I am disgusted!

[Art Deco]

Art, you and Wamba need to take a chill pill and relax, man.

That sounds all too famiilar. The Church has been on ice for the last fifty years. We need less chill and more heat. Whats your problem?

 

[Mr. 5020]

That sounds all too famiilar. The Church has been on ice for the last fifty years. We need less chill and more heat. Whats your problem?

I was mostly joking.

 

[Frank Ernest]

Many prayers were offered on behalf of Terri Schiavo. God refused to save this women allowing the saints to search for answers. The answer is clear we as a nation are cursed by God. God's people are to blame for Terri's death. Our luke warm faith has displeased God.

As to pointing fingers. We (Christians) are primarily to blame. Secondarily, both political parties are responsible for Terri's death by their cowardly inaction. Where do we go from here? The worst is yet to come. The Church has been taken over by gutless cowards and spiritual lightweights. Only Second Chornicles 7:14 will reverse this trend.

I would say God called her home for whatever His reasons. I do not believe we are cursed by God -- not yet anyway. God has much patience and forebearance.

2 Chronicles 7:14 -- Great :idea:! Let's see if it catches on.

 

[Art Deco]

Frank Ernest I do not believe we are cursed by God -- not yet anyway. God has much patience and forebearance.

Frank, Look around you. Look at the culture. 50% of the voters in the last election voted for a Political Party that can be honestly described as anti-God Secular Humanist supporting abortion and homosexual marriage. Read Isaiah chapter 3 and tell me there are no similarities between God's curses and life in America today.

Posted by Frank Ernest:

2 Chronicles 7:14 -- Great :idea:! Let's see if it catches on.

If the Church does not see that God has cursed them for their apostasy and abandonment of the fundamentals of the faith, what would compel the church to consider the message in Second Chronicles 7:14?

 

[Granite]

Whining about the problem doesn't change a thing.

Art, what are you personally doing to reverse the trend?

 

[ChristisKing]

I am disgusted. I am disgusted by the pro life movement. I am disgusted with the Republicans. I am disgusted with our jelly spined Christians who are saying that assisted suicide is alright! I am disgusted with talk show hosts: Hugh Hewit, with Sean Hannity, with Matt Drudge etc. etc. etc.


They hold majority rules and our wicked laws over God's law. I am infuriated. There are not many words to describe my anger.

Terri Schiavo is starving to death and our Republican, jelly spined Christians are saying that Jeb Bush was right not to break the law and take the National Guard and storm the building to give Terri Schiavo nourishment.

Some say that we were keeping her alive by artificial means but all they were doing was giving her food and water, not keeping her alive on an iron lung! And don't you eat? All need to eat.


This country is not going to Hell in a handbasket; it's going to Hell with jet rockets.

Are we living in the same country?

Here is the agenda the liberals want to achieve. They want Senators to filibuster any judicial nominee who will not support this agenda.

Approval of homosexual marriage
Legalizing euthanasia
Banning prayer in school
Banning the public display of the Ten Commandments
Banning the Pledge of Allegiance
Basing our laws on the laws of other nations
Maintaining abortion on demand
Forcing the Boy Scouts and similar organizations (including churches) to place homosexuals in positions of leadership
Complete protection for all kinds of pornography
Creating hate crimes laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong
Denigrating Christianity to a secondary status
Making secularism the only legitimate religion

 

[Art Deco]

Whining about the problem doesn't change a thing.

Art, what are you personally doing to reverse the trend?

One man's whining is another man's persistence. Keeping this issue alive is an obligation owed to Terri Shindler. I can see why you want it swept under the rug...evil is hard to look at for any great lenghth of time. Suck it up tiger...

The Republican Party will never escape the backlash that it justly deserves in the next general election. I don't want to hear anything more about "Compassionate Conservatism", that bromide is dead as a hammer. The howl will go up but not voting for a Republican candidate is like voting for a Democrat...so be it. Wallace was right after all, There's not a dimes worth of difference between a Republican and a Democrat. They both let Terri starve to death without water. America's soul died with Terri Schindler. Remember "Masada."

 

[Granite]

One man's whining is another man's persistence. Keeping this issue alive is an obligation owed to Terri Shindler. I can see why you want it swept under the rug...evil is hard to look at for any great lenghth of time. Suck it up tiger...

The Republican Party will never escape the backlash that it justly deserves in the next general election. I don't want to hear anything more about "Compassionate Conservatism", that bromide is dead as a hammer. The howl will go up but not voting for a Republican candidate is like voting for a Democrat...so be it. Wallace was right after all, There's not a dimes worth of difference between a Republican and a Democrat. They both let Terri starve to death without water. America's soul died with Terri Schindler. Remember "Masada."

So in other words, you are doing nothing personally. Okay. That's what I thought.

