"Let Us Make Man In Our Image"

[Jerry Shugart]

Here we see a plurality in the Godhead:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... So God created man in his own image" (Gen1:26,27).​

Here God is spoken of as being a plurality. This is a case of a "compound unity," a concept which is spoken of here:

"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery" (Eph.5:31-32).​

This concept is above the reasoning of our finite minds and that is why Paul calls it a "mystery." Nevertheless, the concept of "compound unity" is found in the Bible and that same concept applies to the Godhead.

The Bible reveals that there is One God in three Divine Persons. That is why we read of the "name" (singular) of God here:

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Mt.28:19).​

Can anyone explain why we see plural pronouns in this verse?:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (Gen1:26).​

Thanks!

 

[jamie]

The Bible reveals that there is One God in three Divine Persons.

Really? Well, we are told it was the holy Spirit who caused Mary to conceive.

Did the Father do anything or was the procreation just between the holy Spirit and Mary?

Also, do trinitarians believe that the Father is not Spirit or do they believe the Father is not holy?

 

[Right Divider]

Really? Well, we are told it was the holy Spirit who caused Mary to conceive.

Did the Father do anything or was the procreation just between the holy Spirit and Mary?

Also, do trinitarians believe that the Father is not Spirit or do they believe the Father is not holy?

You just exude ignorance on this topic.

"Procreate", really??? What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

 

[Zeke]

Here we see a plurality in the Godhead:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness... So God created man in his own image" (Gen1:26,27).​

Here God is spoken of as being a plurality. This is a case of a "compound unity," a concept which is spoken of here:

"For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. This is a great mystery" (Eph.5:31-32).​

This concept is above the reasoning of our finite minds and that is why Paul calls it a "mystery." Nevertheless, the concept of "compound unity" is found in the Bible and that same concept applies to the Godhead.

The Bible reveals that there is One God in three Divine Persons. That is why we read of the "name" (singular) of God here:

"Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit" (Mt.28:19).​

Can anyone explain why we see plural pronouns in this verse?:

"And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness" (Gen1:26).​

Thanks!

Person is a legal term to describe a corporation or none human entity that doesn't really exist except on paper/contracts just like the image on you're ID that allows that legal entity to work, buy and sell etc....You're play acting through a fictional character and don't even realize it.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Person is a legal term to describe a corporation or none human entity that doesn't really exist except on paper...

What planet are you from?

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Really? Well, we are told it was the holy Spirit who caused Mary to conceive.

The existence of the lord Jesus did not begin when He was born of Mary because the Apostle Paul reveals that He was "before all things":

"for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church" (Col.1:16-18).​

Since Paul reveals that the Lord Jesus is " before all things" it is obvious that the Lord Jesus existed before He was born of Mary.

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

Will you please answer that question?

 

[jamie]

Will you please answer that question?

Sure.

 

[keypurr]

The existence of the lord Jesus did not begin when He was born of Mary because the Apostle Paul reveals that He was "before all things":

"for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church" (Col.1:16-18).​

Since Paul reveals that the Lord Jesus is " before all things" it is obvious that the Lord Jesus existed before He was born of Mary.

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

Will you please answer that question?

What was he before he was born?

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[keypurr]

The existence of the lord Jesus did not begin when He was born of Mary because the Apostle Paul reveals that He was "before all things":

"for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church" (Col.1:16-18).​

Since Paul reveals that the Lord Jesus is " before all things" it is obvious that the Lord Jesus existed before He was born of Mary.

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

Will you please answer that question?

Why can't a created being be given the power to create?

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[jamie]

The existence of the lord Jesus did not begin when He was born of Mary because the Apostle Paul reveals that He was "before all things":

The term "Lord Jesus" was not used before the Word became human.

Had there been a Savior before Jesus then his birth would not have been necessary.

 

[keypurr]

The term "Lord Jesus" was not used before the Word became human.

Had there been a Savior before Jesus then his birth would not have been necessary.

That is because Jesus did not exist before he was born.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

Why can't a created being be given the power to create?

