If Evolution

[6days]

The flood that created the Black Sea covered the highest mountains in the area.

The flood that helped shaped our current earth covered what was then the highest mountains on earth by a depth of over 20' / over 6 meters.


Gen. 7:19

New International Version
They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.

New Living Translation
Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth,

English Standard Version
And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.

 

[The Barbarian]

The flood that helped shaped our current earth covered what was then the highest mountains on earth by a depth of over 20' / over 6 meters.

Actually, it uses "eretz" in the original, which can mean "this nation", "my land", "hereabouts", etc. "Under Heaven" is "far as the eye can see."

You've just added a little to the account to make it more acceptable to you.

If you want to do something for your new beliefs, you might step up and take the challenge that RD ran away from.

You think you're up to that?

 

[Right Divider]

You'll need more than bluff and bluster. Your man-made "wisdom" failed you this time. Next time, learn a little bit before you try to tell us about things you don't understand.

Just keep repeating your worn out bluffs Barbarian. Us grown-ups know your game.

 

[Right Divider]

Actually, it uses "eretz" in the original, which can mean "this nation", "my land", "hereabouts", etc. "Under Heaven" is "far as the eye can see."

You've just added a little to the account to make it more acceptable to you.

If you want to do something for your new beliefs, you might step up and take the challenge that RD ran away from.

You think you're up to that?

Same word used here:

Gen 1:1 (AKJV/PCE)​

(1:1) In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
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I guess that you think that this also does not include the entire planet.

Your "wisdom" is not so wise.

 

[The Barbarian]

Just keep repeating your worn out bluffs Barbarian.

If you ever decide to step up and take the challenge, let us know.

Us grown-ups know your game.

If you think grown-ups argue by calling names and dodging questions, we've found the problem here.

 

[Right Divider]

If you ever decide to step up and take the challenge, let us know.

If you think grown-ups argue by calling names and dodging questions, we've found the problem here.

I've already shown you that your "facts" are not facts at all. And that your pretty pictures with their fake "information" are no better.

You can continue to brag like a junior high-school kid, since that seems to make you feel all superior. :baby:

 

[The Barbarian]

6Days and RD gave up. Anyone else want to try?

 

[Right Divider]

6Days and RD gave up. Anyone else want to try?

The Barbarian is like a little child that likes to claim victory when none was had. :banana:

 

[CherubRam]

Which leaves us with two possibilities:

1.Big floods have happened to a lot of different peoples.
2. There was just one big flood.

:think:

There have been many floods, but only one on a grand scale.

 

[Greg Jennings]

I doubt that selective pressure is the reason why. An all white zebra would be harder for a lion to see.

How? Stripes help animals blend into a wooded or grassy environment. See: tigers, zebras, kudu, etc.

How would being solid white help blend into anything other than snow?

 

[Greg Jennings]

There was a news story in a Arizona news paper around the mid 70's about the little horses being found in the Superstition Mountains. I am not able to find the story.

Well I'm afraid your, or anyone else's, say-so isn't good enough. I need evidence. Not stories

 

[Greg Jennings]

Barbarian continues to bluff; RD tells the truth.


And ONCE AGAIN, you "know" without a doubt about these ancient bones. :french:

ONCE AGAIN, you're a barrel of laughs.

Do you think you're coming off smart here?

You are literally flaunting your own ignorance.


As a side note: thanks. You and your silly remarks are part of what keeps me coming back

 

[Greg Jennings]

The flood that helped shaped our current earth covered what was then the highest mountains on earth by a depth of over 20' / over 6 meters.


Gen. 7:19

New International Version
They rose greatly on the earth, and all the high mountains under the entire heavens were covered.

New Living Translation
Finally, the water covered even the highest mountains on the earth,

English Standard Version
And the waters prevailed so mightily on the earth that all the high mountains under the whole heaven were covered.

Never mind that there isn't enough water to do that :chuckle:

But you know that...

 

[Jonahdog]

Answers Research Journal, which you also think does not exist. It's amazing what happens when we think certain things don't exist first, and then procede!

No, I know it exists. I also know it is not a scientific journal. And you have not provided an appropriate citation anyway.

 

[2003cobra]

The flood story is a great story for spiritual purposes. It teaches persistence, doing the right thing despite adversity.

The first 11 chapters of Genesis are not literal history. The Bible tells us that in the first two chapters, by giving us two literally incompatible creation stories with different orders and methods of creation.

 

[The Barbarian]

Since no creationist has been able to find significant differences between Hyracotherium and Orohippus in the series of transitionals leading to modern horses, we'll move on...

Orohippus:

A bit later, Mesohippus:

It's a bit larger, and although it still has toes, they are somewhat reduced, and the joints of the spine are slightly less flexible.

We'll stop for a moment and see if any creationist can find differences between these two that are greater than we can find within a species living today. If not, we'll go on.

 

[The Barbarian]

While we're waiting...

Young Earth creationist Dr. Kurt Wise (PhD in paleontology) has observed that the horse series along with many others are "very good evidence for evolution."

He's convinced that eventually an alternative explanation will be found, but presently, there is none.

 

[The Barbarian]

Since no creationist has been able to find significant differences between Hyracotherium and Orohippus in the series of transitionals leading to modern horses, we'll move on...

Orohippus:

A bit later, Mesohippus:

It's a bit larger, and although it still has toes, they are somewhat reduced, and the joints of the spine are slightly less flexible.

We'll stop for a moment and see if any creationist can find differences between these two that are greater than we can find within a species living today. If not, we'll go on.

 

[6days]

The flood story is a great story for spiritual purposes. It teaches persistence, doing the right thing despite adversity.

The first 11 chapters of Genesis are not literal history. The Bible tells us that in the first two chapters, by giving us two literally incompatible creation stories with different orders and methods of creation.

That is a wee bit heretical. If the flood is a myth, then the return of Jesus is a myth.
When a person rejects the fou station to the gospel, they undermine every Christian doctrine, and make the cross become meaningless.

 

[6days]

Never mind that there isn't enough water to do that :chuckle:

But you know that...

Don't be so pseudoscientific Greg. You likely believe that Mars was once covered by vast oceans... a planet without any surface water yet you reject the science that shows every bit of Earth has been underwater in the past and is still currently covered by about two-thirds water