets the bust.
And another one gone, and another one gone
And he's just warming up.
Hey, he's gonna get more, too
Another one gets the bust.

How do you think this is going to end.
With all the underlings gone?
Who takes the fall when the feds descend
Out there on the White House lawn?
Are you prepared with your alibi?
Who will make a deal next round ?

Out on the Beltway, they fear the call
And what the feds have found
Look out!
 

AnaisNina

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I am new here. I am a Christian. Is this what we do here? Ad hominem attacks on people with differing opinions or do we engage what people say and ask what it does or doesn't have to do with theology? Please tell me this isn't just a mud slinging place?
 
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