ECT Grace is unconditional but not universal

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PneumaPsucheSoma

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According to PPS, words don't mean what they say and we cannot believe what saith the scripture until we run it through PPS's final authority, which is a language he neither reads nor speaks! PPS is just another religious, but lost wannabe scholar with no all scripture to throughly furnish him (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV).

It's the inverse, schismatic non-heir. Words mean exactly what they say, not what you infer them to mean and say.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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According to PPS, words don't mean what they say and we cannot believe what saith the scripture until we run it through PPS's final authority, which is a language he neither reads nor speaks! PPS is just another religious, but lost wannabe scholar with no all scripture to throughly furnish him (2 Timothy 3:16-17 KJV).

The anarthrous nouns in scripture are the final authority. Not you (or your deluded peers) OR me. It's simple. You have departed from the simplicity that is in Christ for the false complexity of what appears to be English simplicity.
 

heir

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It's the inverse, schismatic non-heir. Words mean exactly what they say, not what you infer them to mean and say.
There is nothing in your posts that is of use in the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. I'm done with your insults, too. I have better things to do with God's time.
 

PneumaPsucheSoma

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There is nothing in your posts that is of use in the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. I'm done with your insults, too.

You're not a saint or doing the work of ministry or the body of Christ, so you wouldn't know. They weren't insults, they were fact. You are a rank heretic, just like your peers.

You change the basic nouns of scripture into another noun form or into verbs to suit your 19th-century heresies, and you constantly condescend to actual Believers.
 

Nang

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Why not show us all where this "covenant of grace" is that you have been talking about for years on TOL?

The Covenant of Grace was first revealed to Eve in Genesis 3:15 when a Seed was promised who would crush Satan. All of the Covenant promises to the OT saints, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, etc and al the NT saints is confirmed, revealed, was performed, and taught in the Epistle to the Hebrews . . Which Scriptures you MADists refuse to read and attempt to take away from others edification.

Your loss . . .
 

Sonnet

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You apparently have understanding what you are reading issues...

http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?117063-Calvinists-Dilemma&p=4667384&viewfull=1#post4667384
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-for-all-men&p=4681668&viewfull=1#post4681668
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-for-all-men&p=4681856&viewfull=1#post4681856
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-for-all-men&p=4681869&viewfull=1#post4681869
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-for-all-men&p=4682750&viewfull=1#post4682750
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...-for-all-men&p=4683086&viewfull=1#post4683086
http://theologyonline.com/showthrea...ed-Atonement&p=4683321&viewfull=1#post4683321

https://goo.gl/A67oGc
http://goo.gl/sLUZGG

Tolle lege.

Continuing to simply repeat your same statement time and again does not change the plain fact that you are terribly mistaken. If you cannot digest my own posts on the matter at least interact with the substance of those last two links provided if you want to have a substantive discussion about the topic. Otherwise, I would appreciate it if you resist attempts to bait me. I had folks like you in mind when I wrote this:

http://theologyonline.com/entry.php?3019-Arguments-Require-More-Than-Assertions

:AMR:

AMR

Right - last time you asked me to read a whole lot of material and I responded you didn't reply.

(http://theologyonline.com/showthread.php?117559-Refuting-Limited-Atonement/page3) - scroll down...

So your:

Continuing to simply repeat your same statement time and again does not change the plain fact that you are terribly mistaken. If you cannot digest my own posts on the matter at least interact with the substance of those last two links provided if you want to have a substantive discussion about the topic.

falls flat and would appear to be directed at yourself.
 

Sonnet

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Paul says - 'this is what we preach' - not 'this what we preach to believers.'

The Calvinist says - 'this what we preach...to believers.'

Who would risk preaching a different Gospel after reading Galatians 1:8-9? It would be obviously be wise to keep the Gospel for believers and unbelievers the same.

As we have already said, so now I say again: If anybody is preaching to you (believers) a gospel other than what you accepted (when they were unbelievers), let them be under God’s curse!

And what could be more fundamental than the extent of Christ's death and resurrection? The Calvinist tells unbelievers that it was not necessarily for THEM. Astonishing.

A different gospel.
 

Sonnet

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The Covenant of Grace was first revealed to Eve in Genesis 3:15 when a Seed was promised who would crush Satan. All of the Covenant promises to the OT saints, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, etc and al the NT saints is confirmed, revealed, was performed, and taught in the Epistle to the Hebrews . . Which Scriptures you MADists refuse to read and attempt to take away from others edification.

Your loss . . .

Did Paul preach Christ's resurrection to unbelievers?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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No, you don't; so go blow it out your scripture-perverting ignorant piehole, heretical weaker vessel.

You have no idea what simplicty OR the actual Gospel is. The nouns don't mean what you make them to mean as verbs or the wrong noun form.

You got banned for good reason. Are you anti-female or what? You just keep getting worse as time goes by.
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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The Covenant of Grace was first revealed to Eve in Genesis 3:15 when a Seed was promised who would crush Satan. All of the Covenant promises to the OT saints, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, etc and al the NT saints is confirmed, revealed, was performed, and taught in the Epistle to the Hebrews . . Which Scriptures you MADists refuse to read and attempt to take away from others edification.

Your loss . . .

I'm a card carrying "Maddest" and I read and study the entire Old and New Testament. So, there goes your generalization Nang. It shows you can be wrong. The problem is, you're just about completely wrong about everything you post. It would be best for you to do more reading and studying and less time bellyaching and being grumpy. You're the grouchiest Calvinist I've ever encountered. Not a good advertisement for Calvinism.
 

heir

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The Covenant of Grace was first revealed to Eve in Genesis 3:15 when a Seed was promised who would crush Satan. All of the Covenant promises to the OT saints, such as Noah, Abraham, Moses, David, etc and al the NT saints is confirmed, revealed, was performed, and taught in the Epistle to the Hebrews . . Which Scriptures you MADists refuse to read and attempt to take away from others edification.

Your loss . . .
It doesn't say "covenant of grace". You made that term up. Where and what is the good news of Christ to you?
 

Grosnick Marowbe

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There is nothing in your posts that is of use in the perfecting of the saints, for the work of the ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ. I'm done with your insults, too. I have better things to do with God's time.

Amen. PPS just has a bag full of words, phrases, and comments that practically nobody can decipher. He brings attention to himself by showing off his supposed higher education. Grant it, he's a bit of a "Wordsmith" however, he uses that as a weapon against the average posters around TOL. He's arrogant, demeaning and self-centered.
 

Sonnet

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You consider pithy one-liners as being responsive? You are quite taken by yourself, I see. Sigh.

AMR

I made a response and you just left the debate and then came back criticizing me for not interacting. Would be better to stick to actually attempting to refute the charge.

Just one scripture that explicitly teaches limited atonement would help...but you can't because there aren't any.
 
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