I don't want the Schiavo tragedy hushed up, in fact the "good" that's come from it--such as it is--is that people are thinking and talking. Anything to stir the pot is fine by me.

 

[PureX]

Are we living in the same country?

Here is the agenda the liberals want to achieve. They want Senators to filibuster any judicial nominee who will not support this agenda.

Approval of homosexual marriage
Legalizing euthanasia
Banning prayer in school
Banning the public display of the Ten Commandments
Banning the Pledge of Allegiance
Basing our laws on the laws of other nations
Maintaining abortion on demand
Forcing the Boy Scouts and similar organizations (including churches) to place homosexuals in positions of leadership
Complete protection for all kinds of pornography
Creating hate crimes laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong
Denigrating Christianity to a secondary status
Making secularism the only legitimate religion

What a load of crap. You really ought to stop getting your information about what "democrats want" from republican blowhards. Try to be at least a little bit honest, ok?

 

[ChristisKing]

What a load of crap. You really ought to stop getting your information about what "democrats want" from republican blowhards. Try to be at least a little bit honest, ok?

C'mon, at least be honest. This is exactly what the liberals want, don't run and hide when it is displayed publicly.

 

[Zakath]

CIK,

From where I sit, your list is a bit outdated since about half the "agenda items" have already been accomplished and are merely in maintenance mode at present.

The fundy religious right will effectively marginalize Christianity and denigrate it to secondary status if left to their own devices. You don't need liberals to handle that for you...

 

[ChristisKing]

The stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

The stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

CIK,

From where I sit, your list is a bit outdated since about half the "agenda items" have already been accomplished and are merely in maintenance mode at present.

The fundy religious right will effectively marginalize Christianity and denigrate it to secondary status if left to their own devices. You don't need liberals to handle that for you...

Well we will keep fighting and lets wait and see who wins, my vote is on Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God....He always seems to win.

DAN 2:35 ... and the stone that smote the image became a great mountain, and filled the whole earth.

 

[Zakath]

Well we will keep fighting and lets wait and see who wins, my vote is on Jesus Christ and the Kingdom of God....He always seems to win.

Only in the old stories in your religious text.

From here in the 21st Century, I can look back on what we know about human history of the last 4,000 years and it doesn't seem that way to me. It appears that your religious influene ebbs and flows, just like any other human philosophy. :think:

 

[Granite]

Christianity has never had a problem shooting itself in the foot. That fewer and fewer people take it seriously anymore is the fault of Christianity.

 

[Wamba]

Are we living in the same country?

Here is the agenda the liberals want to achieve. They want Senators to filibuster any judicial nominee who will not support this agenda.

Approval of homosexual marriage
Legalizing euthanasia
Banning prayer in school
Banning the public display of the Ten Commandments
Banning the Pledge of Allegiance
Basing our laws on the laws of other nations
Maintaining abortion on demand
Forcing the Boy Scouts and similar organizations (including churches) to place homosexuals in positions of leadership
Complete protection for all kinds of pornography
Creating hate crimes laws to punish those who believe homosexuality is wrong
Denigrating Christianity to a secondary status
Making secularism the only legitimate religion

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm just as disgusted with Democrats, but the "Reblican Right" should not be supporting suicide and living wills or written directives. Those are just fancy terms for suicide. The Right Wing should know better. The Christians such as James Dobson should know better.

Matt. 15:14 ...if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

 

[Granite]

Both parties are fundamentally the same and have been this way for a while.

 

[Caledvwlch]

Yeah, I totally agree. I'm just as disgusted with Democrats, but the "Reblican Right" should not be supporting suicide and living wills or written directives. Those are just fancy terms for suicide. The Right Wing should know better. The Christians such as James Dobson should know better.

Matt. 15:14 ...if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

So if the Right Wing was really sticking to their guns, would we be better off? Personally I don't think there is any situation when it is OK for congress or the president to circumvent the constitution. Whether it's for a good cause or not, it's still tyranny, and sets a precedent of tyranny. If Christianity was in charge, would things be better?

 

[Granite]

Look at the track record.

Puritans: hanged, crushed, and ostracized their enemies

Women's temperance: gave us Prohibition

Southern Protestants: opposed emancipation, burned books, burned LPs, burned crosses

:think:

 

[Caledvwlch]

Look at the track record.

Puritans: hanged, crushed, and ostracized their enemies

Women's temperance: gave us Prohibition

Southern Protestants: opposed emancipation, burned books, burned LPs, burned crosses

:think:

Not fair Granite! You already knew where I was going with this one! :sheep:

 

[JoyfulRook]

Look at the track record.

Puritans: hanged, crushed, and ostracized their enemies

Can you give me a link. As far as I know and have learned that is a Lie.

Southern Protestants: opposed emancipation, burned books, burned LPs, burned crosses

:think:

You are talking about the KKK.