"...all things have been created through him"​

According to this the Lord Jesus was in existence when "all things" were created.

That can only mean that He is not a created being.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

The term "Lord Jesus" was not used before the Word became human.

Had there been a Savior before Jesus then his birth would not have been necessary.

You do know who the pronouns "he" and "him" refer to in this passage, don't you?:

"for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church" (Col.1:16-18).​

Since it is said that the Lord Jesus "is before all things" then it is obvious that the Lord Jesus existed before He was born of Mary.

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

 

[jamie]

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

Jerry, do you believe the person who created all things was human when he did so?

According to John, the Word existed in the beginning as God and was with God. However, the word was made flesh by the power of the Most High and was of lower status than the angels until he was resurrected.

Your claim that the Word was Mary's son Jesus when he created all things is absurd.

Totally.

 

[Jerry Shugart]

According to John, the Word existed in the beginning as God and was with God. However, the word was made flesh by the power of the Most High and was of lower status than the angels until he was resurrected.

Let us look at this passage again:

"for in him were all things created, in the heavens and upon the earth, things visible and things invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers; all things have been created through him, and unto him; and he is before all things, and in him all things consist. And he is the head of the body, the church" (Col.1:16-18).​

It is none other than the Lord Jesus, who was raised from the dead, who is the head of the Body, the church:

"Which he wrought in Christ, when he raised him from the dead, and set him at his own right hand in the heavenly places, Far above all principality, and power, and might, and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this world, but also in that which is to come: And hath put all things under his feet, and gave him to be the head over all things to the church, Which is his body, the fulness of him that filleth all in all" (Eph.1:20-23).​

Since Paul reveals that the Lord Jesus is " before all things" it is obvious that the Lord Jesus existed before He was born of Mary.

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

 

[JudgeRightly]

Jerry, do you believe the person who created all things was human when he did so?

According to John, the Word existed in the beginning as God and was with God. However, the word was made flesh by the power of the Most High and was of lower status than the angels until he was resurrected.

Your claim that the Word was Mary's son Jesus when he created all things is absurd.

Totally.

Jesus did not have a physical body at creation.

The problem here is that you assume that Jesus Christ is two people. Nowhere in the Bible does it imply that. In fact, the Bible fairly clearly states that Jesus became flesh. Not "indwelled" flesh, "became" flesh.

This article explains it rather well. http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/jesus-is-fully-human

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[Jerry Shugart]

This article explains it rather well. http://www.desiringgod.org/articles/jesus-is-fully-human

Good article.

Thanks!

 

[jamie]

Besides that, Paul reveals that all created things were created through Him so how it is possible that He is a created being?

So how it is possible that he is a created being?

All humans are created beings. And all except the first two have been created in utero.

Adam, the first man, was not created in utero. I suspect there is an explanation as to why he wasn't.

Why do you deny the humanity of Jesus? If Jesus existed before Mary then why involve Mary, it almost cost her the marriage to Joseph.

After Jesus' death he was born again, this time of the Spirit. He had said those born of the flesh are flesh and those born of Spirit are Spirit.

This is really not that complicated if you just accept the prior humanity of Jesus.

Jesus is before everyone else because he is the firstborn of the dead. Someone said that.

 

[jamie]

Jesus did not have a physical body at creation.

Neither did his mom. Jesus was a product of his parents.

 

[JudgeRightly]

So how it is possible that he is a created being?

Jesus is not a created being.

All humans are created beings. And all except the first two have been created in utero.

Adam, the first man, was not created in utero. I suspect there is an explanation as to why he wasn't.

Yeah, it's that Adam was the first man. He was created from the dust from the ground.

Why do you deny the humanity of Jesus? If Jesus existed before Mary then why involve Mary, it almost cost her the marriage to Joseph.

After Jesus' death he was born again, this time of the Spirit. He had said those born of the flesh are flesh and those born of Spirit are Spirit.

Born again? Try raised from the dead.

This is really not that complicated if you just accept the prior humanity of Jesus.

Does the passage of scripture where it says that the "Word became flesh" mean nothing to you?

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